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  Weekend Garage Sale Score IUnknown <stevementzer@gmail.com> - 2011-10-17 07:05 -0700
    Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2011-10-17 10:34 -0400
      Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score PZ <skierpaul@yahoo.com> - 2011-10-17 10:44 -0700
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2011-10-17 20:37 -0400
    Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score kynrek <kynrek@gmail.com> - 2011-10-17 10:30 -0700
    Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Kevin Dady <kevin@hackaday.com> - 2011-10-17 15:15 -0700
      Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Mike Maginnis <mmaginnis@gmail.com> - 2011-10-18 09:18 -0600
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2011-10-18 15:20 -0400
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Delfs <eeastman@gmail.com> - 2011-10-19 04:31 -0700
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Egan Ford <datajerk@gmail.com> - 2011-10-19 07:57 -0700
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score joltenjoe <joltenjoe@gmail.com> - 2011-10-20 23:45 -0700
    Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2011-10-18 08:02 -0700
      Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score IUnknown <stevementzer@gmail.com> - 2011-10-18 08:24 -0700
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2011-10-18 08:35 -0700
          Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score dog_cow@macgui.com (D Finnigan) - 2011-10-18 15:52 +0000
      Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Egan Ford <datajerk@gmail.com> - 2011-10-19 08:00 -0700
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2011-10-19 14:15 -0400
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2011-10-19 13:01 -0700
        Re: Weekend Garage Sale Score Kevin Dady <kevin@hackaday.com> - 2011-10-19 21:57 -0700

#3053 — Weekend Garage Sale Score

My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
occasionally.

I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.

So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
there is some apple stuff over here'.

I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
it.....

'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.

So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
$1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
up in a dumpster otherwise.....   How much of this great stuff ended
up in landfills?

This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
steal :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX-/150634398488?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2312828318#ht_572wt_901

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#3054

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, IUnknown wrote:

> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> occasionally.
>
> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> it.....
>
> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> up in a dumpster otherwise.....   How much of this great stuff ended
> up in landfills?
>
After the buildup, I thought you were going to reveal far more interesting 
things underneath, or even before a box was mentioned, a IIGS or something 
exotic.

The spare ADB keyboards and mice that I have were all found on the 
sidewalk, waiting for the garbage trucks.

     Michael

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#3060

An ADB keyboard is a score these days.  Sure, we used to be able to
find computers with ZipGSX's and Second Sight Cards too, just waiting
to get thrown out.  An extra keyboard will supplement the dozens of
keyboardless CPU's that are out there.  Good find.

On Oct 17, 8:34 am, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, IUnknown wrote:
> > My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> > occasionally.
>
> > I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> > she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> > it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> > So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> > couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> > day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> > locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> > there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> > I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> > printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> > apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> > it.....
>
> > 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> > So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> > $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> > up in a dumpster otherwise.....   How much of this great stuff ended
> > up in landfills?
>
> After the buildup, I thought you were going to reveal far more interesting
> things underneath, or even before a box was mentioned, a IIGS or something
> exotic.
>
> The spare ADB keyboards and mice that I have were all found on the
> sidewalk, waiting for the garbage trucks.
>
>      Michael

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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, PZ wrote:

> An ADB keyboard is a score these days.  Sure, we used to be able to
> find computers with ZipGSX's and Second Sight Cards too, just waiting
> to get thrown out.  An extra keyboard will supplement the dozens of
> keyboardless CPU's that are out there.  Good find.
>
I gather from a later message that he needed one, which actually does
make the story much more important.  To stumble on something just when 
it's needed is always a good find.

I thought he was just talking about finding a spare ADB keyboard, and I've 
found them up till even a few years ago.

Maybe I'm just luckier than some, I worry now that people have started 
following the "rules" and taking electronics in the special days when
there is a collection. How much perfectly useful stuff is going there now 
rather than the garbage, yet just dissovled for parts or whatever because 
the collection company can't recognize older equipment? A lot of the small
groups that take donations for rummage sales are getting pickier, too. 
Yet the only reason I have a IIGS is because one school about fifteen 
years ago had a number of them at their rummage sale, for five dollars 
each.

People worry about the neat stuff lost when people throw it out, I see it 
as potential to finding neat stuff, that wouldn't happen unless people 
threw it out.

I once found a Grappler in amongst some miscellaneous junk.  That seemed 
like quite a find, to find it in the garbage in the first place, but also 
that for someone who recognized what it was to find it.

