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Android email and Pluto

Started by"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
First post2012-08-14 10:35 +0100
Last post2012-08-15 09:32 +0100
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  Android email and Pluto "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-14 10:35 +0100
    Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-14 11:39 +0100
      Re: Android email and Pluto Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-08-14 15:06 +0100
        Re: Android email and Pluto Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2012-08-15 07:33 +0100
          Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 08:01 +0100
            Re: Android email and Pluto Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2012-08-15 09:59 +0100
              Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 18:43 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-15 20:02 +0100
                  Re: Android email and Pluto John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 20:14 +0100
                    Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-15 21:09 +0100
                      Re: Android email and Pluto John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-08-16 17:14 +0100
                        Re: Android email and Pluto Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 13:37 +0100
                          Re: Android email and Pluto Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 14:00 +0100
                            Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 15:21 +0100
                              Re: Android email and Pluto Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 15:37 +0100
                                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 13:28 +0100
                          Re: Android email and Pluto John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 17:33 +0100
                            Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 21:12 +0100
                              Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-18 12:02 +0100
                      Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 20:58 +0100
                        Re: Android email and Pluto M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-08-20 10:22 +0100
                          Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 22:16 +0100
                  Re: Android email and Pluto Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-15 20:49 +0100
                  Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 22:47 +0100
                    Re: Android email and Pluto Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-15 23:01 +0100
                      Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-15 23:44 +0100
                  Re: Android email and Pluto Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-15 23:58 +0100
                  Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-16 07:29 +0100
                  Re: Android email and Pluto Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-08-16 10:35 +0100
                    Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-16 11:49 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2012-08-16 09:21 +0100
            Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-15 10:53 +0100
              Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 18:36 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-16 22:54 +0100
                  Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 07:56 +0100
                    Re: Android email and Pluto Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 11:14 +0100
                      Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-17 13:18 +0100
                    Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-17 14:03 +0100
                      Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-18 19:04 +0100
                        Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 09:39 +0100
                          Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-19 15:57 +0100
                            Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 21:53 +0100
                              Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-19 22:35 +0100
                                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 23:29 +0100
                                Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2012-08-20 21:01 +0100
                            Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 15:41 +0100
                        Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-08-19 10:11 +0100
                          Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 14:40 +0100
                          Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 15:57 +0100
                        Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 10:23 +0100
                          Re: Maillist servers - (was Android email and Pluto) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 16:00 +0100
                    Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-18 17:13 +0100
                      Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 09:20 +0100
                        Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 11:57 +0100
                        Re: Android email and Pluto Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 13:55 +0100
                          Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 21:04 +0100
                            Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-20 09:06 +0100
                              Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-21 20:39 +0100
                              Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2012-08-21 22:48 +0100
                                Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 06:36 +0100
                                  Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-22 22:43 +0100
                                    Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-23 06:22 +0100
                                      Re: Android email and Pluto Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-08-23 07:57 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-23 08:25 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-08-23 10:13 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-23 14:11 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2012-08-23 20:55 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-24 07:52 +0100
                                            Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-24 09:24 +0100
                                            Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-25 10:24 +0100
                                              Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-25 11:12 +0100
                                                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-25 19:54 +0100
                                                  Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-26 07:57 +0100
                                                    Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-08-26 10:32 +0100
                                                      Re: Android email and Pluto Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-08-26 15:48 +0100
                                                      Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-27 08:07 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto workstuff@mail.com - 2012-09-19 22:28 +0200
                                      Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 10:49 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 14:37 +0100
                                      Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 10:59 +0100
                                      Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-23 22:09 +0100
                                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 08:57 +0100
                                  Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-22 17:28 +0100
                                    Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 20:27 +0100
                                      Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-23 08:30 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-08-23 11:15 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-08-23 12:38 +0100
                                            Re: Android email and Pluto NedA <news@ned.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-23 15:35 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-23 15:20 +0100
                              Re: Android email and Pluto "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 10:05 +0100
                                Re: Android email and Pluto Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 10:09 +0000
                                  Re: Android email and Pluto Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 11:54 +0100
                                    Re: Android email and Pluto charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 12:09 +0100
                                      Re: Android email and Pluto Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 12:23 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Grahame Parish <maillist.parish@millers-way.net> - 2012-08-22 12:51 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 15:33 +0100
                                            Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-25 16:39 +0100
                                              Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-27 10:32 +0100
                                                Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-27 11:54 +0100
                                                  Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-27 12:07 +0100
                                                    Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-27 13:40 +0100
                                            Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-02 12:49 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-08-25 14:44 +0100
                                      Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 13:52 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 17:51 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-22 19:40 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 20:47 +0200
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-08-26 22:44 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-27 00:01 +0100
                                            Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-27 08:14 +0100
                                              Re: Android email and Pluto charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-08-27 10:14 +0100
                                                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-27 13:12 +0100
                                              Re: Android email and Pluto John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-08-27 10:22 +0100
                                                Re: Android email and Pluto spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> - 2012-08-27 13:13 +0100
                                                  Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-27 16:11 +0100
                                                Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-08-27 16:06 +0100
                                                  Re: Android email and Pluto Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-09-02 16:21 +0100
                                    Re: Android email and Pluto "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 12:45 +0100
                                      Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-22 22:32 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-08-22 23:05 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 10:42 +0100
                                        Re: Android email and Pluto Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-08-23 10:15 +0100
                                          Re: Android email and Pluto Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-08-23 12:20 +0100
                Re: Android email and Pluto Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 20:08 +0100
          Re: Android email and Pluto Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-08-15 09:32 +0100

