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  Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> - 2012-04-23 22:25 +0100
    Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-23 23:36 +0100
      Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-04-24 08:58 +0100
        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-24 06:08 -0700
          Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-04-24 19:36 +0100
            Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-25 08:37 -0700
              Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-04-26 08:49 +0100
                Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-26 09:56 +0200
                Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-26 01:50 -0700
                  Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-26 14:21 -0700
                    Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-26 23:49 +0100
                      Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-27 00:57 -0700
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-27 10:08 +0100
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 10:18 +0100
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 09:26 +0000
                          Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-27 04:14 -0700
                            Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 14:45 +0000
                              Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 15:30 +0000
                                Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-27 20:24 +0100
                              Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 17:34 +0200
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-04-27 12:40 +0100
                          Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 13:50 +0200
                          Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-27 06:36 -0700
                            Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-04-27 20:47 +0100
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 13:33 +0100
                          Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-04-27 14:36 +0100
                            Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 16:19 +0100
                              Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-04-27 20:52 +0100
                                Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 23:46 +0100
                                  Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-28 00:00 +0100
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 14:49 +0200
                          Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 14:31 +0100
                            Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 17:26 +0200
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-27 22:17 +0100
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 23:13 +0100
                    Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-04-27 08:58 +0100
                    Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Tennant Stuart <tennant@orpheus.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 18:01 +0100
                      Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 18:28 +0100
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Tennant Stuart <tennant@orpheus.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 13:27 +0100
                          Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-04-29 13:53 +0100
                            Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Tennant Stuart <tennant@orpheus.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 23:36 +0100
                      Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-30 06:06 -0700
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 15:15 +0100
                        Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 15:59 +0100
                          Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-05-01 01:01 -0700
                            Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-05-01 10:24 +0100
                              Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-05-01 18:47 +0100
                                Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-05-01 23:27 +0100
                                Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-02 19:40 +0200
                    Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup John Kortink <kortink@inter.nl.net> - 2012-04-27 20:45 +0200
                    Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2012-04-26 23:06 +0100
                      Re: Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup ahodgkin@gmail.com - 2012-04-30 06:09 -0700

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#5088 — Acorn/Pace/ROOL Risc PC for sale - Cambridge or Wakefield pickup

Apologies for the blatant advert :-) but I'm listing my faithful old 
Risc PC on eBay and, given my history with Acorn, Pace and ROOL, U 
though this might be of interest to some of the collectors/enthusiasts 
that read c.s.a.misc.

  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261009722954

Since the machine is old and fragile, even though it has its original 
box, I don't want to ship it anywhere. Instead, I've listed it for 
collection from my home in Cambridge or, if the buyer wishes, I can 
bring it to the Wakefield show and you can pick it up from the ROOL 
stand. There are also a few other bits such as a third slice and 
various original software discs (but not much original packaging for 
that software unfortuntely due to a clearout a short while ago).

It's on a short 3-day auction, finishing at around 10:18pm on Thursday. 
That gives the buyer and I time to sort out collection details etc. 
before Wakefield.

It has an awful lot of 26-bit only software on it, so it's actually a 
very useful, productive machine; but I really need the space it was 
taking up and my Iyonix covers most of my ROOL etc. usage. I have VRPC 
for a few remaining 26-bit only utilities I need from time to time.

-- 
TTFN, Andrew Hodgkinson
Find some electronic music at:     Photos, wallpaper, software and more:
http://pond.org.uk/music.html                        http://pond.org.uk/

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#5089

In article <2012042322254050345-ahodgkin@rowingorguk>,
   Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> wrote:

> That gives the buyer and I time to sort out collection details etc. 
                          ^^^
                          me!
Alan

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#5092

In article <5285226227ajg@argonet.co.uk>,
   Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <2012042322254050345-ahodgkin@rowingorguk>,
>    Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> wrote:

> > That gives the buyer and I time to sort out collection details etc. 
>                           ^^^
>                           me!

