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  Wakefield (second attempt) Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-05-02 12:15 +0100
    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-02 13:19 +0100
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-05-02 14:08 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-04 23:20 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 05:23 +0200
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-05 21:13 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-05-05 10:26 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 12:10 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-05-05 12:31 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:03 +0100
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:14 +0100
    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 16:51 +0100
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 18:57 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-05-03 20:08 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Thomas Milius <Thomas-Milius@t-online.de> - 2012-05-03 21:46 +0200
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Thomas Milius <Thomas-Milius@t-online.de> - 2012-05-03 22:04 +0200
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-05-04 16:48 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-05-03 21:22 +0200
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-05-04 09:20 +0100
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 12:11 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-05 12:39 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:01 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-05 13:18 +0100
              Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-12 11:34 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 12:31 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:32 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:43 +0100
              Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 15:06 +0100
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-05 15:23 +0100
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 16:41 +0100
                  Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 18:59 +0200
                    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-05-06 11:28 +0100
                      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-05-06 14:58 +0100
                  Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-05-06 15:04 +0100
                    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-06 20:00 +0200
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 18:50 +0200
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 19:43 +0100
              Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 15:18 +0100
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 15:48 +0100
                  Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 17:54 +0100
                  Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-12 12:12 +0100
                    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-12 22:05 +0100
                      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-05-13 06:53 +0100
                      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-13 13:14 +0200
                      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-15 11:40 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 16:36 +0100
              Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-12 11:54 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 18:28 +0200
    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 17:36 +0100

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#5364

In message <faa9118b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>
          Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

> So does this Tablet come with Google Play?
> Some comments on this thread indicate it does and doesn't,maybe from
> those who actually haven't got the device?
> On the linkhttp://riscos.blog.com/2012/04/22/behold-the-r-comp-tablet/
> it just says :
> ”Our setup work ensures you‘ll be able to access a range of
> downloadable ”apps•, books and movies from the Google Store, or via
> Amazon‘s Kindle marketplace."

> Google Store is :
> http://www.google-store.com/google/webcontents/default.aspx
> Not for Android Tablets!

> I like to get the majority of apps via Google Play.
> If Google Play is not available then the wording needs changing.What
> is Google Store?
>  At least use the correct names.
> I don't always want to sideload apps.
> The virus side and protection is vital if downloading from other '
> store's '
> It's just sloppy marketing and misleading for some?
> You could spend a little more money and buy a different Android
> Tablet?
> Regards

If this device is the Scroll Options Extreme, which has Ice Scream 
sandwich AKA Android 4.0 as its OS installed, then it will not have 
set up and built in by default access to the Google play store.

http://www.storageoptions.com/products/scroll/tablets/scroll-extreme

"Due to licence restrictions, Scroll Extreme cannot officially be used 
to access the Android Marketplace. However applications can be 
downloaded from the SlideME market place and a number of other free 
App Stores"

This does not mean that you can't install the Google Play application 
, as I have done on the earlier Scroll Excel that runs Gingerbread AKA 
Android 2.3.

I expect the Google Play application may be part of the RComp 
customisation though as ever rather than speculate the best thing is 
to ask.

The other thing to note is that some applications like Kobo eReader 
can think a device is hacked/rooted and will not work but the Aldiko 
eReader used Adobe verification allows you to download and read any 
books rather well.

http://www.aldiko.com/


Doug


-- 
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM, 
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.

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#5366

In message <4e38148b52.dougjwebb@doug.j.webb.btinternet.com>
          Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

> If this device is the Scroll Options Extreme, which has Ice Scream
> sandwich AKA Android 4.0 as its OS installed, then it will not have
> set up and built in by default access to the Google play store.

> http://www.storageoptions.com/products/scroll/tablets/scroll-extreme

> "Due to licence restrictions, Scroll Extreme cannot officially be used
> to access the Android Marketplace. However applications can be
> downloaded from the SlideME market place and a number of other free
> App Stores"

I suspect from the latest reviews this is now out of date, since 
Android Market was replaced by Google Play. Since users are saying 
they can now access and download from Google Play without issue.

> This does not mean that you can't install the Google Play application
> , as I have done on the earlier Scroll Excel that runs Gingerbread AKA
> Android 2.3.

> I expect the Google Play application may be part of the RComp
> customisation though as ever rather than speculate the best thing is
> to ask.

It is.

