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  How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-08 15:57 +0000
    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2016-01-08 16:40 +0000
      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-09 11:10 +0000
    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-09 20:27 +0000
      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-10 18:06 +0000
        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-10 21:59 +0000
          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-10 23:00 +0000
            Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-10 23:05 +0000
              Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 09:03 +0000
                Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-11 13:53 +0000
                  Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 15:30 +0000
                    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-01-11 15:51 +0000
                      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-11 21:52 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-12 07:57 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-16 12:46 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-20 20:18 +0000
                          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-20 21:19 +0000
                          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-20 21:37 +0000
                            Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2016-01-21 00:13 +0000
                              Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-21 20:05 +0000
                  Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+16823@Torrens.org.uk> - 2016-01-24 12:39 +0000
                    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-24 22:37 +0000
                      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2016-01-24 23:14 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-24 23:22 +0000
                          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-25 11:25 +0000
                            Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-26 07:58 +0000
                      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+16825@Torrens.org.uk> - 2016-01-25 14:45 +0000
                        Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2016-01-25 15:14 +0100
                          Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-25 21:22 +0000
                    Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-01-26 14:37 +0000
                      Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-26 20:52 +0000
              Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-01-21 21:08 +0000
                Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2016-01-21 21:31 +0000
                Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-01-21 22:18 +0000
                Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-26 08:05 +0000
                  Re: How do you shutdown remote Raspberry Pi machine spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-28 08:07 +0000

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#13682

In article <71b24b4055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>,
   Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> >This one?
> >https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/2/topics/1845

> Yes.

I agree with Druck - I searched ROOL forums for a long time to find
anything relevannt.

Found this thread - and gave up because it's not evident that there is
such a list unless you read the whole thread!

So, please, please be a little more spoecific is any future reference to
the forums?

I think Druck, like me and many others, does not like forums...

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#13684

In message <5546f6bd7cnews*@Torrens.org.uk>
          "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+16823@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:

>In article <71b24b4055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>,
>   Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>> >This one?
>> >https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/2/topics/1845
>
>> Yes.
>
>I agree with Druck - I searched ROOL forums for a long time to find
>anything relevannt.
>
>Found this thread - and gave up because it's not evident that there is
>such a list unless you read the whole thread!
>
>So, please, please be a little more spoecific is any future reference to
>the forums?

When I re-read the thread before making my first posting, I decided
that there was sufficient discussion that it was better to refer
people to the thread rather than try to construct a recipe for
anyone to follow.  I still believe my decision was correct.

Dave

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#13685

Dave Higton  wrote

> In message <5546f6bd7cnews*@Torrens.org.uk>
>           "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+16823@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:

>>In article <71b24b4055.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>,
>>   Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>This one?
>>>>https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/2/topics/1845
>>
>>> Yes.
>>
>>I agree with Druck - I searched ROOL forums for a long time to find
>>anything relevannt.
>>
>>Found this thread - and gave up because it's not evident that there is
>>such a list unless you read the whole thread!
>>
>>So, please, please be a little more spoecific is any future reference to
>>the forums?

> When I re-read the thread before making my first posting, I decided
> that there was sufficient discussion that it was better to refer
> people to the thread rather than try to construct a recipe for
> anyone to follow.  I still believe my decision was correct.

I found the information in the thread interesting. It gave a context 
and encouraged me to download the new version. (I had wasted hours 
with previous versions.)
The latest version works for me without problems on all of my RISC OS 
machines.

-- 
John Rickman -  http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
Tout a �t� dit, mais comme personne n'�coute, il faut toujours 
r�p�ter.

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#13686

On 24/01/2016 23:14, John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
> I found the information in the thread interesting. It gave a context
> and encouraged me to download the new version. (I had wasted hours
> with previous versions.)
> The latest version works for me without problems on all of my RISC OS
> machines.

Details?

---druck

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#13688

In article <n83m70$g5$1@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk>
wrote:
> On 24/01/2016 23:14, John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
> > I found the information in the thread interesting. It gave a
> > context and encouraged me to download the new version. (I had
> > wasted hours with previous versions.) The latest version works
> > for me without problems on all of my RISC OS machines.

> Details?

It seems you and I Dave are on our own concerning the reliability of
the new vncserver release. I've given up on it. Unless someone can
write up in detail how a user can set it up with Avalanche (which is
pretty old software) on the latest RISC OS 5.23 releases in 16m colour
mode ensuring ARMv7 compatibility and good stability I'm not wasting any
more time on it.

Just to say - I have been able to get it to work but with too many
reliability issues. It's performance is inconsistent and I can't rely on
it.


Richard

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#13693

In article <554773cd1cbasura@invalid.addr.uk>,
   Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
> It seems you and I Dave are on our own concerning the reliability of
> the new vncserver release. I've given up on it. Unless someone can
> write up in detail how a user can set it up with Avalanche (which is
> pretty old software) on the latest RISC OS 5.23 releases in 16m colour
> mode ensuring ARMv7 compatibility and good stability I'm not wasting any
> more time on it.

