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Moving ISP

Started by"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
First post2012-09-03 09:56 +0100
Last post2012-09-28 13:28 +0100
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  Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 09:56 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-03 10:13 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 11:16 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-03 12:32 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:39 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-03 16:08 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:16 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:13 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:37 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:50 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-09-06 10:06 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-09-11 13:14 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 20:03 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-03 18:26 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-09-03 11:41 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 13:43 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 14:08 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Derek.Moody" <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> - 2012-09-03 19:33 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:22 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Derek.Moody" <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> - 2012-09-03 23:45 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 08:00 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 10:42 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 11:24 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 12:13 +0100
                    Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 13:55 +0100
                      Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 16:07 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-04 11:23 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 13:53 +0100
                    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 20:23 +0100
                      Re: Moving ISP druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 21:24 +0100
                        Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 23:19 +0100
                        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 07:46 +0100
                      Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-04 23:16 +0100
                    Re: Moving ISP Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:10 +0100
                      Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 14:12 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-04 17:53 +0100
                    Re: Moving ISP Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:14 +0100
                      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 14:19 +0100
                        Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 18:12 +0100
                        Re: Moving ISP John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 20:45 +0100
                          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:47 +0100
                            Re: Moving ISP cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-09-06 10:10 +0100
                              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-06 10:23 +0100
                        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 17:50 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:46 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 21:14 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-09-04 10:15 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:21 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-03 23:20 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 22:36 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:57 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 20:39 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 22:05 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-09-03 22:39 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-03 22:46 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-03 23:08 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-09-03 23:02 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 10:15 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-05 11:06 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 11:16 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 11:47 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:06 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 22:15 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:14 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 23:49 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-06 08:02 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 12:11 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-09-09 20:11 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-09 21:12 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 10:17 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-10 17:39 +0100
                    Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-11 07:54 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-09-05 13:33 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:25 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP (OT) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-09 12:41 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-09-09 13:12 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-10 18:50 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-10 20:56 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP (OT) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:05 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP (OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:20 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP (OT) Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-10 22:23 +0000
                    Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-11 07:13 +0100
                      Re: Moving ISP (OT) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-11 12:31 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-11 00:47 +0100
                    Re: Moving ISP (OT) Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-09-11 07:14 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-09-11 06:47 +0000
                  Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-11 10:28 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP (OT) Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-09-11 16:14 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-12 18:58 +0100
                    Re: Moving ISP (OT) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-09-12 19:32 +0100
                      Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-13 00:38 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP (OT) Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2012-09-10 19:28 +0100
                  Re: Moving ISP (OT) "Felicity S." <Flcty@rdsqurrl.com> - 2012-09-12 18:55 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP (OT) Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-09-09 17:49 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-05 17:51 +0100
    Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-21 14:44 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-21 15:40 +0100
      Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-21 19:28 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 09:43 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-09-22 10:37 +0100
        Re: Moving ISP NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-09-22 10:10 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 13:13 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:09 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:59 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-22 14:21 +0100
          Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-27 20:00 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2012-09-27 21:01 +0100
            Re: Moving ISP NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-09-28 10:27 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 11:34 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-28 12:59 +0100
              Re: Moving ISP Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-28 13:02 +0100
                Re: Moving ISP "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 13:28 +0100

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#6364

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-09-05 23:47 +0100
Message-ID<52caa94063dave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#6360
In article <mpro.m9w6w2000aocr04ss.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>,
   John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:
> > Just to clarify, do they install a fibre link to my house? Think
> > Virgin does - I have their cabling in this street. Or is it just so
> > far and use the existing cable?
> > 
> Virgin use fibre to the cabinet, the broadband and tv is a coaxial cable
> from cabinet to the house not fibre.

Right. I obviously can't tell the difference between fibre and co-ax. ;-)

-- 
*The severity of the itch is proportional to the reach *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#6372

Fromcferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid
Date2012-09-06 10:10 +0100
Message-ID<8e39e2ca52.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
In reply to#6364
In message <52caa94063dave@davenoise.co.uk>
          "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <mpro.m9w6w2000aocr04ss.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>,
>    John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:
>>> Just to clarify, do they install a fibre link to my house? Think
>>> Virgin does - I have their cabling in this street. Or is it just so
>>> far and use the existing cable?
>>> 
>> Virgin use fibre to the cabinet, the broadband and tv is a coaxial cable
>> from cabinet to the house not fibre.

> Right. I obviously can't tell the difference between fibre and co-ax. ;-)

What does a fibre cable look like - 1 glass tube or multiple tubes- 
surrounded by a protective outer?

