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Re: How many x86 instructions?

Date 2014-02-21 00:55 -0500
From Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.intel, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, alt.windows7.general
Subject Re: How many x86 instructions?
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On 20/02/2014 11:21 PM, Paul wrote:
> At one time, a compiler would issue instructions
> from about 30% of the instruction set. It would mean
> a compiled program would never emit the other 70% of
> them. But a person writing assembler code, would
> have access to all of them, at least, as long as
> the mnemonic existed in the assembler.

I think the original idea of the x86's large instruction count was to 
make an assembly language as full-featured as a high-level language. x86 
even had string-handling instructions!

I remember I designed an early version of the CPUID program that ran 
under DOS. The whole executable including its *.exe headers was 
something like 40 bytes! Got it down to under 20 bytes when I converted 
it to *.com (which had no headers)! Most of the space was used to store 
strings, like "This processor is a:" followed by generated strings like 
386SX or 486DX, etc. :)

You could make some really tiny assembler programs on x86. Of course, 
compiled programs ignored most of these useful high-level instructions 
and stuck with simple instructions to do everything.

	Yousuf Khan

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