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God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-20 13:50 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> - 2024-09-22 21:25 -0600
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 23:22 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 11:53 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-09-26 17:00 +0000
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-09-27 09:14 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-09-27 07:27 -0700
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 09:38 -0700
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 19:50 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-09-28 09:13 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-09-27 23:44 +0000
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-09-28 09:18 +0100
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-09-28 09:50 -0700
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-09-29 09:33 +0100
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-09-29 19:29 -0700
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-09-30 08:33 +0100
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-09-30 07:56 -0700
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 10:51 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-28 23:05 +0000
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 10:52 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-09-29 19:30 -0700
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:54 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-09-30 19:40 +0000
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 11:06 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-10-02 10:20 +0000
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-10-02 07:36 -0700
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 10:35 -0700
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 14:47 -0400
Re: God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 13:30 -0700
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| From | Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-20 13:50 -0400 |
| Subject | God of War: Rakgnarok for PC requires PSN account |
| Message-ID | <sucrejp4g9f4sr496njb11mm4ii56pf47d@4ax.com> |
Well, I'm sure that will make PC gamers happy. There's nothing they like more than being forced to sign up for yet another extraneous service... especially for a stand-along single-player game. I don't even have to go to the store page to guess that the game is probably (and rightfully, IMHO) being review-bombed for this requirement. At least Sony was more upfront with this requirement than it was with "Helldivers 2", making it clear from the start that if you wanted "Ragnarok" you were going to have to get a PSN account. Still, this minimal extra transparency doesn't make the requirement any more welcome. Especially since PSN isn't available in all regions (which means that people in some countries won't be able to play the game at all), and -at least in some areas- creating a PSN account either requires sharing your cell-phone number with Sony, or showing them government ID to prove your identity. And all this for "God of War: Ragnarok"? It was an okay game, but I never saw it as a stand-out game. It wasn't one of those 'must have' titles. "Helldivers 2" received a lot more hype, and even with that game Sony had to back down on the PSN requirement (that requirement also arguably made more sense, since it was an online game). Maybe this sort of crap is what Playstation CEO Hideaki Nishino meant when he said PCs were "too difficult to set up." If only there was something he could have done about that...
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| From | PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-22 21:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <5on1fj55glbfrr5n75iok9ou23pglpvj6m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #47781 |
Yep! And I almost immediately requested a refund. I really liked the last one but I do not remember having to register a Playstation account for the PC version. -pw
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| From | Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-24 23:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4c07fjl5u9jnfejthlr3hjj8nnh3tdnl3i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #47802 |
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 21:25:17 -0600, PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote: >Yep! And I almost immediately requested a refund. I really liked the >last one but I do not remember having to register a Playstation >account for the PC version. Nope, the fourth "God of War" game did not require a PSN account. Download it on Steam and immediately start playing; that was all that was necessary. "Ragnarok" immediately made it onto my "no play" list because of this requirement. But since I found "Ragnarok" to be the inferior of the two games on the Playstation, I'm not really that upset that I won't be playing it on PC. "Ragnarok" lacked the compelling story and the pacing was just awful. It just went on and on and on.