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#6264

FromJohn Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk>
Date2012-08-27 13:40 +0100
Message-ID<mpro.m9ez7l000dzf604c4.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>
In reply to#6262
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <mpro.m9eubg000nefl056g.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>, John
> Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:
> > Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <mpro.m9bi5o0008u1x02mk.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>, John
> > > Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:
> > > > Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > > > > I still can't work out how, even as an admin user on everything, I
> > > > > can stop this stupidity in Windows7: 1. Within a 'Save As..'
> > > > > dialogue box, I attempt to save a file to NAS. 2. Error! You need
> > > > > to ask an administrator to do that. 3. Mutter to self: "May I save
> > > > > a file? Yes I may." 4. Close the error box. 5. Click the Save OK
> > > > > button again. 6. Do you want to overwrite a file of the same name?
> > > > > (WTF?) Yes. 7. The file is saved. (NB both 'copies' of the same
> > > > > file are created during the second - the successful - save
> > > > > operation.)
> > > > Classic decktop http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/
> > > Thanks for that. Sadly, 'more details' is a 503 at the moment.
> > > 
> > works for me at 11:53. I've been using it for 2 weeks no problems yet.
> 
> Ah yes, working now.
> 
> I am sure it's great but seems to be a revival of old start menu
> paradigms: I don't see that it claims to fix problems of needing multiple
> clicks to save a file to NAS from a program's save box. I'm happy with the
> Win7 start button as it is. How is this relevant?
> 
Changes the overwrite window to the xp style yes or no, more option hidden,
never had a problem saving files to my nas so can't test that problem.
You dont have to change the start button, does other stuff.

John

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#6278

FromJess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com>
Date2012-09-02 12:49 +0100
Message-ID<3173e1c852.jess@itworkshop.invalid>
In reply to#6244
In message <52c4d1c33atim@invalid.org.uk>
          Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

>  Aero's great but
> don't forget to make sure the filing system works properly and it doesn't
> make Windows look stupid and broken out of the box. Derr.

Apparently Microsoft think it's dated and cheesy now.

"This style of simulating faux-realistic materials (such as glass or 
aluminum) on the screen looks dated and cheesy now, but at the time, 
it was very much en vogue."

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/18/creating-the-windows-8-user-experience.aspx

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#6243

FromTim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
Date2012-08-25 14:44 +0100
Message-ID<52c4cd4bc6tim@invalid.org.uk>
In reply to#6197
In article <52c334e725alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder
<alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> I have 'fond' memories of the days when we used to get serious upgrades
> to RISC OS and all the scrabbling around that used to be done to get
> all our programs and devices working happily again!

I am reminded of RISC OS 5.18 and EasyFontPro. Not that long ago.