> The other thing to note is that some applications like Kobo eReader
> can think a device is hacked/rooted and will not work but the Aldiko
> eReader used Adobe verification allows you to download and read any
> books rather well.

> http://www.aldiko.com/

Interesting.

I will soon find out when one arrives here!


-- 
Chris Hughes
Sorry you have missed the Wakefield Show now.
http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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#5369

In message <ec3c168b52.chris@o2.co.uk>
          Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:


[snip]


>> "Due to licence restrictions, Scroll Extreme cannot officially be used
>> to access the Android Marketplace. However applications can be
>> downloaded from the SlideME market place and a number of other free
>> App Stores"

> I suspect from the latest reviews this is now out of date, since
> Android Market was replaced by Google Play. Since users are saying
> they can now access and download from Google Play without issue.

My Scroll Excel didn't come with Marketplace and I just downloaded and 
run the required apk file to get it installed. Once installed it gave 
me access to all the Marketplace applications and then got auto 
updated to Play.

Good news if out of the box restrictions have been taken away as this 
forum posting implies.

"Go into apps (the four squares, top right of the home screen)
 Open the "Scroll Apps" application
 Open the menu (which is the 3 vertical dots.. fourth icon along from 
the bottom left of the screen)
 Choose "Setting" (spanner icon)
 Under "Share" choose "More Applications"
 You will get a pop up with "Complete action using", choose Play 
Store
 This will start the Play Store app where you can sign into your 
account, download apps etc."


[snip]


>> http://www.aldiko.com/

> Interesting.

> I will soon find out when one arrives here!


Let us know then as the Scroll Excel we have here is good apart from 
some lip sync issues when using iPlayer.

-- 
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM, 
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.

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#5494

In article <aac5178b52.dougjwebb@doug.j.webb.btinternet.com>, Doug Webb
<doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

[Snip]

> My Scroll Excel didn't come with Marketplace and I just downloaded and
> run the required apk file to get it installed. Once installed it gave
> me access to all the Marketplace applications and then got auto
> updated to Play.

Reading that has prompted me to try Play Store on the Scroll Extreme
again...it's working. Well blow me down with a feather.

[Snip]

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#5365

In message <faa9118b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>
          Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

> So does this Tablet come with Google Play?

Yes!

> Some comments on this thread indicate it does and doesn't,maybe from
> those who actually haven't got the device?
> On the linkhttp://riscos.blog.com/2012/04/22/behold-the-r-comp-tablet/
> it just says :
> ”Our setup work ensures you‘ll be able to access a range of
> downloadable ”apps•, books and movies from the Google Store, or via
> Amazon‘s Kindle marketplace."

Google have been rebranding a lot of stuff of late.

> Google Store is :
> http://www.google-store.com/google/webcontents/default.aspx

That one is for the USA market not UK.

> Not for Android Tablets!

> I like to get the majority of apps via Google Play.

Its available.

> If Google Play is not available then the wording needs changing.What
> is Google Store?

Fine, why not actually email the company concerned and point out the 
mistake.  Like I have just done since you can't.

>  At least use the correct names.
> I don't always want to sideload apps.
> The virus side and protection is vital if downloading from other '
> store's '

Google Play is no more secure then any of the others.

> It's just sloppy marketing and misleading for some?

No, its a simple human mistake. It happens in the rush and run up to a 
major show. Do you want to run a show?

> You could spend a little more money and buy a different Android
> Tablet?

You can spend a lot if you want but this one gets very good reviews.


-- 
Chris Hughes
Sorry you have missed the Wakefield Show now.
http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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#5370

In message <4183138b52.chris@o2.co.uk>
          Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <faa9118b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>
>           Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

>> So does this Tablet come with Google Play?

> Yes!
That's all I wanted to clarify.
>> Some comments on this thread indicate it does and doesn't,maybe from
>> those who actually haven't got the device?
>> On the linkhttp://riscos.blog.com/2012/04/22/behold-the-r-comp-tablet/
>> it just says :
>> ”Our setup work ensures you‘ll be able to access a range of
>> downloadable ”apps•, books and movies from the Google Store, or via
>> Amazon‘s Kindle marketplace."

> Google have been rebranding a lot of stuff of late.
Yes,fully aware of that as a very happy Android user.
>> Google Store is :
>> http://www.google-store.com/google/webcontents/default.aspx

> That one is for the USA market not UK.
Yes.But the term Google Store is used in the text in the article.
>> Not for Android Tablets!

>> I like to get the majority of apps via Google Play.