-- 
Colin Ferris Cornwall UK

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#6373

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-09-06 10:23 +0100
Message-ID<52cae36bf2dave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#6372
In article <8e39e2ca52.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>,
   <cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid> wrote:
> > Right. I obviously can't tell the difference between fibre and co-ax. ;-)

> What does a fibre cable look like - 1 glass tube or multiple tubes- 
> surrounded by a protective outer?

The stuff I've seen is pretty similar to co-ax from the outside, ie round.
But then some twisted pair is round too. So I'd say the only way to be
sure is to strip it back, if there's nothing labelled on the outside.

-- 
*Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#6367

Fromspampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com>
Date2012-09-05 17:50 +0100
Message-ID<52ca887f95spam.pling@btinternet.com>
In reply to#6356
In article <52ca75293edave@davenoise.co.uk>,
   Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> Just to clarify, do they install a fibre link to my house? Think Virgin
> does - I have their cabling in this street. Or is it just so far and use
> the existing cable?

That depends. In some exchanges the fibre used is BT Openreach installed,
wholesale managed, Virgin marketed and providing a service to Virgin
customers to link into Virgin equipment.
Others it may be Virgin kit and cable all the way to your premises.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#6415

FromRussell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Date2012-09-11 16:46 +0100
Message-ID<52cd99a3e7see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
In reply to#6318
In article <ant040909b49pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>, Chris
Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:

> Anyone know of any other ISP that does not require
> Authenticated SMTP?

Phone Coop certainly, at least on my account.

And, I believe, Orpheus.

When I did some tests back in 2009, Orpheus did not even
seem capable of doing SMTP Authentication.

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#6333

Fromdruck <news@druck.org.uk>
Date2012-09-04 21:14 +0100
Message-ID<k25ne8$1ue$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#6316
On 04/09/2012 08:00, spampling wrote:
> Now that the BT period (to keep the phone number I've always had, but
> Talk Talk wouldn't release to anyone but back to BT) has ended I can
> look at Plusnet or similar (BT by a different name)

BT might own PlusNet, but they are a completely separate ISP, and 
comparing my experience against BT customers, a far far better one. I 
use them for both Internet and phone service now, and have no complaints.

---druck

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#6317

FromM Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk>
Date2012-09-04 10:15 +0100
Message-ID<52c9db0bb3riscos@mdharding.org.uk>
In reply to#6314
In article <ant032235868BxcK@strongarm.half-baked-idea.co.uk>,
   Derek.Moody <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> wrote:
> In article <52c99f480fspam.pling@btinternet.com>, spampling
> <URL:mailto:spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > In article <ant0318521cbBxcK@strongarm.half-baked-idea.co.uk>,
> > Derek.Moody
> > <derek.moody@casterbridge.net> wrote:
> > > Choose an ISP who will let you connect your existing router to
> > > their network then just change the provider settings on the
> > > router to suit. 
> > 
> > Like BT? The router BT supplied is currently sitting in its box
> > behind me.

> So you are locked in for a minimum term (or pay an early
> termination fee) in order to 'pay' for the bit of kit you never
> use..?

> If you are out of the minimum period, when you leave BT, you might
> like to try unlocking the home-hub; a search will provide details,
> difficulty depends on version, to create a more useable spare
> router.

Thanks for that information, I didn't realise it was possible - I have
their original stored in the loft . . 

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding   riscos@mdharding.org.uk

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#6312

Fromspampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com>
Date2012-09-03 23:21 +0100
Message-ID<52c99f242dspam.pling@btinternet.com>
In reply to#6296
In article <52c96a3d38dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
   Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> Right. That doesn't fill me with confidence. ;-)

Not difficult confiog really.

> Trouble is I've got 2 RPCs, 2 PC desktops, and a TV all cabled to the
> router. And two laptops on wireless. All of which (apart from the TV) I
> can transfer data between easily.

See my other posts.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#6310

Fromspampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com>
Date2012-09-03 23:20 +0100
Message-ID<52c99f0697spam.pling@btinternet.com>
In reply to#6289
In article <52c95f1aberiscos@mdharding.org.uk>,
   M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
> The only weird problem I had, is that BT later on demanded that I
> authenticate every one of my email names, yet for some obscure reason
> the page for this (using Windows XP) was blank in both Firefox and IE.
> No technical adviser could sort it out over a number of days and in
> desperation I migrated from BT whose contract was soon to expire.

I wrote a front end for popstar to solve that. I suppose I could have
phoned and asked for what now exists - a working web front end.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#6362

FromJim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk>
Date2012-09-05 22:36 +0100
Message-ID<6dbfa2ca52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>
In reply to#6289
M Harding  wrote on 3 Sep:
> The only weird problem I had, is that BT later on demanded that I
> authenticate every one of my email names ...