I did find that 80meg iPod last summer, waiting for a new battery (and it 
was tossed out with a soldering iron too).  I bought a spare 56K modem 
last year at a garage sale, in case my current one dies (with few people 
buying them new, they aren't common on the used market), then a couple of 
weeks later found another 56K modem in the garbage.  Both external.  I 
found a wacom table among a lot of Mac discard this past summer, though
no pen (I wasn't thinking, so I have no idea if the pen was missing before
the tablet was tossed, or I simply should have looked for it among the 
junk).  That pile also resulted in some SCSI cables, that might be useful 
at some point.  I found an LCD VGA monitor last year when the students 
moved out, and another one this year that goes into sleep mode without 
prompting so I assume it needs some work on the power supply.  I found
a Radio Shack "video camera" that stores on an SD card in the garbage last 
summer, not that interesting but the SD card in it was.  I even found a 
Sony shortwave radio, admittely with the boards hanging off the open case, 
in a pile of interesting garbage a few years ago.  Something common like 
a monitor, many likely pass by who might make use of it, something more 
exotic, it requires a certain type of person.

I don't even go digging, I will go out on certain days when there is 
likelihood of interesting things (such as when the students move out in
the spring, and a lesser move out at the end of summer, and then a lot of 
people move here on July 1st), and I find all kinds of interesting things
without digging in the actual garbage bags.  I likely do miss things that 
way, but I avoid the real garbage, and making a mess.  I do find enough 
interesting things without having to dig.

     Michael




> On Oct 17, 8:34 am, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, IUnknown wrote:
>>> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
>>> occasionally.
>>
>>> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
>>> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
>>> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>>
>>> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
>>> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
>>> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
>>> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
>>> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>>
>>> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
>>> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
>>> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
>>> it.....
>>
>>> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>>
>>> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
>>> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
>>> up in a dumpster otherwise.....   How much of this great stuff ended
>>> up in landfills?
>>
>> After the buildup, I thought you were going to reveal far more interesting
>> things underneath, or even before a box was mentioned, a IIGS or something
>> exotic.
>>
>> The spare ADB keyboards and mice that I have were all found on the
>> sidewalk, waiting for the garbage trucks.
>>
>>      Michael
>

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#3059

On Oct 17, 10:05 am, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> occasionally.
>
> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> it.....
>
> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> up in a dumpster otherwise.....   How much of this great stuff ended
> up in landfills?
>
> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> steal :)
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX...

That's awesome I just picked ap a iigs system with the keyboard,
monitor, mouse, 3.5 and 5.25 drive for $50 on Craigslist.

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#3070

On Oct 17, 9:05 am, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> occasionally.
>
> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> it.....
>
> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> up in a dumpster otherwise.....   How much of this great stuff ended
> up in landfills?
>
> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> steal :)
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX...

heh the only luck I have had at a yardsale (outside of my dec386 lappy
but in apple terms) was someone had a bag of old mouses, in there was
1 ADB mouse, I asked how much the bag was and got 40$ and that was
including 2 dumpy looking CRT VGA monitors and a broken compaq pentium
chunk of ...  with no exceptions, all or nothing,  I told her good
luck and left.

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#3098

On 2011-10-17 22:15:03 +0000, Kevin Dady said:

> On Oct 17, 9:05 am, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
>> occasionally.
>> 
>> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
>> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
>> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>> 
>> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
>> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
>> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
>> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
>> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>> 
>> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
>> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
>> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
>> it.....
>> 
>> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>> 
>> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
>> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
>> up in a dumpster otherwise.....   How much of this great stuff ended
>> up in landfills?
>> 
>> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
>> steal :)
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX...
> 
> heh the only luck I have had at a yardsale (outside of my dec386 lappy
> but in apple terms) was someone had a bag of old mouses, in there was
> 1 ADB mouse, I asked how much the bag was and got 40$ and that was
> including 2 dumpy looking CRT VGA monitors and a broken compaq pentium
> chunk of ...  with no exceptions, all or nothing,  I told her good
> luck and left.

I've never had any luck at yard sales, and it's been a few years since 
any Apple II-related stuff showed up at the local thrift stores.  Ten 
years ago, that wasn't the case -- I could walk out of any charity 
store around here with an armload of A2 gear for ~ US $20.  In fact, I 
got my first Transwarp in a GS from one of those places.  The whole 
machine cost me $15.  (How's that card working these days, Ed? ;))

Those days are long gone though.  Either people are recycling 
everything "responsibly", as was suggested above, or it has become 
common knowledge that you can actually make a few dollars on this stuff 
through eBay instead of just donating it.  And, at least one thrift 
chain automatically trashes anything that won't run at least Windows 98 
or Mac OS 9.

