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  Port Numbers stephen.hull@btinternet.com - 2025-02-18 09:39 +0000
    Re: Port Numbers Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2025-02-18 10:48 +0000
      Re: Port Numbers Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2025-02-18 14:15 +0000
        Re: Port Numbers Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-02-18 14:22 +0000
          Re: Port Numbers Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2025-02-19 17:30 +0000
      Re: Port Numbers stephen.hull@btinternet.com - 2025-02-19 06:36 +0000
        Re: Port Numbers Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> - 2025-02-19 09:23 +0100
          Re: Port Numbers stephen.hull@btinternet.com - 2025-02-19 17:49 +0000
    Re: Port Numbers Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-02-18 12:34 +0000
      Re: Port Numbers stephen.hull@btinternet.com - 2025-02-19 06:36 +0000
        Re: Port Numbers Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-02-19 09:32 +0000
          Re: Port Numbers stephen.hull@btinternet.com - 2025-02-19 17:47 +0000
            Re: Port Numbers Frederick <fred@ypical.demon.invalid> - 2025-02-19 18:45 +0000
              Re: Port Numbers stephen.hull@btinternet.com - 2025-02-19 21:04 +0000
    Re: Port Numbers Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2025-02-18 14:15 +0000
      Re: Port Numbers stephen.hull@btinternet.com - 2025-02-19 06:36 +0000

#21561 — Port Numbers

[Posted and mailed]


I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

I have had issues recently with port number and I have changed them and
email can be sent again but this time it doesn't matter what port number
I use email still stays in the queue.

The port numbers I have been using are 110,995,143,993,465 all to no
avail.

I am using Messenger Pro 8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)

Hermes 5.56.01 (21 Oct 2022)

Netfetch 5.56 (1st May, 2024)

At the moment my setup is: SMTP mail.btinternet.com, Port 995, SSL
usually 465

Assuming it is actually a Port number problem as it usually is?

My question is what is the current port number please to use with
Btinternet I am now on Port 995?

Many thanks for any information gratefully received.

Stephen

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#21562

In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
   <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:

[Snip]

> My question is what is the current port number please to use with
> Btinternet I am now on Port 995?

[Snip]

It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
Hermes setup to be...

SMTP mail server - mail.btinternet.com
Port - 25
I need to log in to this account - Checkbox ticked
User name and Password - Completed with my details

HTH

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________

Brian Jordan
brian.jordan9@btinternet.com
RISC OS 5.30 (27-Apr-24) on Raspberry Pi
_____________________________________________________________________

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#21565

In article <5bf1110de5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
   Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
> It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
> Hermes setup to be...

Where do you find this info in Hermes?
Alan

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#21566

In message <5bf1143436ajg@argonet.co.uk>
          Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <5bf1110de5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
>    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
>> Hermes setup to be...

> Where do you find this info in Hermes?

If you want the Incoming server details then Choices from icon bar menu of 
netfetch the Emailboxes for incoming settings.

If you accessing Hermes then menu over the icon bar icon then mailaccounts 
allows you to choose between incoming and outgoing.



-- 
Chris Hughes

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#21572

In article <d6a124f15b.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> If you want the Incoming server details then Choices from icon bar
> menu of netfetch the Emailboxes for incoming settings.

> If you accessing Hermes then menu over the icon bar icon then
> mailaccounts allows you to choose between incoming and outgoing.

Where do you find info about ports, and how do you change them?
How do you know what port to use?
Alan

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#21569

In message <5bf1110de5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
          Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

>In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
>   <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>[Snip]
>
>> My question is what is the current port number please to use with
>> Btinternet I am now on Port 995?
>
>[Snip]
>
>It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
>Hermes setup to be...
>
>SMTP mail server - mail.btinternet.com
>Port - 25
>I need to log in to this account - Checkbox ticked
>User name and Password - Completed with my details
>
>HTH
>

I have tried the above configuration thanks, but still no joy.
Maybe it is because the AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3 is
out of date on my machine, Where can I find the latest update please?