Haven't had that problem here (and I use many different email aliases 
for specific purposes).

But reminds me to mention that if you use Netfetch (or Hermes) it's 
worth configuring more than one SMTP server.  You might have several 
that you are entitled to use:  the one at your ISP for sure, but if 
you have a web domain hosted somewhere, that host probably offers SMTP 
service too.  Configure each of them ready for use, so that if your 
usual one goes down you can simply select an alternative from the 
dropdown menu in "Netsurf choices > Account > SMTP server".

-- 
Jim Nagel                        www.archivemag.co.uk

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#6417

FromRussell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Date2012-09-11 16:57 +0100
Message-ID<52cd9aa998see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
In reply to#6362
In article <6dbfa2ca52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> M Harding  wrote on 3 Sep:
> > The only weird problem I had, is that BT later on
> > demanded that I authenticate every one of my email names
> > ...

> Haven't had that problem here (and I use many different
> email aliases for specific purposes).

> But reminds me to mention that if you use Netfetch (or
> Hermes) it's worth configuring more than one SMTP server.
> You might have several that you are entitled to use: the
> one at your ISP for sure, but if you have a web domain
> hosted somewhere, that host probably offers SMTP service
> too.  Configure each of them ready for use, so that if
> your usual one goes down you can simply select an
> alternative from the dropdown menu in "Netsurf choices >
> Account > SMTP server".

And you can do it with POPStar too, though it is a bit of a
hack and so it takes me about 10 s to switch.

I have posted the trick here before, and could do so again
if there is interest.

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#6423

Fromspampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com>
Date2012-09-11 20:39 +0100
Message-ID<52cdaf0a1fspam.pling@btinternet.com>
In reply to#6417
In article <52cd9aa998see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
   Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> And you can do it with POPStar too, though it is a bit of a
> hack and so it takes me about 10 s to switch.

Much quicker if you write a bit of BASIC to sort the mail into appropriate
directories (which it creates from the details in the envelope files) and
then switches from user to user to post any content in the directory
structure created.
Being BASIC I see no reason it wouldn't work on all machines including the
new tranche.

> I have posted the trick here before, and could do so again
> if there is interest.

I've mentioned the BASIC app  before, no surge of interest yet.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#6305

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-09-03 22:05 +0100
Message-ID<52c998393fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#6286
In article <52c95573badave@davenoise.co.uk>,
   Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> So after a quick bit of research I'm moving to BT, as I already have a
> landline phone with them which I want to keep.

If it's not too late, BT don't have particularly good ratings for customer
satisfaction.

Plusnet, who, incidentally, are also part of BT have much better ratings.

-- 
Stuart Winsor

Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org


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#6306

FromChris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com>
Date2012-09-03 22:39 +0100
Message-ID<52c99b4d32cvjazz@waitrose.com>
In reply to#6305
In article <52c998393fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
   Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <52c95573badave@davenoise.co.uk>,
>    Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > So after a quick bit of research I'm moving to BT, as I already have a
> > landline phone with them which I want to keep.

> If it's not too late, BT don't have particularly good ratings for customer
> satisfaction.

> Plusnet, who, incidentally, are also part of BT have much better ratings.

I may need to change my ISP soon & have been looking at Which magazine and
canvassing advice amongst acquaintances. PlusNet comes out pretty well. Also
recommended by Andrew Rawnsley of R-Comp.

Cheers,

-- 
Chris Newman

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#6307

FromFolderol <folderol@ukfsn.org>
Date2012-09-03 22:46 +0100
Message-ID<20120903224656.4c169421@debian>
In reply to#6306
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:39:25 +0100
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <52c998393fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
>    Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <52c95573badave@davenoise.co.uk>,
> >    Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > > So after a quick bit of research I'm moving to BT, as I already have a
> > > landline phone with them which I want to keep.
> 
> > If it's not too late, BT don't have particularly good ratings for customer
> > satisfaction.
> 
> > Plusnet, who, incidentally, are also part of BT have much better ratings.
> 
> I may need to change my ISP soon & have been looking at Which magazine and
> canvassing advice amongst acquaintances. PlusNet comes out pretty well. Also
> recommended by Andrew Rawnsley of R-Comp.
> 
> Cheers,

I've been using ukfsn for years. They are not the cheapest, and they expect
their customers to have a little grey matter between their ears, but I've found
them very reliable.