> Its available.
Great.
>> If Google Play is not available then the wording needs changing.What
>> is Google Store?

> Fine, why not actually email the company concerned and point out the
> mistake.  Like I have just done since you can't.
Mmm.That wording was by Rcomp in the email digest link I got and the 
link at the top of this page.
>>  At least use the correct names.
>> I don't always want to sideload apps.
>> The virus side and protection is vital if downloading from other '
>> store's '

> Google Play is no more secure then any of the others.
Mmmm.Maybe?
>> It's just sloppy marketing and misleading for some?

> No, its a simple human mistake. It happens in the rush and run up to a
> major show. Do you want to run a show?
Could be a mistake.
Not really,not my choice.Yours and good luck to you.Well done.
But don't tell a customer to run a show, or similar do you ask a 
customer to run a shop?
Unbelievable!
You are selling a product and you want people to buy it?
However I only found out from another review and link from ebuyer that 
the tablet doesn't run Google Play,thus my original query.
>> You could spend a little more money and buy a different Android
>> Tablet?

> You can spend a lot if you want but this one gets very good reviews.

I have done.Thank you very much and look forward to upgrading to 
another Android product HTC One X or Galaxy III.
What reviews?
Has the RComp one been reviewed yet?
No.
That's why originally I wanted to know what brand Tablet this was so I 
could make that choice and it was revealed on here what is was or have 
an idea what it may be?
Not even any information on the Rcomp website?
So can pick it up around £170 from ebuyer.com hence why would I buy it 
from Rcomp for more?



-- 
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#5371

In article <9115198b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>,
   Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:


> Has the RComp one been reviewed yet?

I'm at present writing one for Archive


> So can pick it up around £170 from ebuyer.com hence why would I buy it 
> from Rcomp for more?

1. It's £179.98

2. R-Comp have added extra software (yes, which you could yourself, if you
had the inclination and technical know-how) to allow it to work seamlessly
with the Iyonix and also allowing access to Googlestore - which it does.

-- 
From KT24 

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 

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#5372

In message <528b1a1758charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>
          charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <9115198b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>,
>    Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:


>> Has the RComp one been reviewed yet?

> I'm at present writing one for Archive


>> So can pick it up around £170 from ebuyer.com hence why would I buy it
>> from Rcomp for more?

> 1. It's £179.98
Yes,oops £9.98 out
> 2. R-Comp have added extra software (yes, which you could yourself, if you
> had the inclination and technical know-how) to allow it to work seamlessly
> with the Iyonix and also allowing access to Googlestore - which it does.

What technical know how?

You see an app you like click on install and its done from wherever 
this may be market,store,play,getjar?

Thats the point with Android and iOS, you install and use and 
uninstall frequently too!

These apps are free and infact probably need updating as soon as you 
switch it on.
But I guess you need email support for updating it and technical know 
how,no doubt.Oh dear...
So you pay £80 extra for the privilege?
More money than sense?
I'm all for buying and supporting companies but have bought specific 
software or stuff which needed specific drivers written for RiscOS.

You plug the item into the Iyonix and it shows up as a drive.
Simples.



-- 
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www.flickr.com/photos/httpflickrcomphotosbrian

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#5374

In message <caab218b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>
          Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <528b1a1758charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>
>           charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> In article <9115198b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>,
>>    Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> 
>> 2. R-Comp have added extra software (yes, which you could yourself, if you
>> had the inclination and technical know-how) to allow it to work seamlessly
>> with the Iyonix and also allowing access to Googlestore - which it does.

> What technical know how?

Well the same level of expertise that was needed to help people set up 
Freeview and such. Just because you may be technical astute don't 
think others are and hence why there are whole industries offering 
paid for help.

> You see an app you like click on install and its done from wherever
> this may be market,store,play,getjar?

> Thats the point with Android and iOS, you install and use and
> uninstall frequently too!

> These apps are free and infact probably need updating as soon as you
> switch it on.
> But I guess you need email support for updating it and technical know
> how,no doubt.Oh dear...
> So you pay £80 extra for the privilege?
> More money than sense?
> I'm all for buying and supporting companies but have bought specific
> software or stuff which needed specific drivers written for RiscOS.

Well I assume you won't be coming here for any free help then if/when 
you get stuck then.

Some people go for the bottom line and others pay a premium for a 
package including a more personal level of support and the knowledge 
that they can call upon it.

