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Em segunda-feira, 24 de maio de 1993 às 17:04:36 UTC-3, Guenther Grau escreveu:
> In article <JKH.93Ma...@whisker.lotus.ie>, j...@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) writes:
> |> [Copy of email sent to Guenther]
> Didn't get any email from you by now.
> |> 
> |> I have only one question: Why are you starting with Linux?
> |> 
> |> I've looked at putting Unix on the Amiga and see only two really
> |> practical alternatives: BSDSS on top of Kludge Mach (BSDSS is about to
> |> be resumed at CMU, see announcement on the 27th of May) or 386bsd with
> |> the contributed HP300/400 code (all 68K based).
> |> 
> |> The reason I'd recommend 386bsd at all is for the simple reason that
> |> the 386 specific code has been largely isolated to one area of the
> |> code, and that there's already 68K code becoming available as part of
> |> the BSD 4.4 efforts on HP 68040 boxes.
> |> 
> |> On the BSDSS front, things look much better, with a running Mach
> |> already on the Amiga and a free unix server looking like it's finally
> |> in the cards (CMU had backed away from BSDSS for awhile due to the
> |> USL->BSDI crap).
> |> 
> |> Linux is about the worst place to start from, given the Intel specific
> |> stuff scattered all throughout the code - better to write a Linux
> |> server on top of Mach if it's "linux behaviour" you're looking for -
> |> that would at least save you from having to do all the messy VM stuff
> |> again. Linus himself has said that he never really intended Linux to
> |> run on anything but PC's, and he wasn't all that careful about putting
> |> all the PC specific stuff in one place.
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Like I said, I'd go Mach or BSD. What stage are you people at?
> |> --
> |> Jordan Hubbard Lotus Development Ireland j...@whisker.lotus.ie
> Hi Jordan, hi world!
> I want to clear things up a bit and answer your question, why we are 'starting'
> with Linux. 
> I have followed the discussions about Unix on the Amiga for about two years now.
> I have concluded the following, please correct me if I am wrong:
> There is a community of Amiga-freaks who like to unix (never tried it as a verb
> before) on their Amiga, including me. I haven't been able to pay for the
> commercial version from CBM (Amix), but was willing to work for a PD-version of
> AmigaUnix, i.e. to do some programming for it.
> I haven't had a look at the mach-sources you mention above, but I have to say,
> that the work around it got quite silent. I don't now what the current stage is,
> but I haven't seen anything working around, nor a statement when it will be
> available. I, too, don't know, how much work will have to be invested in porting
> BSDSS to KludgeMach on the 680x0. 
> What I do know is, that some people have been working on a port of AmigaLinux for
> a long time, but the team of porters fizzled. An independent work of this group
> was done by Hamish, who got quite far without the help of anybody. He released
> his work to the public in order to find other programmers helping him on his
> port. It was a 'working' kernel, with most of the drivers missing, and therefore
> it was (it still is, although some drivers have already been addad).only useable
> for other developers.
> As this is the (IMHO) most promising effort underway at the moment, I am
> willing to join this team as soon as I am able to (need 68030-board for A1000). I
> don't want to see the port ending up into a discussion, where to start the port.
> I want to do some real work and the sources provided by Hamish are the best way
> to do. I don't want to discuss, if it is better to port mach and then bsdss or
> 386bsd or anything else, but I want to join the most promising effort to have 
> Un*x running SOON on your Amiga.
> I haven't heard about the 386bsd-port to HP 68040 boxes. Maybe you can email me
> about that. I am not willing to reinvent the wheel. If there is something, we can
> merge into AmigaLinux and it helps us saving time then, of course, it will be
> merged with the current port of AmigaLinux.
> That's all for now. Any questions and comments welcome.
> Guenther
> ----------------------
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