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| From | Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-26 11:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rg0bfjt5cakeddlt7qnsmj1bkmu6fadhja@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #47823 |
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 23:22:35 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 21:25:17 -0600, PW ><iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote: > >>Yep! And I almost immediately requested a refund. I really liked the >>last one but I do not remember having to register a Playstation >>account for the PC version. > >Nope, the fourth "God of War" game did not require a PSN account. >Download it on Steam and immediately start playing; that was all that >was necessary. > >"Ragnarok" immediately made it onto my "no play" list because of this >requirement. > >But since I found "Ragnarok" to be the inferior of the two games on >the Playstation, I'm not really that upset that I won't be playing it >on PC. "Ragnarok" lacked the compelling story and the pacing was just >awful. It just went on and on and on. > Side note: there was a brief-lived mod on Nexus that allowed you to play the game without using PSN. It apparently replaced all the PSN dynamic library files and just launched the game directly, bypassing that nonsense entirely. Unfortunately, it was up for less than a day before Nexus removed it. Partly out of fear from Sony, as it could have been seen as a way to bypass 'copy protection', and partly -as I understand it- because it included DLLs from Microsoft's networking stack, which would have opened Nexus up to copyright violation claims. But it just shows how unnecessary the whole PSN requirement is, and how easy it would be for Sony to strip it out. Hopefully the modder who did the hard work will modify their patch in a way that will make it more acceptable for Nexus to host. I still wouldn't rush out to buy GOW:Ragnarok (I just don't think the game is that good) but if I did get my hands on a copy -through a HumbleChoice bundle, or whatever- I'd at least be able to play it without jumping through Sony's ridiculous hoops.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2024-09-26 17:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvfb4fa.f0p0.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #47781 |
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 17:50 this Friday (GMT): > > Well, I'm sure that will make PC gamers happy. There's nothing they > like more than being forced to sign up for yet another extraneous > service... especially for a stand-along single-player game. I don't > even have to go to the store page to guess that the game is probably > (and rightfully, IMHO) being review-bombed for this requirement. > > At least Sony was more upfront with this requirement than it was with > "Helldivers 2", making it clear from the start that if you wanted > "Ragnarok" you were going to have to get a PSN account. Still, this > minimal extra transparency doesn't make the requirement any more > welcome. > > Especially since PSN isn't available in all regions (which means that > people in some countries won't be able to play the game at all), and > -at least in some areas- creating a PSN account either requires > sharing your cell-phone number with Sony, or showing them government > ID to prove your identity. > > And all this for "God of War: Ragnarok"? It was an okay game, but I > never saw it as a stand-out game. It wasn't one of those 'must have' > titles. "Helldivers 2" received a lot more hype, and even with that > game Sony had to back down on the PSN requirement (that requirement > also arguably made more sense, since it was an online game). > > Maybe this sort of crap is what Playstation CEO Hideaki Nishino meant > when he said PCs were "too difficult to set up." If only there was > something he could have done about that... Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-27 09:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pobdfjt254tnj6of2ppi616peura020grq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #47854 |
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. I actually had to think for a minute or so to see if I forgot any. That tells me that is definitely enough!
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2024-09-27 07:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vd6fcq$oqgj$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #47865 |
On 9/27/2024 6:14 AM, Mike S. wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 > <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: > >> Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. > > Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. > > I actually had to think for a minute or so to see if I forgot any. > That tells me that is definitely enough! I have just Steam and GOG. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.
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| From | Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-27 09:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <364b92675d2cb0795cb93c6a80e65319dd46d247@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #47865 |
On 9/27/2024 6:14 AM, Mike S. wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>> Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me.
>
> Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet.
I have those plus PSN, Nintendo, Epic, Amazon*, Apple, Google*,
Microsoft and Roblox. I've probably got some others that I haven't used
in so long I don't remember.
*I haven't had an android for at least 6 years, so haven't used my
google account for games in that time, and there's Twitch which moved
all their games to Amazon. Battlenet I hadn't logged on to since within
6 months of D3 and only did it for D4 on gamepass early this month, and
will probably never do so again.
I have a Warframe account, but that's for the game, not a client
fortunately, I probably have a ton of those, oh yeah Homecoming for City
of Heroes.
You could possibly count Youtube & Netflix since they both have games
now, but I've not actually tried any of those, unless you count the Puss
in Boots choose your own story video on Netflix.
Yes it's way, way too many.
--
-Justisaur
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| From | Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-27 19:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5vgefj5ukob8u6gpq6eb8jni911465g6qs@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #47868 |
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:38:15 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote: >On 9/27/2024 6:14 AM, Mike S. wrote: >> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 >> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >> >>> Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. >> >> Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. > >I have those plus PSN, Nintendo, Epic, Amazon*, Apple, Google*, >Microsoft and Roblox. I've probably got some others that I haven't used >in so long I don't remember. > >*I haven't had an android for at least 6 years, so haven't used my >google account for games in that time, and there's Twitch which moved >all their games to Amazon. Battlenet I hadn't logged on to since within >6 months of D3 and only did it for D4 on gamepass early this month, and >will probably never do so again. > >I have a Warframe account, but that's for the game, not a client >fortunately, I probably have a ton of those, oh yeah Homecoming for City >of Heroes. > >You could possibly count Youtube & Netflix since they both have games >now, but I've not actually tried any of those, unless you count the Puss >in Boots choose your own story video on Netflix. > >Yes it's way, way too many. Yeah. I've accumulated a number as well (including those mentioned above EA, Rockstar, UPlay, IndieGo, etc.) It's really annoying. But it's an aggregate formed over decades of video-game play. I really only _buy_ from Steam and GOG, with a bit of side-hustles from Amazon and HumbleBundle. I know Epic/EA/etc. think that by forcing their clients and accounts on me, they'll get me to start buying direct from them, but it ain't happening. They're just annoying middleware.