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#6200

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-08-22 13:52 +0100
Message-ID<52c33d0df5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#6196
In article <52c3339de0charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>,
   charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I think that Vista was disliked because  when it was released there were
> virtually no drivers for most of the externals on the market. I know of
> one print shop who had new PCs installed and were out of business for
> over two weeks  since they couldn't 'talk' to their printers

Printing is one of the issues that concerns me.

I have a Canon S4500 photoreal inkjet which I bought from Spacetech years
ago and I've not been able to confirm the availability of drivers.

My Dell laser will be fine and if I had to replace my scanner it wouldn't
be a particularly big deal but an A3 inkjet is a different issue.

Apparently W7 pro, which I have ordered, has some sort of XP emulation
mode so I am hopeful

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#6201

Fromcharles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>
Date2012-08-22 17:51 +0100
Message-ID<52c352e2c8charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>
In reply to#6200
In article <52c33d0df5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>,
   Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <52c3339de0charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>,
>    charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > I think that Vista was disliked because  when it was released there were
> > virtually no drivers for most of the externals on the market. I know of
> > one print shop who had new PCs installed and were out of business for
> > over two weeks  since they couldn't 'talk' to their printers

> Printing is one of the issues that concerns me.

> I have a Canon S4500 photoreal inkjet which I bought from Spacetech years
> ago and I've not been able to confirm the availability of drivers.

> My Dell laser will be fine and if I had to replace my scanner it wouldn't
> be a particularly big deal but an A3 inkjet is a different issue.

> Apparently W7 pro, which I have ordered, has some sort of XP emulation
> mode so I am hopeful

yes it has an XP emulator - or to me more exact it runs XP in an emulation
mode.  I had to use that to keep my scanner running - until one for W7
appeared.

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#6203

FromJohn Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk>
Date2012-08-22 19:40 +0100
Message-ID<mpro.m966kb000kcu5057k.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>
In reply to#6200
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <52c3339de0charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>,
>    charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > I think that Vista was disliked because  when it was released there were
> > virtually no drivers for most of the externals on the market. I know of
> > one print shop who had new PCs installed and were out of business for
> > over two weeks  since they couldn't 'talk' to their printers
> 
> Printing is one of the issues that concerns me.
> 
> I have a Canon S4500 photoreal inkjet which I bought from Spacetech years
> ago and I've not been able to confirm the availability of drivers.

The printer may work (50/50) at a basic level, but the software that came
with it almost certainly will not.

> My Dell laser will be fine and if I had to replace my scanner it wouldn't
> be a particularly big deal but an A3 inkjet is a different issue.

Look up VueScan (about 25 ukp)this will drive most scanners,( Used on my
Epsom perfection 650) (film scanner attachements will need the Pro version.)
 
> Apparently W7 pro, which I have ordered, has some sort of XP emulation
> mode so I am hopeful

Needs downloading. 
mostly seems to need Win 7 drivers to operate attached devices.

VMware player is a better bet as this grabs the device away from Windows 7.

John 
 


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#6204

From"John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>
Date2012-08-22 20:47 +0200
Message-ID<52c35d823aUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>
In reply to#6203
In article <mpro.m966kb000kcu5057k.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>,
   John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:

> Used on my Epsom perfection

I expect that's a typo for Epson - Epsom is races or salts.

John

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#6253

FromJohn <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2012-08-26 22:44 +0100
Message-ID<52c57d1d73newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
In reply to#6200
In article <52c33d0df5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> Apparently W7 pro, which I have ordered, has some sort of
> XP emulation mode so I am hopeful

I seem to remember reading that when XP is run in such a
way, it needs to have its own internet security software
installed. It doesn't piggy-back on the security installed
on Win 7 Pro. It might be worth checking on this yourself,
Stuart, don't just take my word for it.

John

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#6254

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-08-27 00:01 +0100
Message-ID<52c58425edSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#6253
In article <52c57d1d73newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>,
   John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> I seem to remember reading that when XP is run in such a
> way, it needs to have its own internet security software
> installed. It doesn't piggy-back on the security installed
> on Win 7 Pro. It might be worth checking on this yourself,
> Stuart, don't just take my word for it.

Thanks for that.

