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In article <7Qv*AP9GA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
   Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <5cd75f4273News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
> >    Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <5cd75e3dc2dnews@triffid.co.uk>,
> > >    Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > I guess I'll lose two Router sockets at the changeover, one
> > > > for the Cat5e input and a second one for the new phone
> > > > connection.
> > 
> > > Depends. If your router has a dedicated WAN ethernet port, then
> > > you will not lose a LAN ethernet port for the incoming cable.
> > > But many routers have a port that is used for the WAN, or a LAN
> > > connection otherwise, so you would lose an LAN port.
> > 
> > > If your router has a working and supported phone socket, then
> > > it will not need a LAN port. However, some routers (notably
> > > Plusnet ones) have a phone socket but it is NOT working as it
> > > is not supported by the firmware! If you are using a separate
> > > ATA, or phone system that incluses one, then you WILL lose an
> > > ethernet LAN port.
> > 
> > My router is a Draytek Vigor 2765ac It has 4 Lan ports and one
> > DSL port that's connected to the house phone line.

> One important thing to know is that most consumer ISPs (can't speak
> for Orpheus) won't let you use their 'digital voice' service with
> your own router.  Either you have to use their router, or you can't
> use their landline service.  In theory you can use your own
> phone->ethernet box (the ATA) with a phone socket, but most won't
> tell you the necessary login details to do it.

I think that appplies to BT (and therefore EE) routers and their
'digital voice' but are there any others?  AFAIK this because they
are not using standard VIOP, but their own version of it which is
incompatible with standards based systems.  Nicely helps to lock
users in to their services.

An ATA should be able to be plugged in to any router and work with a
standard VOIP service ... unless the router is locked to block such
things.

> So either you stick with your ISP and their router, or you move
> your phone service to someone more enlightened and have a separate
> ATA.  I ported my landline number years ago to Andrews and Arnold,
> and I pay £1.80 per month 'line rental' then for calls it's
> 1.5p/min to landlines and 4p/min to mobiles.  Since I don't make
> many calls this works out cheaper than paying my ISP for a phone
> package.

I intend to use my FritzBox router, connected to Plusnet, and use
Andrews and Arnold like you.

-- 
Martin Avison 
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received. 

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Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-10 23:35 +0100
  Re: Digital switchover Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 07:32 +0100
    Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-11 11:48 +0100
      Re: Digital switchover Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 16:17 +0100
        Re: Digital switchover Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 16:38 +0100
          Re: Digital switchover Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 16:49 +0100
            Re: Digital switchover Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 20:36 +0100
              Re: Digital switchover Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 22:24 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-05-12 09:37 +0100
                Digital switchover Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-05-13 16:09 +0100
              Re: Digital switchover Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 21:22 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 22:00 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-22 00:10 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-05-25 20:11 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2026-05-25 21:00 +0000
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-25 22:11 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2026-05-25 22:24 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-25 22:16 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-05-26 10:15 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-26 12:11 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-25 23:20 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2026-05-26 01:00 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-26 08:38 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2026-05-26 18:32 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-26 08:37 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-26 16:02 +0100
          Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 18:06 +0100
      Re: Digital switchover Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2026-05-11 22:26 +0100
    Re: Digital switchover Adrian Crafer <acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 11:00 +0000
  Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 13:12 +0100
    Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-11 14:17 +0100
      Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-11 14:21 +0100
        Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 14:35 +0100
    Re: Digital switchover Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 15:12 +0100
      Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 18:00 +0100
        Re: Digital switchover Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2026-05-12 10:18 +0100
          Re: Digital switchover Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 19:14 +0100
    Re: Digital switchover Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2026-05-11 16:23 +0100
      Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-12 09:46 +0100
        Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-12 10:15 +0100
          Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-12 10:28 +0100
          Re: Digital switchover Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2026-05-12 10:42 +0100
            Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-12 13:26 +0100
          Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-12 11:37 +0100
            Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-12 12:30 +0100
              Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-12 13:12 +0100
              Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-12 13:27 +0100
              Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-13 12:59 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-13 15:03 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-14 17:13 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-14 18:04 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-15 21:54 +0100
            Re: Digital switchover Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 19:24 +0100
              Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-12 20:33 +0100
                Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-12 21:38 +0100
        Re: Digital switchover Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2026-05-12 10:27 +0100
        Re: Digital switchover Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 19:18 +0100
          Re: Digital switchover Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-05-12 20:42 +0100
  Re: Digital switchover druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2026-05-11 14:32 +0100
    Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-12 11:08 +0100
      Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-12 13:29 +0100
        Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-12 14:29 +0100
          Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-13 00:05 +0100
            Re: Digital switchover Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2026-05-13 10:48 +0100
              Re: Digital switchover Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> - 2026-05-13 12:58 +0100

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