I could have sworn I mentioned in the thread concerned the small issue with
keyboard/mouse refresh rate and stability, including the setting I changed
to improve things.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#13689

In article <507d2d4755.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>,
   Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> >So, please, please be a little more specific is any future reference to
> >the forums?

> When I re-read the thread before making my first posting, I decided
> that there was sufficient discussion that it was better to refer
> people to the thread rather than try to construct a recipe for
> anyone to follow.  I still believe my decision was correct.

You may well be correct ... point is, Forum threads can get very messy.
I've not yet met a forum that has the same sort of sub-threading that e.g.
Pluto has.

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#13690

"Richard Torrens (News)" wrote:
> Dave Higton wrote:
> > > So, please, please be a little more specific is any future reference
> > > to the forums?

> > When I re-read the thread before making my first posting, I decided that
> > there was sufficient discussion that it was better to refer people to
> > the thread rather than try to construct a recipe for anyone to follow.
> > I still believe my decision was correct.

> You may well be correct ... point is, Forum threads can get very messy.
> I've not yet met a forum that has the same sort of sub-threading that e.g.
> Pluto has.

However, in this case that particular forum thread has only 3 pages
and the link to the item in question is easily found on the first.
-- 
Stewart Goldwater
http://janusg.co.nr

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#13691

In message <gemini.o1ii840005h7e02d4.nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>
          SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>"Richard Torrens (News)" wrote:
>> Dave Higton wrote:
>> > > So, please, please be a little more specific is any future reference
>> > > to the forums?
>
>> > When I re-read the thread before making my first posting, I decided that
>> > there was sufficient discussion that it was better to refer people to
>> > the thread rather than try to construct a recipe for anyone to follow.
>> > I still believe my decision was correct.
>
>> You may well be correct ... point is, Forum threads can get very messy.
>> I've not yet met a forum that has the same sort of sub-threading that e.g.
>> Pluto has.
>
>However, in this case that particular forum thread has only 3 pages
>and the link to the item in question is easily found on the first.

Er - no.  I don't think you have read all of the thread.

Dave

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#13694

In article <5546f6bd7cnews*@Torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (News)
<News+16823@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> I think Druck, like me and many others, does not like forums...

<aol>
I hate them too.
</aol>

I visit such linear fora only if someone posts a direct link to a message
they want me to read (hint, hint!).

As only an occasional visitor, I find forums very akin to trying to find
something in a four-drawer filing cabinet with badly-named folders. Not
having a go at ro.o because I find this of every non-threaded forum I
have ever looked at.

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#13695

In message <55480931b2tim@invalid.org.uk>
          Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

>In article <5546f6bd7cnews*@Torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (News)
><News+16823@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:
>
>[Snip]
>
>> I think Druck, like me and many others, does not like forums...
>
><aol>
>I hate them too.
></aol>
>
>I visit such linear fora only if someone posts a direct link to a message
>they want me to read (hint, hint!).
>
>As only an occasional visitor, I find forums very akin to trying to find
>something in a four-drawer filing cabinet with badly-named folders. Not
>having a go at ro.o because I find this of every non-threaded forum I
>have ever looked at.

I referred the OP to a named thread in a threaded forum.  Several
postings in the thread gave valuable information.

I don't want Tim's posting to give a bad impression of the forum
in question.

Dave

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#13663

On 10/01/2016 23:05, Dave Higton wrote:

[VNC Server]

> Please read the thread.

Read the thread, installed the new version, not impressed.

I've tried the VNC server on both the Iyonix and Raspberry Pi, in 256 
and 16M colour modes. I've tried connecting to them using various 
different VNC clients on Linux, Windows and RISC OS, and gone through a 
whole host of options.

No combination is anything approaching usable.

Most of the clients will connect and after several seconds show the RISC 
OS desktop in either 256 or 16M colours, but attempting to do anything 
is impossibly slow. It's also one shot, as after you've disconnected, it 
doesn't reconnect.

This is with all machines connected to the same fast gigabit switch. 
Where as I can VNC and RDP in to boxes at work over fibre broadband and 
hardly notice I'm working remotely, even with the old 5Mb/s ADSL it was 
still usable.

Given the simplicity of RISC OS's limited number of graphics APIs it's 
inexcusable that there isn't a decent implementation of a VNC server, or 
preferably RDP which is a far superior protocol.

---druck

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#13664

In article <n7rh6r$eu2$1@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk>
wrote:
> On 10/01/2016 23:05, Dave Higton wrote:

> [VNC Server]

> > Please read the thread.

> Read the thread, installed the new version, not impressed.