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| From | Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-28 09:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <o60gfjp1hqpnh3olnsd9v0r5ov4t2346cj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #47868 |
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:38:15 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote: >I have those plus PSN, Nintendo, Epic, Amazon*, Apple, Google*, >Microsoft and Roblox. I've probably got some others that I haven't used >in so long I don't remember. Son of a bitch I forgot Epic.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2024-09-27 23:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvfdqk2.1skt.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #47865 |
Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 13:14 this Friday (GMT): > On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 ><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: > >>Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. > > Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. > > I actually had to think for a minute or so to see if I forgot any. > That tells me that is definitely enough! I have steam and nintendo. maybe some misc webgame accounts too? -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | JAB <noway@nochance.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-28 09:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vd8e4e$15ljv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #47865 |
On 27/09/2024 14:14, Mike S. wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 > <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: > >> Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. > > Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. > > I actually had to think for a minute or so to see if I forgot any. > That tells me that is definitely enough! Steam and GoG also although it's possible that I do have some other accounts that I've forgotten about. The last game I bought that had its own client was I think Battlefield 1 as it was dirt cheap on Steam. The good thing was it meant I could finally get to use the refund option! Basically if a game isn't on Steam or GoG I just won't get it even as a freebie.
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2024-09-28 09:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vd9c57$1b5kh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #47881 |
On 9/28/2024 1:18 AM, JAB wrote: > On 27/09/2024 14:14, Mike S. wrote: >> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 >> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >> >>> Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. >> >> Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. >> >> I actually had to think for a minute or so to see if I forgot any. >> That tells me that is definitely enough! > > Steam and GoG also although it's possible that I do have some other > accounts that I've forgotten about. The last game I bought that had its > own client was I think Battlefield 1 as it was dirt cheap on Steam. The > good thing was it meant I could finally get to use the refund option! > > Basically if a game isn't on Steam or GoG I just won't get it even as a > freebie. "The Amazon Effect". Getting spoiled by one-stop shopping. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.
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| From | JAB <noway@nochance.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-29 09:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vdb3c9$1malm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #47894 |
On 28/09/2024 17:50, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> Steam and GoG also although it's possible that I do have some other >> accounts that I've forgotten about. The last game I bought that had >> its own client was I think Battlefield 1 as it was dirt cheap on >> Steam. The good thing was it meant I could finally get to use the >> refund option! >> >> Basically if a game isn't on Steam or GoG I just won't get it even as >> a freebie. > > "The Amazon Effect". Getting spoiled by one-stop shopping. That's definitely a part of it. The nice thing about Amazon is they are probably going to have what you want at decent price and you know up front if anything goes wrong it's fairly hassle free. Saying that I do try and avoid them if I can so for books/CDs/DVDs I go to World of Books and for a lot of other stuff I use a shop called Argos*. That in many ways is a relic of the old days when someone took the idea of buying things from a catalogue at home and said maybe we can have a physical store with the twist that all the goods are stored in a warehouse which is part of the store. So walk in, place your order and give it to a cashier. Wait maybe five minutes and hey presto you have your item. Of course it has moved with the times so now they have an online presence and in-shop it's all touch screen terminals for placing your order - so no longer a source of free pens. *The catalogue has basically become iconic in the UK and for those of the right age is know as the laminated books of dreams. https://retromash.com/argos/