Maybe Steve P knows for certain and can advise

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#6257

Fromspampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com>
Date2012-08-27 08:14 +0100
Message-ID<52c5b13edbspam.pling@btinternet.com>
In reply to#6254
In article <52c58425edSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
   Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <52c57d1d73newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>,
>    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> > I seem to remember reading that when XP is run in such a
> > way, it needs to have its own internet security software
> > installed. It doesn't piggy-back on the security installed
> > on Win 7 Pro. It might be worth checking on this yourself,
> > Stuart, don't just take my word for it.

> Thanks for that.

> Maybe Steve P knows for certain and can advise

XP emulation mode / compatibility mode isn't XP.
If it were then MS would need to continue support for XP.
Can't comment much.
We have minimal W7 installs at present (national apps haven't been built
for W7 *) plus the fact I spend most of my time looking at command line
stuff in switches.

*Which for any rational being would have them look closely at building them
to run on an open source OS. They won't of course.

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Steve Pampling

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#6258

Fromcharles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>
Date2012-08-27 10:14 +0100
Message-ID<52c5bc4993charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>
In reply to#6257
In article <52c5b13edbspam.pling@btinternet.com>,
   spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In article <52c58425edSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
>    Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <52c57d1d73newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>,
> >    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> > > I seem to remember reading that when XP is run in such a
> > > way, it needs to have its own internet security software
> > > installed. It doesn't piggy-back on the security installed
> > > on Win 7 Pro. It might be worth checking on this yourself,
> > > Stuart, don't just take my word for it.

> > Thanks for that.

> > Maybe Steve P knows for certain and can advise

> XP emulation mode / compatibility mode isn't XP.


It IS XP. I had to down load a copy of XP to get the facility.

> If it were then MS would need to continue support for XP.

why?

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#6267

Fromspampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com>
Date2012-08-27 13:12 +0100
Message-ID<52c5cc8846spam.pling@btinternet.com>
In reply to#6258
In article <52c5bc4993charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>,
   charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> It IS XP. I had to down load a copy of XP to get the facility.

We play with the enterprise version - stuff is there.

The first time I did a head banging session with XP was on a non-enterprise
version with various bits just missing. "pagefileconfig.vbs" comes to mind

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#6259

FromJohn Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk>
Date2012-08-27 10:22 +0100
Message-ID<mpro.m9eq1d000jvm902b0.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>
In reply to#6257
spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:

> In article <52c58425edSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
>    Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <52c57d1d73newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>,
> >    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > > I seem to remember reading that when XP is run in such a way, it needs
> > > to have its own internet security software installed. It doesn't
> > > piggy-back on the security installed on Win 7 Pro. It might be worth
> > > checking on this yourself, Stuart, don't just take my word for it.
> 
> > Thanks for that.
> 
> > Maybe Steve P knows for certain and can advise
> 
> XP emulation mode / compatibility mode isn't XP. If it were then MS would
> need to continue support for XP. Can't comment much. We have minimal W7
> installs at present (national apps haven't been built for W7 *) plus the
> fact I spend most of my time looking at command line stuff in switches.

There's no support for XP mode after 2014 same as normal XP.
Microsoft recommend using their Security Essentials software for virus
protection which is free.

> *Which for any rational being would have them look closely at building
> them to run on an open source OS. They won't of course.
> 

John
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#6266

Fromspampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com>
Date2012-08-27 13:13 +0100
Message-ID<52c5cca6e9spam.pling@btinternet.com>
In reply to#6259
In article <mpro.m9eq1d000jvm902b0.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>,
   John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:
> Microsoft recommend using their Security Essentials software for virus
> protection which is free.

and slows the machine down atrociously. Then again. that's why everyone
buys faster processor kit - to keep the AV fast.

-- 

Steve Pampling

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#6269

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-08-27 16:11 +0100
Message-ID<52c5dcecb6Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#6266
In article <52c5cca6e9spam.pling@btinternet.com>,
   spampling <spam.pling@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In article <mpro.m9eq1d000jvm902b0.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>,
>    John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:
> > Microsoft recommend using their Security Essentials software for virus
> > protection which is free.