Neither is right or wrong as long as people understand what they are 
paying for and are happy with their personal choice.

-- 
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM, 
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.

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#5377

In message <caab218b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>
          Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <528b1a1758charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>
>           charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> In article <9115198b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>,
>>    Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:


>>> Has the RComp one been reviewed yet?

>> I'm at present writing one for Archive


>>> So can pick it up around £170 from ebuyer.com hence why would I buy it
>>> from Rcomp for more?

>> 1. It's £179.98
> Yes,oops £9.98 out

It was £199 early last week

>> 2. R-Comp have added extra software (yes, which you could yourself, if you
>> had the inclination and technical know-how) to allow it to work seamlessly
>> with the Iyonix and also allowing access to Googlestore - which it does.

> What technical know how?

> You see an app you like click on install and its done from wherever
> this may be market,store,play,getjar?

> Thats the point with Android and iOS, you install and use and
> uninstall frequently too!

> These apps are free and infact probably need updating as soon as you
> switch it on.

Not all apps are free.

> But I guess you need email support for updating it and technical know
> how,no doubt.Oh dear...

Phone, email support etc.,

> So you pay £80 extra for the privilege?

Time cost money! or do you work for free? and it was only £60 
difference initially.

> More money than sense?

You have if paying for a more expensive HTC piece of kit etc.... :-)

> I'm all for buying and supporting companies but have bought specific
> software or stuff which needed specific drivers written for RiscOS.

RiscOS is not same as RISC OS as has been pointed out dozens of times 
its a different operating system.

> You plug the item into the Iyonix and it shows up as a drive.
> Simples.

Not all of them do this. So we know who to come too now for free help!




-- 
Chris Hughes
Sorry you have missed the Wakefield Show now.
http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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#5382

On Sat, 05 May 2012 16:41:46 +0100, Chris Hughes 
<news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> RiscOS is not same as RISC OS as has been pointed out dozens of 
times 
> its a different operating system.

I wouldn't split hairs - I can point you to places in the source (and 
probably a bunch of magazine articles) that write it CamelCase-like.

Given where we are, it's a reasonable assumption that "RiscOS" == 
"RISC OS", and not a MIPS reworking of SystemV that is actually 
correctly written as "RISC/os" (note case and slash).


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#5386

On 05/05/2012 17:59, Rick Murray wrote:
> Given where we are, it's a reasonable assumption that "RiscOS" == "RISC
> OS", and not a MIPS reworking of SystemV that is actually correctly
> written as "RISC/os" (note case and slash).

Yes riC |<mrr@y.

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#5387

In message <jo5jp6$2rq$1@dont-email.me>
     druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

> On 05/05/2012 17:59, Rick Murray wrote:
> > Given where we are, it's a reasonable assumption that "RiscOS" == "RISC
> > OS", and not a MIPS reworking of SystemV that is actually correctly
> > written as "RISC/os" (note case and slash).
> 
> Yes riC |<mrr@y.

No! That OS is riC|< m|_|rr@y.

Get it right.

-- 
Fred

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#5388

In article <db682a8b52.chris@o2.co.uk>,
   Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <caab218b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>
>           Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> > I'm all for buying and supporting companies but have bought specific
> > software or stuff which needed specific drivers written for RiscOS.

> RiscOS is not same as RISC OS as has been pointed out dozens of times 
> its a different operating system.

And it's is not the same as its, to is not the same as too, rediculous
is not the same as ridiculous, definately is not the same as
definitely, but all these errors occur time and again without Chris
Hugheses and David Ruckses getting their knickers in a tizwaz. (More
likely they are to commit these errors.) Anyone correcting these sorts
of errors will themselves be jumped on by the likes of CH & DR with
cries of "Does it matter as long as the meaning is clear?": Does anyone
say, except vexatiously, that in this case the meaning was not clear?

You might consider that the written word transcribes the spoken word
(and particularly so on usenet): I, for one, do not say
ar-aye-ess-see-space-oh-ess, I say "risc os" (as I know others say
"risc oh ess") but then capitalize it as I might capitalize, for
example, England.

In a legal document, one might conclude that the failure to write it
RISC OS would be a grave error; in newsgroups - most specially in
comp.sys.acorn.* newsgroups - it should engender no more opprobrium
than writing tuesday without a capital T.

-- 
Dev

Om Namah Shivaya | Om Anantaya namaha

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#5389

On Sun, 06 May 2012 15:04:16 +0100, Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> 
wrote:

> comp.sys.acorn.* newsgroups - it should engender no more opprobrium
> than writing tuesday without a capital T.