Steve

-- 

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#21570

In message <02d47df15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
          stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> In message <5bf1110de5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
>           Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

>>In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
>>   <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>[Snip]
>>
>>> My question is what is the current port number please to use with
>>> Btinternet I am now on Port 995?
>>
>>[Snip]
>>
>>It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
>>Hermes setup to be...
>>
>>SMTP mail server - mail.btinternet.com
>>Port - 25
>>I need to log in to this account - Checkbox ticked
>>User name and Password - Completed with my details
>>
>>HTH
>>

> I have tried the above configuration thanks, but still no joy.
> Maybe it is because the AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3 is
> out of date on my machine, Where can I find the latest update please?

> Steve
In Harddisc4 ( !System.350.modules.network.url)
https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common


-- 
Jean-Michel

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#21574

In message <faa587f15b.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>
          Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> wrote:


[snip]


>
>> I have tried the above configuration thanks, but still no joy.
>> Maybe it is because the AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3 is
>> out of date on my machine, Where can I find the latest update please?
>
>> Steve
>In Harddisc4 ( !System.350.modules.network.url)
>https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common
>
>


-- 
Many Thanks Jean Michel for the Acorn SSL link.

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#21563

In message <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
          stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> [Posted and mailed]


> I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
> mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
> just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

> I have had issues recently with port number and I have changed them and
> email can be sent again but this time it doesn't matter what port number
> I use email still stays in the queue.

I think BT had a major email outage the other day which might have 
affected you.

> The port numbers I have been using are 110,995,143,993,465 all to no
> avail.

All the details are here from BTinternet:

https://www.bt.com/help/email/manage-email-account/manual-settings/what-are-the-settings-for-outgoing-and-incoming-bt-email-servers

Thats all one line.

> I am using Messenger Pro 8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)

You might want to update to current version v9.01  I believe it is on 
offer at the moment from R-Comp.

> Hermes 5.56.01 (21 Oct 2022)

> Netfetch 5.56 (1st May, 2024)

Ensure you are using at least version 1.06 (27 May 2023) mbedTLS 2.28.5 of 
the AcornSSL module, be careful to check the mbedTLS version information 
of the module as that is what tends to be undated

> At the moment my setup is: SMTP mail.btinternet.com, Port 995, SSL
> usually 465

It should be 465 check your you have SSL enabled, and make sure the APOP 
is unticked by the looks of the above link.

> Assuming it is actually a Port number problem as it usually is?

> My question is what is the current port number please to use with
> Btinternet I am now on Port 995?

That is wrong! it either has to be 993 for IMAP or 465 for SMTP. port 995 
is *only* for POP3.

Good luck

-- 
Chris Hughes

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#21567

In message <8abc1af15b.chris@mytardis>
          Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
>          stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>> [Posted and mailed]
>
>
>> I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
>> mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
>> just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?
>

[snip]


>All the details are here from BTinternet:
>
>https://www.bt.com/help/email/manage-email-account/manual-settings/what-are-the-settings-for-outgoing-and-incoming-bt-email-servers
>
>Thats all one line.
>
>> I am using Messenger Pro 8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)
>
>You might want to update to current version v9.01  I believe it is on
>offer at the moment from R-Comp.
>
>> Hermes 5.56.01 (21 Oct 2022)
>
>> Netfetch 5.56 (1st May, 2024)
>
>Ensure you are using at least version 1.06 (27 May 2023) mbedTLS 2.28.5 of
>the AcornSSL module, be careful to check the mbedTLS version information
>of the module as that is what tends to be undated.

Mine is the old version of AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3
perhaps it is this that is the problem, I have tried all the above
configuration posted on here to no avail, the error message in
Hermes transfer status shows "Connection lost".