The fightback has begun! ;-)

-- 
Dev

Om Namah Shivaya | Om Girishaya namaha

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#5097

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:58:29 AM UTC+1, Dev wrote:

> The fightback has begun! ;-)

Meanwhile, nobody noticed the "U" instead of "I" near the start of
my post. Got away with that one... ;-)

But anyway, feel free to bid!

-- 
TTFN, Andrew Hodgkinson
Find some electronic music at:     Photos, wallpaper, software and more:
http://pond.org.uk/music.html                        http://pond.org.uk/

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#5105

In article
<5697173.1147.1335272905601.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai3>,
   <ahodgkin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:58:29 AM UTC+1, Dev wrote:

> > The fightback has begun! ;-)

> Meanwhile, nobody noticed the "U" instead of "I" near the start of
> my post. Got away with that one... ;-)

Misread that as part of your downward spiral: Acorn, Pace, ROOL, U

> But anyway, feel free to bid!

;-)

-- 
Dev

Om Namah Shivaya | Om Vishnu-vallabhaya namaha

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#5126

On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:36:40 PM UTC+1, Dev wrote:

> Misread that as part of your downward spiral

Eh?

Anyway, if people are still interested - just the one bid so far, so it's looking like it could be something of a bargain basement price for whoever might be considering joining in with the auction.

-- 
TTFN, Andrew Hodgkinson
Find some electronic music at:     Photos, wallpaper, software and more:
http://pond.org.uk/music.html                        http://pond.org.uk/

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#5134

In article
<23428197.3355.1335368224991.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbxz8>,
   <ahodgkin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:36:40 PM UTC+1, Dev wrote:

> > Misread that as part of your downward spiral

> Eh?

Was not the great and awesome Acorn of blessed memory the pinnacle of
your career?

-- 
Dev

Om Namah Shivaya | Om Yagnya-mayaaya namaha

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#5135

In article <52865ca934spam-addy@no.spam.invalid>,
   Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> wrote:

> Was not the great and awesome Acorn of blessed memory the pinnacle of
> your career?

I guess that D thought the U was the continuation of a list of employers,
as did I on first read.

I don't think you need to waste your efforts worrying about it!

John

-- 
John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/

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#5136

On Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:49:38 AM UTC+1, Dev wrote:

> Was not the great and awesome Acorn of blessed memory the pinnacle of
> your career?

Oh, definitely not. I mean as a corporate entity, Acorn was a bit of a disaster, right? Hardly a shining example of commercial success in the twilight years when I was there.

I think it was amongst the most talented group of engineers and nicest people I've had the pleasure to work with, for sure. The work I did on the VideoCtrl stack was important as it set a pattern of proposing and developing larger scale component based software and developing a complete architectural overview of a bigger system.

In terms of personal achievements though, I think stuff I've since done either personally or as a contractor has been more important, far more widely used, better implemented - and better paid. Greater experience generates better software.

-- 
TTFN, Andrew Hodgkinson
Find some electronic music at:     Photos, wallpaper, software and more:
http://pond.org.uk/music.html                        http://pond.org.uk/

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#5144

Well, in the end it went for £51. Considering how many hours I spent cleaning it up and getting it in good condition for sale, my policy on all old Acorn kit is now as follows: Dump it in the skip.

It's not been a great week.

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#5146

In article
<14531363.1277.1335475278027.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndr30>,
   <ahodgkin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, in the end it went for £51. Considering how many hours I spent
> cleaning it up and getting it in good condition for sale, my policy on
> all old Acorn kit is now as follows: Dump it in the skip.

> It's not been a great week.

A short auction with a daytime midweek finish and collection only are all
limiting factors. And ignoring the history, it's not a particularly well
specced machine. As we all know they go on forever. ;-)

-- 
*Why do we say something is out of whack?  What is a whack?

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#5149

On Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:49:28 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> A short auction with a daytime midweek finish and collection only are all
> limiting factors.

After work midweek finishes are often recommended on eBay so I don't really buy (ho ho) that argument.