-- 
- Mike

Podcast: http://open-apple.net
Scans: http://apple2scans.net
Blog: http://6502lane.net

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#3117

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, Mike Maginnis wrote:


> Those days are long gone though.  Either people are recycling everything 
> "responsibly", as was suggested above, or it has become common knowledge that 
> you can actually make a few dollars on this stuff through eBay instead of 
> just donating it.  And, at least one thrift chain automatically trashes 
> anything that won't run at least Windows 98 or Mac OS 9.
>
One rummage sale about five years ago had a Radio Shack Model 200, the 
sequel to the model 100 laptop.  I think the 200 had a larger screen, if I 
remember properly it did fold over.  I didn't see the computer, but over 
in the book section I found the manuals.  I said something to one of the 
staff and they said "yes, we had the computer".  So whoever was lucky to 
get the computer missed out on the manuals, which likely would have been 
useful.  I've seen that happene elsewhere, things clearly a set get 
separated by those unfamiliar with what's what.

    Michael

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#3138

On Oct 18, 10:18 am, Mike Maginnis <mmagin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've never had any luck at yard sales, and it's been a few years since
> any Apple II-related stuff showed up at the local thrift stores.  Ten
> years ago, that wasn't the case -- I could walk out of any charity
> store around here with an armload of A2 gear for ~ US $20.  In fact, I
> got my first Transwarp in a GS from one of those places.  The whole
> machine cost me $15.  (How's that card working these days, Ed? ;))
> - Mike
>
> Podcast:http://open-apple.net
> Scans:http://apple2scans.net
> Blog:http://6502lane.net

While I have likely lost track, I believe that particular over clocked
card is in Matt's GS.
Thankx,
Ed

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#3145

On Oct 18, 9:18 am, Mike Maginnis <mmagin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've never had any luck at yard sales

Same here.  And, Craigslist in my area (SLC, UT) is rarely used.
However our local classifieds (http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=13)
are awesome.  I've picked up //cs, IIes, Macs, etc...  Still no Apple
III however.

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#3191

On Oct 18, 11:18 am, Mike Maginnis <mmagin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2011-10-17 22:15:03 +0000, Kevin Dady said:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 17, 9:05 am, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> My wife and I like the drive around and go to garage sales
> >> occasionally.
>
> >> I have been looking for a stereo receiver for my garage - and well,
> >> she just likes to shop. We figure that why throw something away when
> >> it could still have life - and mostly, I am just cheap.
>
> >> So, after finding a suitable stereo receiver (Sony - $10), we hit a
> >> couple of other garage sales and are just about to head home for the
> >> day. We hit the last house, and are perusing the inventory. The wife
> >> locates an old hello kitty cordless phone, and my son says 'Dad -
> >> there is some apple stuff over here'.
>
> >> I wander over to the cardboard box containing an old HP deskjet style
> >> printer.... and there is a PC-style keyboard and mouse in there -
> >> apple branded with an ADB connector. My son asked what they wanted for
> >> it.....
>
> >> 'Give me a $1 and you can take it'.
>
> >> So, I walked away with a great (working) full-size ADB keyboard for
> >> $1. Gotta love garage sales. The sad thing is that it would have ended
> >> up in a dumpster otherwise.....   How much of this great stuff ended
> >> up in landfills?
>
> >> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> >> steal :)
>
> >>http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX...
>
> > heh the only luck I have had at a yardsale (outside of my dec386 lappy
> > but in apple terms) was someone had a bag of old mouses, in there was
> > 1 ADB mouse, I asked how much the bag was and got 40$ and that was
> > including 2 dumpy looking CRT VGA monitors and a broken compaq pentium
> > chunk of ...  with no exceptions, all or nothing,  I told her good
> > luck and left.
>
> I've never had any luck at yard sales, and it's been a few years since
> any Apple II-related stuff showed up at the local thrift stores.  Ten
> years ago, that wasn't the case -- I could walk out of any charity
> store around here with an armload of A2 gear for ~ US $20.  In fact, I
> got my first Transwarp in a GS from one of those places.  The whole
> machine cost me $15.  (How's that card working these days, Ed? ;))
>
> Those days are long gone though.  Either people are recycling
> everything "responsibly", as was suggested above, or it has become
> common knowledge that you can actually make a few dollars on this stuff
> through eBay instead of just donating it.  And, at least one thrift
> chain automatically trashes anything that won't run at least Windows 98
> or Mac OS 9.
>
> --
> - Mike
>
> Podcast:http://open-apple.net
> Scans:http://apple2scans.net
> Blog:http://6502lane.net

Last December I picked up a IIGS system complete with original boxes,
monitor, drives, AE ram keeper, kingston gs system saver, tons of
programming books and software.  all I had to do was pick it up.  The
owner had to get them out of his basement or his wife was going to
pitch and he decided he'd rather give away free.  It was an awesome
haul.  He meticulously packed in the boxes and kept everything
together.  I was originally just going for the hardcover Apple IIGS
books but got a few thrills as I opened up each box and found
something else.