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2024-09-29 19:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vdd2e6$22uhp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #47901 |
On 9/29/2024 1:33 AM, JAB wrote: > On 28/09/2024 17:50, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>> Steam and GoG also although it's possible that I do have some other >>> accounts that I've forgotten about. The last game I bought that had >>> its own client was I think Battlefield 1 as it was dirt cheap on >>> Steam. The good thing was it meant I could finally get to use the >>> refund option! >>> >>> Basically if a game isn't on Steam or GoG I just won't get it even as >>> a freebie. >> >> "The Amazon Effect". Getting spoiled by one-stop shopping. > > That's definitely a part of it. The nice thing about Amazon is they are > probably going to have what you want at decent price and you know up > front if anything goes wrong it's fairly hassle free. > > Saying that I do try and avoid them if I can so for books/CDs/DVDs Understandable but not really an option in the US. The last remaining book seller competition to Amazon here is Barnes & Noble and they are a shadow of what they used to be. They were also the only brick-n-mortar alternative for CDs/DVDs/BRs but I don't even know if they stock those anymore. Walmart and to other stores that used to sell optical discs have all stopped because of streaming, though that's not really Amazon's doing. All the rights holding studios are responsible for the destruction of the disc market, trying to kill the at home viewing on disc for streaming by preventing consumers from actually owning a copy. Even RedBox is kaput, folded up and went bankrupt shortly after Netflix shut down their disc by mail rental arm. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.
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| From | JAB <noway@nochance.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-30 08:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vddk96$251o3$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #47916 |
On 30/09/2024 03:29, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > On 9/29/2024 1:33 AM, JAB wrote: >> On 28/09/2024 17:50, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>>> Steam and GoG also although it's possible that I do have some other >>>> accounts that I've forgotten about. The last game I bought that had >>>> its own client was I think Battlefield 1 as it was dirt cheap on >>>> Steam. The good thing was it meant I could finally get to use the >>>> refund option! >>>> >>>> Basically if a game isn't on Steam or GoG I just won't get it even >>>> as a freebie. >>> >>> "The Amazon Effect". Getting spoiled by one-stop shopping. >> >> That's definitely a part of it. The nice thing about Amazon is they >> are probably going to have what you want at decent price and you know >> up front if anything goes wrong it's fairly hassle free. >> >> Saying that I do try and avoid them if I can so for books/CDs/DVDs > > Understandable but not really an option in the US. The last remaining > book seller competition to Amazon here is Barnes & Noble and they are a > shadow of what they used to be. They were also the only brick-n-mortar > alternative for CDs/DVDs/BRs but I don't even know if they stock those > anymore. Walmart and to other stores that used to sell optical discs > have all stopped because of streaming, though that's not really Amazon's > doing. All the rights holding studios are responsible for the > destruction of the disc market, trying to kill the at home viewing on > disc for streaming by preventing consumers from actually owning a copy. > Even RedBox is kaput, folded up and went bankrupt shortly after Netflix > shut down their disc by mail rental arm. > World of Books is an online operation only (based not that far from were I live strangely enough) which deals mostly in second hand books/CDs/DVDs. For books it's really good value as you can get a hardback in very good condition for probably an average of £5 if that. I think they do have an operation in the US.
