Re: How does the Skylake fix work?

From	"Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.intel, alt.electronics
Subject	Re: How does the Skylake fix work?
Date	2016-01-21 21:42 +0000
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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:30:16 -0000, Ian Field <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
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> "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:op.yblqx8xb86ebyl@red.lan...
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:33:31 -0000, Ian Field
>> <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:op.ybj5oyrk86ebyl@red.lan...
>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 21:55:50 -0000, Ian Field
>>>> <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:op.ya8fvjcf86ebyl@red.lan...
>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:37:56 -0000, Trent <none@dev.null.pissof>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:05:47 -0000 "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> Message id: <op.ya6hbxoa86ebyl@red.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:01:40 -0000, Trent <none@dev.null.pissof>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:03:30 -0000 "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> Message id: <op.ya6ef4kx86ebyl@red.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just out of interest, how does a hardware bug in a CPU get fixed
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> software BIOS update?  Isn't the bug a physical misconnection in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> circuits?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Microcode updates.
>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/microcode
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So the bug was in the firmware of the CPU, not the physical
>>>>>>>> circuitry?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never heard of or done a CPU firmware update.  Are they
>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>> with motherboard BIOS updates?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, the manufacturer of the MB releases a BIOS update to correct the
>>>>>>> issue. For this particular errata, Intel has given the MB
>>>>>>> manufacturers
>>>>>>> the information needed to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've read in MB BIOS update instructions that it fixes X to do with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> CPU, but I always assumed that was a motherboard fault where it didn't
>>>>>> work with new types of CPU etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that another one you broke on purpose?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a Skylake.  My i5 3570K is working fine.  Skylake is only a
>>>> third faster, no point in upgrading.
>>>
>>> So its just advance planning how to break it when you do get one.
>>
>> I was just interested how a hardware fault could be fixed by software.
>> See if I burst my car tyre, can I just upload a fix to my car's on board
>> computer?
>
> You just download a certain episode of Futurama and it turns into a
> hovercar.

Hovervans are more versatile.

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How does the Skylake fix work? "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-13 12:03 +0000
  Re: How does the Skylake fix work? Trent <none@dev.null.pissof> - 2016-01-13 08:01 -0500
    Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-13 13:05 +0000
      Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "The Brain" <the brain@thebrain.com> - 2016-01-13 19:57 +0000
        Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-01-14 09:51 -0800
        Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-18 21:30 +0000
          Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-18 21:33 +0000
            Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-18 21:41 +0000
            Re: "Dumb Guy", The Rectum's Old Whore! LOL The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2016-01-18 22:54 +0100
              Re: "Dumb Guy", The Rectum's Old Whore! LOL "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-18 22:07 +0000
      Re: How does the Skylake fix work? Trent <none@dev.null.pissof> - 2016-01-14 06:37 -0500
        Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-14 14:29 +0000
          Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-20 21:55 +0000
            Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-20 22:20 +0000
              Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-21 18:33 +0000
                Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-21 18:57 +0000
                Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-21 21:30 +0000
                Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-01-21 21:42 +0000
  Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-21 22:17 +0000
    Re: How does the Skylake fix work? "Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com> - 2016-02-18 19:57 +0000

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