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Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released

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First post2012-09-27 17:02 +0100
Last post2012-09-28 09:45 +0100
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  Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released Jess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-27 17:02 +0100
    Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-09-27 16:59 +0000
      Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-27 19:48 +0100
        Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-09-27 21:41 +0100
    Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2012-09-27 21:07 +0100
      Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-27 23:44 +0100
        Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 08:06 +0100
          Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-28 13:07 +0100
    Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-09-28 00:27 +0100
      Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 09:45 +0100

#6706 — Re: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released

FromJess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com>
Date2012-09-27 17:02 +0100
SubjectRe: Simonetta (font) for RISC OS released
Message-ID<ef88d8d552.jess@itworkshop.invalid>
In message <slrnk640e2.3b9.ngb@maple.woodpeckers.frejol.org>
          Michael Kerpan <madcrow.maxwell@gmail.com> wrote:

> The final (probably) release of the month from the RISC OS Font Project is
> here. Simonetta is a lovely typeface grounded in the typography and
> calligraphy of Renaissance Italy. Both the regular and italic fonts are
> (slightly) slanted, but the Regular forms are a bit more "printerly" while
> the italic forms are more flowing and calligraphic. As always, the font can
> be found at https://sites.google.com/site/riscosfonts/ and feedback, testing
> reports and other related correspondence is much appreciated.

These are really nice, but would it be possible to have them installed 
by riscpkg / Packman?

Fonts would seem to be a really nice thing to manage that way.

Thanks

-- 
Jess Hampshire

Plain text emails with interleaved, trimmed replies please. (RFC 1855)

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#6708

From"David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk>
Date2012-09-27 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<acjf0fFa597U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#6706
On 27-Sep-2012, Jess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com> wrote:

> These are really nice, but would it be possible to have them installed
> by riscpkg / Packman?
>
> Fonts would seem to be a really nice thing to manage that way.

I can't thinl of anything sillier. Installed where? Into EasyFont Pro?
FontFS? Some other destination or package?

-- 
David Holden  -  APDL  -  <http://www.apdl.co.uk>

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#6710

FromJess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com>
Date2012-09-27 19:48 +0100
Message-ID<99bce7d552.jess@itworkshop.invalid>
In reply to#6708
In message <acjf0fFa597U1@mid.individual.net>
          "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> wrote:


> On 27-Sep-2012, Jess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com> wrote:

>> These are really nice, but would it be possible to have them installed
>> by riscpkg / Packman?
>>
>> Fonts would seem to be a really nice thing to manage that way.

> I can't thinl of anything sillier. Installed where? Into EasyFont Pro?
> FontFS? Some other destination or package?

Straight into !fonts.

If you are using an add-on manager, then obviously you wouldn't 
install them this way.

-- 
Jess                   Iyonix

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#6721

FromDave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk>
Date2012-09-27 21:41 +0100
Message-ID<52d5f20c1fdave@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#6710
In article <99bce7d552.jess@itworkshop.invalid>,
   Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In message <acjf0fFa597U1@mid.individual.net>
>           "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> wrote:


> > On 27-Sep-2012, Jess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com> wrote:

> >> These are really nice, but would it be possible to have them installed
> >> by riscpkg / Packman?
> >>
> >> Fonts would seem to be a really nice thing to manage that way.

> > I can't thinl of anything sillier. Installed where? Into EasyFont Pro?
> > FontFS? Some other destination or package?

> Straight into !fonts.

> If you are using an add-on manager, then obviously you wouldn't 
> install them this way.

Mmnnn!
Not so sure about that. (EFP 5.18u)
I've been using EFP since the beginning but have learned from hard
experience, installing fonts straight into it can cause biggy problems, so
big in fact that it becomes unusable and I have to drag a backup copy out
of the NAS to replace it.

My method of choice, particularly with an !effTTT coversion is to first
install it in ...Resources.!Fonts to test it out.

If it works okay, uninstall it from !Fonts then install it in EFP and see
what happens.
I have quite a number of Fonts (But only a few from effTT) that have to
remain in Fonts because installing them in EFP wrecks it.

And of course I must *never ever* attempt to use EFP in WYSIWYG display
mode.
That really is a disaster of the total kind.