The collection issue is perhaps the main one, but then given how cheap the whole community seems to expect things to be now, a > £30 postage cost for a £51 pound item seems a bit ludicrous.

There's a 2-slot backplane on eBay for £12.99. I've seen Ethernet podules go for upwards of £17 just last week. Implication is it would've been cheaper to rip it apart and sell it for the parts. I could've sold things like Impression Publisher and the dongle for probably almost as much as the whole machine's gone for.

Then there's this news thread, most of which seems to consist of me trying to sell my old machine, hoping to make some money back, but which generated a stream of rather odd/aggressive replies some of which got rather personal.

> it's not a particularly well specced machine.

For a Risc PC, it's a well specified machine with some relatively unusual additions (MIDI card, working 486, Morley SCSI and spare third slice).

Anyway, like I say, lesson learned; there's no community interest and eBay isn't what it used to be. The poor guy who bid £50 was outbid by one other person at £51 with - and I was watching the auction countdown - ONE SECOND left to go. So that's just a cynical attempt to game the whole thing, snatch the auction from someone who had the guts to bid early and to make sure that the absolute bare minimum price was paid. So between this thread and that auction, there's a little bit of the modern day RISC OS community laid bare.

Such is life, and I'll be remembering that when I'm stood on the ROOL stand for several hours tomorrow getting paid nothing as usual for my efforts! So much for karma.

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#5151

In message <5505155.3336.1335513466633.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ 
yntt13>
          ahodgkin@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:49:28 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

>> A short auction with a daytime midweek finish and collection only are all
>> limiting factors.

> After work midweek finishes are often recommended on eBay so I don't
> really buy (ho ho) that argument.

> The collection issue is perhaps the main one, but then given how cheap
> the whole community seems to expect things to be now, a > £30 postage
> cost for a £51 pound item seems a bit ludicrous.

Yes , it does seem on occasions a bit hit and miss about what price 
you get for something and I'm sure a lot of luck is in there as well 
as to timing etc.

> There's a 2-slot backplane on eBay for £12.99. I've seen Ethernet
> podules go for upwards of £17 just last week. Implication is it
> would've been cheaper to rip it apart and sell it for the parts. I
> could've sold things like Impression Publisher and the dongle for
> probably almost as much as the whole machine's gone for.

Yes, sometimes people are just looking for something specific and I've 
seen StrongArm cards sell for far in excess of the cost of a RiscPC 
with one in.

[snip]

> Such is life, and I'll be remembering that when I'm stood on the ROOL
> stand for several hours tomorrow getting paid nothing as usual for my
> efforts! So much for karma.

Yes sometimes people forget the time and effort a lot of people put in 
to the RISC OS community often for free. I'm sure you'll a far more 
positive experience on Saturday and leave this episode behind.

ROOL and the rest of the individuals who continue to support RISC OS 
have done a great job over the past couple of years and without the 
likes of you then RISC OS would be confined to running as a wholly 
emulated OS so thanks for all your collective efforts.

-- 
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM, 
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.

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#5153

In article
<5505155.3336.1335513466633.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yntt13>,
   <ahodgkin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:49:28 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> > A short auction with a daytime midweek finish and collection only are
> > all limiting factors.

> After work midweek finishes are often recommended on eBay so I don't
> really buy (ho ho) that argument.

Fairy nuff. My experience (from a feedback base of around 800) is that a
Sunday finish at around 22.00 gives the best results. But then I don't do
much buying/selling of RISC OS things.   

> The collection issue is perhaps the main one, but then given how cheap
> the whole community seems to expect things to be now, a > £30 postage
> cost for a £51 pound item seems a bit ludicrous.

No reason it should cost anywhere near 30 quid to post. But then it gives
the choice of the whole country - not just those who live close to you  

> There's a 2-slot backplane on eBay for £12.99. I've seen Ethernet
> podules go for upwards of £17 just last week. Implication is it would've
> been cheaper to rip it apart and sell it for the parts. I could've sold
> things like Impression Publisher and the dongle for probably almost as
> much as the whole machine's gone for.