-- 
Will J G

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#6308

FromAlan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>
Date2012-09-03 23:08 +0100
Message-ID<gemini.m9so5c00wdz2a01d0.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk>
In reply to#6306
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> I may need to change my ISP soon & have been looking at Which magazine and
> canvassing advice amongst acquaintances. PlusNet comes out pretty well.
> Also recommended by Andrew Rawnsley of R-Comp.

I don't recall ever hearing a bad word said about PlusNet. They even post
here sometimes IIRC. The only thing that would worry me is that they're
owned by BT.

I've been with Andrews & Arnold for ten years now. Not the cheapest but if
you want rock-solid reliability from people who know what they're doing...

I've never had cause to complain about any aspect of their service, ever.
And unlike some ISPs that grind to a halt when too many people are online at
the same time, A&A provide a good contention ratio which means my speed
seems to be pretty constant at most times.

Alan

-- 
RISC OS - you know it makes cents

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#6309

FromChris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>
Date2012-09-03 23:02 +0100
Message-ID<52c99d717cchrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>
In reply to#6305
In article <52c998393fSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
   Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Plusnet, who, incidentally, are also part of BT have much better
> ratings.

There actually seem to be quite a number of PlusNet subscribers on
the various Acorn newsgroups and maillists (including myself).

-- 
Chris Johnson

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#6343

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-09-05 10:15 +0100
Message-ID<52ca5edc29dave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#6286
Got my MAC from TalkTalk, so it's going ahead. (They called it a MAC code
in the email header. ;-))

I didn't want to start the usual debate about which ISP is best - I
actually found Pipex and its later owners OK in general, as I don't make
vast demands on it. BT are giving me a better deal, and all my family are
with them with no complaints. In other words I'm not willing to pay extra
for possibly things I'll not use or need.

All I really wanted was to know any gotchas when setting it up with the
Acorn side.

-- 
*This message has been ROT-13 encrypted twice for extra security *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#6344

FromBrian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk>
Date2012-09-05 11:06 +0100
Message-ID<0c8c63ca52.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net>
In reply to#6343
On 5 Sep, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> Got my MAC from TalkTalk, so it's going ahead. (They called it a MAC code
> in the email header. ;-))

> I didn't want to start the usual debate about which ISP is best - I
> actually found Pipex and its later owners OK in general, as I don't make
> vast demands on it. BT are giving me a better deal, and all my family are
> with them with no complaints. In other words I'm not willing to pay extra
> for possibly things I'll not use or need.

> All I really wanted was to know any gotchas when setting it up with the
> Acorn side.

There may be a simpler answer, depending on whether your existing 
router is locked down to TalkTalk or not.

If it isn't, once your BT service goes live you just need to log in to 
your existing router and change the broadband username/password to 
something along the lines of firstname.lastname@btbroadband.com for 
the username, and Any0ldRubb1sh for the password. No other 
configuration changes should be necessary, unless any of the settings 
that follow are different...

VPI -  0
VCI - 38
Encapsulation - PPPoA (PPP over ATM)
Multiplexing - VC-Mux or VC Based

Assuming this works, your existing network settings will do just fine, 
TYVM.

Only gotcha is that if you need tech support, they will probably ask 
you to connect up the BT Home Hub, so don't flog it on any well-known 
auction sites...
-- 
Brian Howlett - email to From: address deleted unseen
----------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not telling you who I work for - in any case, there's no way
anything posted (or mailed!) by me can be attributed to them....

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#6345

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-09-05 11:16 +0100
Message-ID<52ca6478dfdave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#6344
In article <0c8c63ca52.Brian@bhowlett.plus.net>,
   Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
> > All I really wanted was to know any gotchas when setting it up with the
> > Acorn side.

> There may be a simpler answer, depending on whether your existing
> router is locked down to TalkTalk or not.

No. It's a wireless Billion bought from CJE, IIRC. Can be accessed using
Fresco.

> If it isn't, once your BT service goes live you just need to log in to
> your existing router and change the broadband username/password to
> something along the lines of firstname.lastname@btbroadband.com for
> the username, and Any0ldRubb1sh for the password. No other
> configuration changes should be necessary, unless any of the settings
> that follow are different...

> VPI -  0
> VCI - 38
> Encapsulation - PPPoA (PPP over ATM)
> Multiplexing - VC-Mux or VC Based

> Assuming this works, your existing network settings will do just fine,
> TYVM.

> Only gotcha is that if you need tech support, they will probably ask
> you to connect up the BT Home Hub, so don't flog it on any well-known
> auction sites...

I was hoping the home hub, being several years newer, might have a better
performance? Are you saying it can't be set to what I want?  And can my existing router work with fibre? (I've not seen how it's done)

--
*A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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