Regards,

Steve
--

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#21571

In message <54d67df15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
          stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> In message <8abc1af15b.chris@mytardis>
>           Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>>In message <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
>>          stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>>> [Posted and mailed]
>>
>>
>>> I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
>>> mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
>>> just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?
>>

> [snip]


>>All the details are here from BTinternet:
>>
>>https://www.bt.com/help/email/manage-email-account/manual-settings/what-ar
>>e-the-settings-for-outgoing-and-incoming-bt-email-servers
>>
>>Thats all one line.
>>
>>> I am using Messenger Pro 8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)
>>
>>You might want to update to current version v9.01  I believe it is on
>>offer at the moment from R-Comp.
>>
>>> Hermes 5.56.01 (21 Oct 2022)
>>
>>> Netfetch 5.56 (1st May, 2024)
>>
>>Ensure you are using at least version 1.06 (27 May 2023) mbedTLS 2.28.5 of
>>the AcornSSL module, be careful to check the mbedTLS version information
>>of the module as that is what tends to be undated.

> Mine is the old version of AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3
> perhaps it is this that is the problem, I have tried all the above
> configuration posted on here to no avail, the error message in
> Hermes transfer status shows "Connection lost".

I would do the following steps.

1) get the latest AcornSSL module and install it (keep a backup of the old 
module just in case). Once installed reboot your computer.

2) change your settings in Hermes/Netfetch to the *official* ports as per 
the link I gave above, those are the only settings that will work.

3) Before trying to send any emails, go to your account in NetFetch/Hermes 
and change the mail log levels to I suggest to "detailed" as this will 
record the full exchange of the hand-shake between you and the server and 
might give a better clue as to actual error behind the scenes.

Let us know what happens.



-- 
Chris Hughes

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#21573

In message <f6f48df15b.chris@mytardis>
          Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:


[snip]


>> Mine is the old version of AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3
>> perhaps it is this that is the problem, I have tried all the above
>> configuration posted on here to no avail, the error message in
>> Hermes transfer status shows "Connection lost".
>
>I would do the following steps.
>
>1) get the latest AcornSSL module and install it (keep a backup of the old
>module just in case). Once installed reboot your computer.
>
>2) change your settings in Hermes/Netfetch to the *official* ports as per
>the link I gave above, those are the only settings that will work.
>
>3) Before trying to send any emails, go to your account in NetFetch/Hermes
>and change the mail log levels to I suggest to "detailed" as this will
>record the full exchange of the hand-shake between you and the server and
>might give a better clue as to actual error behind the scenes.
>
>Let us know what happens.
>
-- 
Eureka! I can now send email again, I think it was the SSL module.
Set up as suggested so many many thanks for the time you all have
offered to help.

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#21575

In message <584cbbf15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
     stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

[snip]
> -- 
> Eureka! I can now send email again, I think it was the SSL module.
> Set up as suggested so many many thanks for the time you all have
> offered to help.

Now all you need to do is to place your replies above the sig seperator
:-)

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#21576

In message <mpro.sry1gg0061axt00sd.fred@ypical.demon.invalid>
          Frederick <fred@ypical.demon.invalid> wrote:

>In message <584cbbf15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
>     stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> --
>> Eureka! I can now send email again, I think it was the SSL module.
>> Set up as suggested so many many thanks for the time you all have
>> offered to help.
>
>Now all you need to do is to place your replies above the sig seperator
>:-)

Yes I had a problem with that too but now sorted.

cheers

-- 

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#21564

In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
   <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
> mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
> just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

I had this recently, and I have discovered the reason.

The e-mail I sent said RSVP

I discovered in Hermes "Filters" that it would not accept a message in
capitals. There is a list of "Exceptions" such as RISC OS but it didn't
have RSVP. I typed in RSVP but it still didn't send.

However, after re-booting the computer, I tried again, and it sent the
e-mail.

Alan

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#21568

In message <5bf11a0d3aajg@argonet.co.uk>
          Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
>   <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
>> mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
>> just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?
>
>I had this recently, and I have discovered the reason.
>
>The e-mail I sent said RSVP
>
>I discovered in Hermes "Filters" that it would not accept a message in
>capitals. There is a list of "Exceptions" such as RISC OS but it didn't
>have RSVP. I typed in RSVP but it still didn't send.
>
>However, after re-booting the computer, I tried again, and it sent the
>e-mail.
>
>Alan
>
I have tried all that has been suggested and even a reboot has not help
me send email.

Regards,

Steve

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