Well yes. Individual parts are always worth more than the sum. But these
will all be available by post.

> Then there's this news thread, most of which seems to consist of me
> trying to sell my old machine, hoping to make some money back, but which
> generated a stream of rather odd/aggressive replies some of which got
> rather personal.

Can't comment on that.

> > it's not a particularly well specced machine.

> For a Risc PC, it's a well specified machine with some relatively
> unusual additions (MIDI card, working 486, Morley SCSI and spare third
> slice).

A 486 card is 'worth' near zero. A 586, different. But either really just
a curiosity. And the same really with SCSI these days. And I say this as
one with two RPCs used all the time both with SCSI cards. Can't comment on
MIDI.

> Anyway, like I say, lesson learned; there's no community interest and
> eBay isn't what it used to be. The poor guy who bid £50 was outbid by
> one other person at £51 with - and I was watching the auction countdown
> - ONE SECOND left to go. So that's just a cynical attempt to game the
> whole thing, snatch the auction from someone who had the guts to bid
> early and to make sure that the absolute bare minimum price was paid. So
> between this thread and that auction, there's a little bit of the modern
> day RISC OS community laid bare.

Hmm. You seem to have missed the whole idea of Ebay. Perhaps you should
have listed it with a BIN, if you don't like auctions and what those
implie. 

> Such is life, and I'll be remembering that when I'm stood on the ROOL
> stand for several hours tomorrow getting paid nothing as usual for my
> efforts! So much for karma.

Think of the poor sods still trying to make a living out of RISC OS. ;-)

-- 
*Your kid may be an honours student, but you're still an idiot.

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#5154

On 27-Apr-2012, ahodgkin@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:49:28 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>
> > A short auction with a daytime midweek finish and collection only are
> > all limiting factors.
>
> After work midweek finishes are often recommended on eBay so I don't
> really buy (ho ho) that argument.
>
> The collection issue is perhaps the main one, but then given how cheap the
> whole community seems to expect things to be now, a > Ł30 postage cost for
> a Ł51 pound item seems a bit ludicrous.

Don't know where you get >30 GBP from. Carriage for that would have been
less than 10 GBP.

Whatever you might think the 'collection only' restriction would have been a
major factor. The cost of collecting from Cambridge, quite apart from the
time, meant that I didn't bother to bid (I would have been prepared to offer
more than the winning bid) and the wording seemed to indicate that you
wouldn't respond favourably to a message asking if you'd allow collection by
courier.

If you restrict your potential market and don't make it easy for customers
you must expect items to sell for less than their 'real' worth.

-- 
David Holden  -  APDL  -  <http://www.apdl.co.uk>

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#5158

On Friday, April 27, 2012 10:26:33 AM UTC+1, David Holden wrote:

> Don't know where you get >30 GBP from. Carriage for that would have been
> less than 10 GBP.

What?! Who with? Last time I posted a moderate sized package via Royal Mail recorded within the UK it cost somewhere around £8. I posted a couple of heavy books more recently for about £15. The boxed Risc PC with extra slice, floppy discs, documentation etc. is enormous, very heavy and fragile. I'd like to know who you'd trust to deliver it for a tenner, could be very useful for future reference.

> The cost of collecting from Cambridge, quite apart from the
> time, meant that I didn't bother to bid

So I take it you're not attending Wakefield, which was the other collection option and the whole reason for the short duration auction.

> (I would have been prepared to offer more than the winning bid)
> and the wording seemed to indicate that you  wouldn't respond
> favourably to a message asking if you'd allow collection by
> courier.

How so? You know me well enough from ROOL and newsgroups; shame you didn't consider contacting me and asking me to ship it then, citing your low postage costs.

