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Exit desktop on Task Manager menu.

Started byPeter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk>
First post2012-03-13 20:25 +0000
Last post2012-03-20 12:34 +0000
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  Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 20:25 +0000
    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-13 21:55 +0000
      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 22:21 +0000
        Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-14 12:15 +1300
          Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-03-14 10:50 +0100
            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-14 10:07 +0000
              Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-15 01:40 +1300
                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 16:31 +0000
                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-14 20:12 +0000
                  Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 22:08 +0000
                    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-14 23:46 +0000
                      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-14 23:57 +0000
                        Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-03-15 00:59 +0000
                  Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-15 12:44 +1300
                    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-15 21:42 +0000
                      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-16 05:21 +0100
                        Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-16 23:49 +1300
                          Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-16 18:32 +0100
                            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-18 11:31 +1300
                              Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 00:35 +0100
                                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-18 22:08 +1300
                              Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-17 22:53 +0000
                                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 08:19 +0000
                              Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-18 08:39 +0000
                                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-18 22:40 +1300
                                  Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-18 10:32 +0000
                                    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Grahame Parish <spamtrap@millers-way.net> - 2012-03-18 12:10 +0000
                                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-19 10:24 +0000
                                  Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-03-20 01:00 +0000
            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-03-14 16:55 +0000
      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 09:06 +0000
    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 23:29 +0000
    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-14 01:00 +0000
      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-14 14:39 +1300
      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 19:18 +0000
        Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-15 00:57 +0000
          Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-16 12:03 +1300
            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-16 05:29 +0100
          Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-19 10:29 +0000
            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-19 15:41 +0000
            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-19 16:52 +0000
          Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-03-20 01:15 +0000
            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-20 23:26 +1300
            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-20 12:55 +0000
            Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 10:54 +0000
              Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 11:57 +0000
                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 13:16 +0000
              Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 12:12 +0000
                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Gransden <chrisg@care4free.net> - 2012-03-23 12:59 +0000
                  Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-03-23 18:13 +0100
                    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 18:50 +0100
                      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-03-24 09:42 +0100
                    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-23 17:53 +0000
                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 13:18 +0000
                  Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 14:03 +0000
                    Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 14:38 +0000
                      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 15:52 +0100
                        Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 11:43 +0000
                      Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 18:41 +0100
                        Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 11:40 +0000
                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-24 03:25 +1300
              Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-23 12:17 +0000
                Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-23 18:32 +0000
        Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-15 07:06 +0000
          Re: Exit desktop on Task Manager menu. Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-20 12:34 +0000

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#4580

FromRon <beeb@woosh.co.nz>
Date2012-03-24 03:25 +1300
Message-ID<cc7bfe7452.beeb@ron1954.woosh.co.nz>
In reply to#4570
In message <ant231215bc8pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
          Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> A task window has its benefits but one of the things I do about once a year,
> which wouldn't work in a task window is to spool out all the files on our
> main hard disc with:
> 
> *spool filelist
> *count share::FS.$.* r v
> *spool
> 
> with over 500,000 files on the drive  this takes about three hours at an F12
> prompt, in a task window it is much slower 12+ hours at a guess, it would
> also be larger than 28MB so would need an Iyonix with Aemulor off.
> 
> I then cut down the file into sections, which can be used to search for
> files that we've forgotten their location.
> 
> Using the filer file->Find is far to slow to be used on a drive with a lot
> of files.
> 
 
That's interesting, I was almost believing there wouldn't be much
difference.
I'd like to see a working 'Exit desktop'. It closes tasks and it's
possible you could rmkill more things for maximum reliability and
perhaps even more speed. Some crucial jobs can be interupted with
undesirable results when running in the desktop.
RISC OS has improved, but it is still possible to do conflicting
things that cause a crash, or major slowdown.

Ron M.

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#4572

FromDave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk>
Date2012-03-23 12:17 +0000
Message-ID<5274f2ba9ddave@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#4562
In article <6f2feb7452.jess@itworkshop.invalid>,
   Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In message <6faa2a7352.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>
>           Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:

> > Naked F12 is a pitfall for newcomers -- I well remember my own early
> > experience of hitting it by accident and now and then my wife does it
> > and then has to ask what happened and how to get back to normal.

> Why does it have to bring up a tiny line on the bottom?
> (I can imagine why it needed to in the past, but now?)

> A nice box in the middle of the screen would be better.

Then press Ctrl-F12

D.

-- 

Dave Triffid

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#4590

From"Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com>
Date2012-03-23 18:32 +0000
Message-ID<5275151f3asteve@revi11.plus.com>
In reply to#4572
In article <5274f2ba9ddave@triffid.co.uk>,
   Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <6f2feb7452.jess@itworkshop.invalid>,
>    Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > A nice box in the middle of the screen would be better.
>
> Then press Ctrl-F12

Or, *StartDesktopTask GOS

in a task window. I'm _still_ to see a compelling argument why normal users
would _ever_ need to use the ShellCLI (F12) or select "*Commands" or "Exit
desktop" from the switcher menu.

I can see quite a few reasons why these are either redundant or confusing to
the average user.

Remove them all! Mu, ha, ha, ha! :)

Ta,

Steve

-- 
Steve Revill @ Home
Note: All opinions expressed herein are my own.

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#4303

From"David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk>
Date2012-03-15 07:06 +0000
Message-ID<9sdin1Fp1aU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4293
On 14-Mar-2012, Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:

> OS 4.39 has "Choices..." on the Task Manager menu, which is sensible
> -- equivalent to and more obvious than doubleclicking $.!Boot -- but
> it would be handy if Adjust-click on Task Manager did that.

Later OS versions do.

-- 
David Holden  -  APDL  -  <http://www.apdl.co.uk>

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#4494

FromTim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
Date2012-03-20 12:34 +0000
Message-ID<527368cf62tim@invalid.org.uk>
In reply to#4303
In article <9sdin1Fp1aU1@mid.individual.net>, David Holden
<SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> wrote:

> On 14-Mar-2012, Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:

> > OS 4.39 has "Choices..." on the Task Manager menu, 

What's that? A misspelling of the word 'Configure'? Or is the 4.39 window
which opens headed 'Choices'?

> > which is sensible

meh

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