Opprobrium? Where's that on the periodic table? ;-)

Apparently writing days and months in French with capitals is wrong. 
Looks really strange to me, so I capitalise 'em.

As for the complaint, perhaps it was a quiet day and the OP didn't 
realise that most people would be happy to have RISC OS noticed, even 
if written haxx0r[*]-fashion ( r1sC0$ or somesuch ).


Best wishes,

Rick.

* - I hate that word about as much as I hate "cyber" prefixes...

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#5380

On Sat, 05 May 2012 15:06:19 +0100, Brian 
<brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

> These apps are free and infact probably need updating as soon as 
you 
> switch it on.

It is called "active development". Something that you, as a RISC OS 
user, may not be aware of.

<stir!><stir!>


> More money than sense?

I don't see any fruity logos...


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#5384

In article <caab218b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>,
   Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

> What technical know how?

> You see an app you like click on install and its done from wherever 
> this may be market,store,play,getjar?

> Thats the point with Android and iOS, you install and use and 
> uninstall frequently too!

> These apps are free and infact probably need updating as soon as you 
> switch it on.
> But I guess you need email support for updating it and technical know 
> how,no doubt.Oh dear...
> So you pay £80 extra for the privilege?
> More money than sense?
> I'm all for buying and supporting companies but have bought specific 
> software or stuff which needed specific drivers written for RiscOS.

> You plug the item into the Iyonix and it shows up as a drive.
> Simples.

This posting just sums it all up.
Can you wonder why there are so few developers left, and just a couple of
RO suppliers.

[Snip a longer acerbic post, it's not worth the bother]

D.

-- 

Dave Triffid

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#5373

charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <9115198b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>,
>    Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Has the RComp one been reviewed yet?
> 
> I'm at present writing one for Archive
> 
> 
> > So can pick it up around £170 from ebuyer.com hence why would I buy it 
> > from Rcomp for more?
> 
> 1. It's £179.98
> 
> 2. R-Comp have added extra software (yes, which you could yourself, if you
> had the inclination and technical know-how) to allow it to work seamlessly
> with the Iyonix and also allowing access to Googlestore - which it does.

3. And they will presumably offer their usual level of support even though
it's not a RISC OS product.

Alan

-- 
RISC OS - you know it makes cents

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#5375

In message <gemini.m3jzre00d0j6400f8.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyou 
rself.co.uk>
          Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> 
wrote:

> charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> In article <9115198b52.BrianFerris@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>,
>>    Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Has the RComp one been reviewed yet?
>> 
>> I'm at present writing one for Archive
>> 
>> 
>>> So can pick it up around £170 from ebuyer.com hence why would I buy it
>>> from Rcomp for more?
>> 
>> 1. It's £179.98
>> 
>> 2. R-Comp have added extra software (yes, which you could yourself, if you
>> had the inclination and technical know-how) to allow it to work seamlessly
>> with the Iyonix and also allowing access to Googlestore - which it does.

> 3. And they will presumably offer their usual level of support even though
> it's not a RISC OS product.

> Alan
Yes.
I would hope so for that cost.
If I bought the Tablet to work with a PC I would expect the support 
from the retailer regarding using with the PC as I don't expect them 
to know about an Iyonix?
If I got a product and it worked with an Iyonix that would be a 
bonus.But as the Tablet shows up as a drive just a drive it still 
doesn't convince me to buy it from RComp.
That was my whole point originally?
If the item came with specific drivers or stuff to get it to work with 
an Iyonix then of course I would get it from them if I really wanted 
the device.
BUT as there is no technical magic,know how,knowledge its still a 
premium price?
You wouldn't do the same thing if the item was an ink cartridge or 
cable?




-- 
Check out Brian's pics at:
www.flickr.com/photos/httpflickrcomphotosbrian

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#5381

Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <gemini.m3jzre00d0j6400f8.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyou 
> rself.co.uk>
>           Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> > 3. And they will presumably offer their usual level of support even
though
> > it's not a RISC OS product.

> I would hope so for that cost.
> If I bought the Tablet to work with a PC I would expect the support 
> from the retailer regarding using with the PC as I don't expect them 
> to know about an Iyonix?

The important words were "usual level". You can talk to someone in
Warrington, not Mumbai, and he will usually give support in great detail.

Alan

-- 
RISC OS - you know it makes cents

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