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On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 6:51:53 PM UTC-7, yello gore wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 9:10:38 PM UTC-5, the best of the world wrote: 
> > Em segunda-feira, 24 de maio de 1993 às 17:04:36 UTC-3, Guenther Grau escreveu: 
> > > In article <JKH.93Ma...@whisker.lotus.ie>, j...@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) writes: 
> > > |> [Copy of email sent to Guenther] 
> > > Didn't get any email from you by now. 
> > > |> 
> > > |> I have only one question: Why are you starting with Linux? 
> > > |> 
> > > |> I've looked at putting Unix on the Amiga and see only two really 
> > > |> practical alternatives: BSDSS on top of Kludge Mach (BSDSS is about to 
> > > |> be resumed at CMU, see announcement on the 27th of May) or 386bsd with 
> > > |> the contributed HP300/400 code (all 68K based). 
> > > |> 
> > > |> The reason I'd recommend 386bsd at all is for the simple reason that 
> > > |> the 386 specific code has been largely isolated to one area of the 
> > > |> code, and that there's already 68K code becoming available as part of 
> > > |> the BSD 4.4 efforts on HP 68040 boxes. 
> > > |> 
> > > |> On the BSDSS front, things look much better, with a running Mach 
> > > |> already on the Amiga and a free unix server looking like it's finally 
> > > |> in the cards (CMU had backed away from BSDSS for awhile due to the 
> > > |> USL->BSDI crap). 
> > > |> 
> > > |> Linux is about the worst place to start from, given the Intel specific 
> > > |> stuff scattered all throughout the code - better to write a Linux 
> > > |> server on top of Mach if it's "linux behaviour" you're looking for - 
> > > |> that would at least save you from having to do all the messy VM stuff 
> > > |> again. Linus himself has said that he never really intended Linux to 
> > > |> run on anything but PC's, and he wasn't all that careful about putting 
> > > |> all the PC specific stuff in one place. 
> > > |> 
> > > |> 
> > > |> Like I said, I'd go Mach or BSD. What stage are you people at? 
> > > |> -- 
> > > |> Jordan Hubbard Lotus Development Ireland j...@whisker.lotus.ie 
> > > Hi Jordan, hi world! 
> > > I want to clear things up a bit and answer your question, why we are 'starting' 
> > > with Linux. 
> > > I have followed the discussions about Unix on the Amiga for about two years now. 
> > > I have concluded the following, please correct me if I am wrong: 
> > > There is a community of Amiga-freaks who like to unix (never tried it as a verb 
> > > before) on their Amiga, including me. I haven't been able to pay for the 
> > > commercial version from CBM (Amix), but was willing to work for a PD-version of 
> > > AmigaUnix, i.e. to do some programming for it. 
> > > I haven't had a look at the mach-sources you mention above, but I have to say, 
> > > that the work around it got quite silent. I don't now what the current stage is, 
> > > but I haven't seen anything working around, nor a statement when it will be 
> > > available. I, too, don't know, how much work will have to be invested in porting 
> > > BSDSS to KludgeMach on the 680x0. 
> > > What I do know is, that some people have been working on a port of AmigaLinux for 
> > > a long time, but the team of porters fizzled. An independent work of this group 
> > > was done by Hamish, who got quite far without the help of anybody. He released 
> > > his work to the public in order to find other programmers helping him on his 
> > > port. It was a 'working' kernel, with most of the drivers missing, and therefore 
> > > it was (it still is, although some drivers have already been addad).only useable 
> > > for other developers. 
> > > As this is the (IMHO) most promising effort underway at the moment, I am 
> > > willing to join this team as soon as I am able to (need 68030-board for A1000). I 
> > > don't want to see the port ending up into a discussion, where to start the port. 
> > > I want to do some real work and the sources provided by Hamish are the best way 
> > > to do. I don't want to discuss, if it is better to port mach and then bsdss or 
> > > 386bsd or anything else, but I want to join the most promising effort to have 
> > > Un*x running SOON on your Amiga. 
> > > I haven't heard about the 386bsd-port to HP 68040 boxes. Maybe you can email me 
> > > about that. I am not willing to reinvent the wheel. If there is something, we can 
> > > merge into AmigaLinux and it helps us saving time then, of course, it will be 
> > > merged with the current port of AmigaLinux. 
> > > That's all for now. Any questions and comments welcome. 
> > > Guenther 
> > > ---------------------- 
> > > Guenther Grau, Willy-Andreas-Allee 7, D-7500 (76131) Karlsruhe 1, FRG 
> > > Institute for Dialoque- and Operatingsystems, University of Karlsruhe 
> > > Home : +49 721 23445 
> > > Fax : +49 721 697 760 
> > > s_g...@ira.uka.de 
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