> I've tried the VNC server on both the Iyonix and Raspberry Pi, in
> 256 and 16M colour modes. I've tried connecting to them using
> various different VNC clients on Linux, Windows and RISC OS, and
> gone through a whole host of options.

I've played around with it but without success but only RISC OS to
RISC OS. Dave must have luck on his side.

> Most of the clients will connect and after several seconds show the
> RISC OS desktop in either 256 or 16M colours, but attempting to do
> anything is impossibly slow. It's also one shot, as after you've
> disconnected, it doesn't reconnect.

I confirm. You have to re-initialise the vncserver on the remote
machine which is quite tricky to do when you have no monitor
connected.

> Given the simplicity of RISC OS's limited number of graphics APIs
> it's inexcusable that there isn't a decent implementation of a VNC
> server, or preferably RDP which is a far superior protocol.

Are you volunteering to make a super-duper client/vncserver combo,
where we can do anything that we do on our normal desktop but remotely
and at high speed and reliably? Good man?

Richard

-- 
Regards

Richard Ashbery
U3A Astronomy Group
(Joint Group Leader with Sue Whibley)

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#13665

In message <n7rh6r$eu2$1@dont-email.me>
          druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

>On 10/01/2016 23:05, Dave Higton wrote:
>
>[VNC Server]
>
>> Please read the thread.
>
>Read the thread, installed the new version, not impressed.
>
>I've tried the VNC server on both the Iyonix and Raspberry Pi, in 256 
>and 16M colour modes. I've tried connecting to them using various 
>different VNC clients on Linux, Windows and RISC OS, and gone through a 
>whole host of options.
>
>No combination is anything approaching usable.

Works for me, Avalanche on RISC OS and Remmina on Linux.

>Most of the clients will connect and after several seconds show the RISC 
>OS desktop in either 256 or 16M colours, but attempting to do anything 
>is impossibly slow. It's also one shot, as after you've disconnected, it 
>doesn't reconnect.

Works for me.  I've just tried yet another connection to the server,
to which I've connected numerous times since this thread started;
it's still up.  I don't know what you guys are doing wrong.

>This is with all machines connected to the same fast gigabit switch. 
>Where as I can VNC and RDP in to boxes at work over fibre broadband and 
>hardly notice I'm working remotely, even with the old 5Mb/s ADSL it was 
>still usable.
>
>Given the simplicity of RISC OS's limited number of graphics APIs it's 
>inexcusable that there isn't a decent implementation of a VNC server, or 
>preferably RDP which is a far superior protocol.

I agree RDP is much better.  We also have a RISC OS RDP client, which
I've used with a Linux box, so I think we can consider the client to
be successful.  So are you volunteering to write the server?

Dave

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#13692

In message <n7rh6r$eu2$1@dont-email.me>
 on 21 Jan 2016 druck  wrote:

> On 10/01/2016 23:05, Dave Higton wrote:
> 
> [VNC Server]
> 
> > Please read the thread.
> 
> Read the thread, installed the new version, not impressed.
> 
> I've tried the VNC server on both the Iyonix and Raspberry Pi, in 256 
> and 16M colour modes. I've tried connecting to them using various 
> different VNC clients on Linux, Windows and RISC OS, and gone through a 
> whole host of options.
> 
> No combination is anything approaching usable.
> 
> Most of the clients will connect and after several seconds show the RISC 
> OS desktop in either 256 or 16M colours, but attempting to do anything 
> is impossibly slow. It's also one shot, as after you've disconnected, it 
> doesn't reconnect.

I don't think I had problems with the failure to reconnect, but I did find
the performance slow.

The main points I took from the thread on the forum are:

* 256 colours will be faster than 16-bit or 24-bit colour modes.

* It helps a lot if the mouse movements are rate-limited. Not sure if this
  is a client option.

VNC server from:
http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/riscos/vnc_serv.php

Front end from:
http://www.steve-potts.me.uk/software.html#vnc

If there are any other tips, I've missed them.  I tried a few days ago when
this thread got going, with the VNC server running on the ARMX6 and a client
running on Linux.  The mouse movements were quite sluggish, but I hadn't
tried the rate limiting.

I'll give it another go and see if I can get it more useable.

I also had a go using it on the Beagleboard and something (maybe the front
end?) complained that the RISC OS version was not supported.  This put an
error box up and required me to click with the mouse to dismiss the error,
after which the VNC server worked fine.  I'd have to sort out that error if I
was going to run the Beagleboard without a mouse or keyboard and run the VNC
server on boot!

-- 
Matthew Phillips
Durham

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#13705

In article <ee51e54755.Matthew@sinenomine.freeserve.co.uk>,
   Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> It helps a lot if the mouse movements are rate-limited. Not sure if this
>   is a client option.

That was where I set it.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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