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2024-09-30 07:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vdee7a$29bb7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #47925 |
On 9/30/2024 12:33 AM, JAB wrote: > On 30/09/2024 03:29, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> On 9/29/2024 1:33 AM, JAB wrote: >>> On 28/09/2024 17:50, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>>>> Steam and GoG also although it's possible that I do have some other >>>>> accounts that I've forgotten about. The last game I bought that had >>>>> its own client was I think Battlefield 1 as it was dirt cheap on >>>>> Steam. The good thing was it meant I could finally get to use the >>>>> refund option! >>>>> >>>>> Basically if a game isn't on Steam or GoG I just won't get it even >>>>> as a freebie. >>>> >>>> "The Amazon Effect". Getting spoiled by one-stop shopping. >>> >>> That's definitely a part of it. The nice thing about Amazon is they >>> are probably going to have what you want at decent price and you know >>> up front if anything goes wrong it's fairly hassle free. >>> >>> Saying that I do try and avoid them if I can so for books/CDs/DVDs >> >> Understandable but not really an option in the US. The last remaining >> book seller competition to Amazon here is Barnes & Noble and they are >> a shadow of what they used to be. They were also the only brick-n- >> mortar alternative for CDs/DVDs/BRs but I don't even know if they >> stock those anymore. Walmart and to other stores that used to sell >> optical discs have all stopped because of streaming, though that's not >> really Amazon's doing. All the rights holding studios are responsible >> for the destruction of the disc market, trying to kill the at home >> viewing on disc for streaming by preventing consumers from actually >> owning a copy. Even RedBox is kaput, folded up and went bankrupt >> shortly after Netflix shut down their disc by mail rental arm. >> > > World of Books is an online operation only (based not that far from were > I live strangely enough) which deals mostly in second hand books/CDs/ > DVDs. For books it's really good value as you can get a hardback in very > good condition for probably an average of £5 if that. > > I think they do have an operation in the US. For me personally the "used" part is the killer. I want NEW, as in newly written books, newly released movies and shows. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.
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| From | Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-29 10:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <b2qifj1gndbc6fj9niteg9pp39dgu9j156@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #47894 |
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 09:50:49 -0700, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >On 9/28/2024 1:18 AM, JAB wrote: >> On 27/09/2024 14:14, Mike S. wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 >>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>> >>>> Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. >>> >>> Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. >>> >>> I actually had to think for a minute or so to see if I forgot any. >>> That tells me that is definitely enough! >> >> Steam and GoG also although it's possible that I do have some other >> accounts that I've forgotten about. The last game I bought that had its >> own client was I think Battlefield 1 as it was dirt cheap on Steam. The >> good thing was it meant I could finally get to use the refund option! >> >> Basically if a game isn't on Steam or GoG I just won't get it even as a >> freebie. > >"The Amazon Effect". Getting spoiled by one-stop shopping. It's why companies are so desperate to get you to sign up for their services that they'll toss oodles of free stuff at you just so you make an account. Because it's a provable fact that once you get people over that first hurdle, they are magnitudes more likely to buy from you. One-click shopping is incredibly difficult to resist. That's why if you really want to save money, you need to close those accounts (something companies make incredibly difficult, natch) or make it so you can no longer access it (change the password to something random and don't write it down, then change the recovery password to something you can't access). Human nature being what it is, you're far less likely to go through the bother of re-opening a new account than just deciding to do without.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2024-09-28 23:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vda23n$1d23v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #47865 |
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:14:32 -0400, Mike S. wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 > <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: > >>Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. > > Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. > > I actually had to think for a minute or so to see if I forgot any. > That tells me that is definitely enough! I think I have Epic(?), whatever was needed for the Just Cause series. Now I'm Linux-only, and just use Steam. Haven't found it to be a hindrance yet, latest purchases were _Tiny Tina's Wonderland_ and _Fort Solis_. Not done with _Tiny Tina's Wonderland_ yet, looking forward to _Fort Solis_ based on the discussion in this very 'froup. Thank you all (esp. Spalls!) for your continued discussion. -- -Scott System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.11.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "It said "Insert disk #3", but only two will fit!"
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| From | Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-29 10:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4cqifjtpmt189bisku957h7kmkiav086qk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #47898 |
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:05:28 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:14:32 -0400, Mike S. wrote: > >> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 >> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >> >>>Creating new accounts for a game is an instant turnoff for me. >> >> Yeah, me too. I have Steam, GOG, Uplay, EA and BattleNet. >> >> I actually had to think for a minute or so to see if I forgot any. >> That tells me that is definitely enough! > >I think I have Epic(?), whatever was needed for the Just Cause series. > >Now I'm Linux-only, and just use Steam. Haven't found it to be a >hindrance yet, latest purchases were _Tiny Tina's Wonderland_ >and _Fort Solis_. > >Not done with _Tiny Tina's Wonderland_ yet, looking forward to >_Fort Solis_ based on the discussion in this very 'froup. > >Thank you all (esp. Spalls!) for your continued discussion. Heheh, don't take it personally. I'd continue the discussion even if there was nobody here (as many people here will probably attest ;-)
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