> and slows the machine down atrociously. Then again. that's why everyone
> buys faster processor kit - to keep the AV fast.

I know.

I press the start button on my Kinetic and within moments I'm doing stuff.

My wife presses the start button on her PC, goes off and has breakfast and
reads the paper and if she hasn't rushed her breakfast the PC is just
about ready to do something.

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#6268

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-08-27 16:06 +0100
Message-ID<52c5dc7800Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#6259
In article <mpro.m9eq1d000jvm902b0.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>,
   John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:
> There's no support for XP mode after 2014 same as normal XP.
> Microsoft recommend using their Security Essentials software for virus
> protection which is free.

Moved to that for my wife's XP machine a while back. Spyware doctor and
AVG antvirus don't get along with each other anymore and I hoped that
going to one unified /free/ solution might even speed things up a bit.

In a way it's academic since her new 3GHz i5 pentium machine with 8G of
RAM should arive sometime this week from Eclipse computers.

-- 
Stuart Winsor

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#6281

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-09-02 16:21 +0100
Message-ID<52c8f4d5caSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#6268
In article <52c5dc7800Spambin@argonet.co.uk>,
   Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In a way it's academic since her new 3GHz i5 pentium machine with 8G of
> RAM should arive sometime this week from Eclipse computers.

It has now arived and, I have to admit, is pretty quick. She can now watch
iplayer full screen in HD without any issues. Now I have problems
accessing printers from the RPC because her machine is used as a print
server. I have access from my XP PC but not from RISC OS.

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#6198

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-08-22 12:45 +0100
Message-ID<52c336e707dave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#6195
In article <52c3323345alan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
   Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> The Windows PC sitting next to my RPC went from a W98SE box to one
> running Vista Home.  Compared with W98 Vista was delight and with an
> update to the excellent Lanman98 connection between my various devices
> proceeded smoothly.  So it has gone on and I haven't found Vista causing
> me any problems - mind you, as I said, I don't demand much of it beyond
> the WIMP.

I'd agree Vista is probably better than Win98 - but then so it should be,
given the vast time between them. However, I'd guess you would have a
different view if you'd 'upgraded' from XP.   

> Yes, I've used XP - ran the school networks on it for years.  Seemed OK
> but fundamentally no different from Vista that I can see.  Maybe it's
> because I've set all the Classic settings I can find in Vista?

It kept on telling me 'you can't do this' when I knew I could. Like some
crotchety maiden aunt.

-- 
*For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
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#6206

FromRussell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Date2012-08-22 22:32 +0100
Message-ID<52c36cad6esee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
In reply to#6198
In article <52c336e707dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman
(News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> I'd agree Vista is probably better than Win98 - but then
> so it should be, given the vast time between them.
> However, I'd guess you would have a different view if
> you'd 'upgraded' from XP.   

There is one area (at least) where 98 has it for me over XP
- accessing the serial port.

Many years ago I bought a box that can be programmed to
divert incoming phone calls to different phones on the basis
of their CLI.

This box (obviously) needs to be programmed with a list of
numbers that goes to port 2, while other go to port 1.

The software that came with the box was written in visual
basic and works fine on 98 - I think it was still 95 when it
was written.

The software runs fine under XP and even 7, allowing me to
edit the phone numbers and so on - except that under XP and
7 it will not talk to the box.

Googling for help finally told me that from XP software has
been banned from directly addressing the serial port (which
is how the box connects to the computer).

So I need to keep an ancient laptop running 98 to deal with
this task.

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#6208

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2012-08-22 23:05 +0100
Message-ID<52c36faffddave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#6206
In article <52c36cad6esee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
   Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> Googling for help finally told me that from XP software has
> been banned from directly addressing the serial port (which
> is how the box connects to the computer).

I have a MegaSquirt fuel injection ECU on the old car and the tuning
software for that communicates via the serial port. As do most of these
aftermarket ECUs. Works under '98 through to W7. Of course most laptops
these days need a USB to serial adaptor.
 Think with XP (or perhaps older) I had to install Hyper Terminal first.
But that might have been with the earlier different tuning software.

-- 
*Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things? *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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