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#3096

On Monday, October 17, 2011 9:05:21 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:

> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> steal :)
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX-/150634398488?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2312828318#ht_572wt_901

That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS. :(

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#3100

On Oct 18, 8:02 am, Sean Fahey <a2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 17, 2011 9:05:21 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:
> > This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> > steal :)
>
> >http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX...
>
> That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS. :(

Yes, I noticed that a few of the keys map 'strangely' :)

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#3101

On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:24:37 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:

> > That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS. :(
> 
> Yes, I noticed that a few of the keys map 'strangely' :)

IMO, aside the from the original IIGS keyboard, the next best option is the Extended Keyboard I or II (kinda large but with excellent tactile feedback). In a pinch I'll make do with a standard Keyboard II but I don't care for it's unusual layout.

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#3102

Sean Fahey wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:24:37 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:
> 
>> > That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully
>> > compatible with the IIGS. :(
>> 
>> Yes, I noticed that a few of the keys map 'strangely' :)
> 
> IMO, aside the from the original IIGS keyboard, the next best option is
the
> Extended Keyboard I or II (kinda large but with excellent tactile
> feedback). In a pinch I'll make do with a standard Keyboard II but I don't
> care for it's unusual layout.
>

And a ROM3 GS has the ADB controller that knows what to do with the Caps
Lock light.

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#3151

On Oct 18, 9:02 am, Sean Fahey <a2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 17, 2011 9:05:21 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:
> > This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> > steal :)
>
> >http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX...
>
> That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS. :(

A bit off topic, but what is the smallest keyboard I can use for the
Mac SE?  The keyboard that came with my SE dwarfs every other keyboard
I have and the SE itself.  The 128K Mac keyboard size was perfect.  I
am also interested in any PS2 to ADP adapters (mouse and keyboard) for
SE and possibly IIGS.

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2011, Egan Ford wrote:

> On Oct 18, 9:02 am, Sean Fahey <a2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, October 17, 2011 9:05:21 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:
>>> This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
>>> steal :)
>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX...
>>
>> That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS. :(
>
> A bit off topic, but what is the smallest keyboard I can use for the
> Mac SE?  The keyboard that came with my SE dwarfs every other keyboard
> I have and the SE itself.  The 128K Mac keyboard size was perfect.  I
> am also interested in any PS2 to ADP adapters (mouse and keyboard) for
> SE and possibly IIGS.
>
The original Mac keyboard had no number pad, which shortened it.  And it 
the Mac 512 and the Mac Plus all used a non-ADB bus keyboard.

When I wsa using a Mac LC, it had a very narrow keyboard, I'm not sure of 
the model number.  It had the number pad, but either the keys were smaller 
or they put little gap between the keys, since it was "small". I remember 
late finding other ADB keyboards and they were big, just like those for 
the IBM.

    Michael

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#3158

Apple M0487 Mac Keyboard II is probably the smallest Apple KB you'll find, except for the IIGS KB (no function keys on it though). I've seen smaller aftermarket ADB keyboards but not for several years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_Keyboard_II.jpg

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#3169

On Oct 19, 10:00 am, Egan Ford <dataj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 18, 9:02 am, Sean Fahey <a2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, October 17, 2011 9:05:21 AM UTC-5, IUnknown wrote:
> > > This is an ebay auction showing the keyboard type. For $1, it was a
> > > steal :)
>
> > >http://www.ebay.com/itm/AppleDesign-Keyboard-M2980-Use-Apple-II-GS-FX...
>
> > That will work fine on a Mac, but the AppleDesign KB isn't fully compatible with the IIGS. :(
>
> A bit off topic, but what is the smallest keyboard I can use for the
> Mac SE?  The keyboard that came with my SE dwarfs every other keyboard
> I have and the SE itself.  The 128K Mac keyboard size was perfect.  I
> am also interested in any PS2 to ADP adapters (mouse and keyboard) for
> SE and possibly IIGS.

I use a keyboard from a beige G3 I found at goodwill for 2 bucks,
though goodwill usually sucks, its not small, but its no larger than
any other normal today keyboard

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