Funny how often people say "I *would have* done <something financial>", without actually doing it ;-)

> If you restrict your potential market and don't make it easy for customers
> you must expect items to sell for less than their 'real' worth.

Yes, obviously the obstacles I put in place were insurmountable (!). Well, if there's anyone out there who wanted it - sadly for the sake of e-mailing me and asking about shipping, you might've missed out on getting the machine for - well, £52. Too late for both of us if that's the case. Wouldn't be too surprised to see the buyer list the machine on eBay next week if it's really capable of generating so much more income, as you imply.

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#5167

On 27-Apr-2012, ahodgkin@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, April 27, 2012 10:26:33 AM UTC+1, David Holden wrote:
>
> > Don't know where you get >30 GBP from. Carriage for that would have been
> > less than 10 GBP.
>
> What?! Who with?

Try www.parcel2go.co.uk. FedEx, DHL, Hermes, etc. If you're a real masochist
you can even book via Parcel Force.
>
> > The cost of collecting from Cambridge, quite apart from the
> > time, meant that I didn't bother to bid
>
> So I take it you're not attending Wakefield, which was the other
> collection option and the whole reason for the short duration auction.

No, I'm not.
>
> > (I would have been prepared to offer more than the winning bid)
> > and the wording seemed to indicate that you  wouldn't respond
> > favourably to a message asking if you'd allow collection by
> > courier.
>
> How so? You know me well enough from ROOL and newsgroups; shame you didn't
> consider contacting me and asking me to ship it then, citing your low
> postage costs.
>
> Funny how often people say "I *would have* done <something financial>",
> without actually doing it ;-)

Judging by your reaction to the various comments made here I see no reason
to suppose that my request  would have received a sympathetic reception.

Of course, after the event people often say they "would have" done
something......:-)

-- 
David Holden  -  APDL  -  <http://www.apdl.co.uk>

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#5170

On 27-Apr-2012, "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

> Try www.parcel2go.co.uk. FedEx, DHL, Hermes, etc. If you're a real
> masochist you can even book via Parcel Force.

Apologies. It's www.parcel2go.com. Alternatively www.p4d.co.uk.

-- 
David Holden  -  APDL  -  <http://www.apdl.co.uk>

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#5176

In article <9vvsdkFiujU1@mid.individual.net>, David Holden
<SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

> On 27-Apr-2012, "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

> > Try www.parcel2go.co.uk. FedEx, DHL, Hermes, etc. If
> > you're a real masochist you can even book via Parcel
> > Force.

> Apologies. It's www.parcel2go.com. Alternatively
> www.p4d.co.uk.

Yes, they are cheap.

Cost me around £15 last year to ship a misadressed delivery
of books and maps back to Austria (worth some ¤250 as I
recall).

BUT...

DHL failed to collect on the promised day, and on the
following day as well.

Finally collected three days late - the excuse was tht they
did not have time to pick up as promised.

What no one tells you, of course, is whether the real reason
is because DHL cannot afford to pick up from places a little
off the beaten track (6 miles from the A66) for the heavily
discounted price.

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#5171

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:45:03 GMT, "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> 
wrote:

> If you're a real masochist you can even book via Parcel Force.

*HELL* *NO*.

2002, bought an A3010 for cost of postage. Was basically because I 
wanted one of the mezzanine processor boards to play with. Was 
tracked all the way to Aldershot and then "lost" by their 
subcontractor. As it coincided with my move to France, some costly 
international phone calls got nowhere until they were absorbed back 
into the post office and I was told my parcel number was no longer 
valid.

**** them and **** the horse they rode in on; and I'm quite prepared 
to say that personally to whoever was the CEO at the time [*]. 
Customer service? Customercentric? Yeah, pull the other one (it has 
bells on)...


> Of course, after the event people often say they "would have" done
> something......:-)

As always. ;-)


Best wishes,

Rick.

* - as in: star-star-star-star you and star-star-star-star the horse 
you rode in on!
          <giggle>

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