Title    : Error from EasyFont PRO V5
Task     : EasyFont Pro
Message  : Error while redrawing at line 9515(Internal error: Abort on
data transfer at &038C81D8)

And on clearing the error message, EFP vanishes and thereafter is
unusable, until replaced with the backup NAS copy.

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid

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#6715

FromDave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Date2012-09-27 21:07 +0100
Message-ID<bbeeeed552.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
In reply to#6706
In message <ef88d8d552.jess@itworkshop.invalid>
          Jess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com> wrote:

>These are really nice, but would it be possible to have them installed 
>by riscpkg / Packman?
>
>Fonts would seem to be a really nice thing to manage that way.

Why on earth would you want to use a package manager to install a
font on RISC OS?

Dave

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#6725

FromJess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com>
Date2012-09-27 23:44 +0100
Message-ID<7b4dfdd552.jess@itworkshop.invalid>
In reply to#6715
In message <bbeeeed552.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
          Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

> Why on earth would you want to use a package manager to install a
> font on RISC OS?


Adding and removing them easily.

Not having to download them.

But more to the point, knowing they existed, if I didn't happen to 
have read the newsgroup.

-- 
Jess                   Iyonix

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#6729

FromChris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk>
Date2012-09-28 08:06 +0100
Message-ID<b63e2bd652.chris@o2.co.uk>
In reply to#6725
In message <7b4dfdd552.jess@itworkshop.invalid>
          Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:

> In message <bbeeeed552.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
>           Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

>> Why on earth would you want to use a package manager to install a
>> font on RISC OS?


> Adding and removing them easily.

Packaging would not help you remove them more easily

> Not having to download them.

You still download them if you use were to use a package manager!

> But more to the point, knowing they existed, if I didn't happen to
> have read the newsgroup.

Then you possibly only need to wait about 4 weeks for the new package 
from R-comp, it will be free I believe, Theo knows what I mean. :-)

This would at least solve your last point complete;y.


-- 
Chris Hughes

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#6737

FromJess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com>
Date2012-09-28 13:07 +0100
Message-ID<45d246d652.jess@itworkshop.invalid>
In reply to#6729
In message <b63e2bd652.chris@o2.co.uk>
          Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <7b4dfdd552.jess@itworkshop.invalid>
>           Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> In message <bbeeeed552.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
>>           Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

>>> Why on earth would you want to use a package manager to install a
>>> font on RISC OS?


>> Adding and removing them easily.

> Packaging would not help you remove them more easily

Why? It removes other things easily enough.

>> Not having to download them.

> You still download them if you use were to use a package manager!

No I don't. The package manager does it for me.

>> But more to the point, knowing they existed, if I didn't happen to
>> have read the newsgroup.

> Then you possibly only need to wait about 4 weeks for the new package
> from R-comp, it will be free I believe, Theo knows what I mean. :-)

> This would at least solve your last point complete;y.

I've heard of it, I hope it is compatible with the existing system.


-- 
Jess                   Iyonix

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#6727

FromTheo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date2012-09-28 00:27 +0100
Message-ID<n-u*7Gtgu@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
In reply to#6706
Jess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com> wrote:
> These are really nice, but would it be possible to have them installed 
> by riscpkg / Packman?

This is awkward, because PackMan currently has no means of running something
after the installation process.  That's necessary in the case of fonts to
regenerate the catalogue.  Installing fonts is something that would be
useful but needs more work to be seamless.

Theo

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#6730

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-09-28 09:45 +0100
Message-ID<52d6344f87dave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#6727
In article <n-u*7Gtgu@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
   Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Jess Hampshire <jesshampshire@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > These are really nice, but would it be possible to have them installed 
> > by riscpkg / Packman?

> This is awkward, because PackMan currently has no means of running
> something after the installation process.  That's necessary in the case
> of fonts to regenerate the catalogue.  Installing fonts is something
> that would be useful but needs more work to be seamless.

I made up some fonts, and not knowing how to put them in the proper
directory for installing, I simply plonked my directory inside !Fonts in
Resources and did a re-scan in Configuration. Seemed to work ok.

-- 
*Out of my mind.  Back in five minutes.

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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