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  Wakefield (second attempt) Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-05-02 12:15 +0100
    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-02 13:19 +0100
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-05-02 14:08 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-04 23:20 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 05:23 +0200
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-05 21:13 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-05-05 10:26 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 12:10 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-05-05 12:31 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:03 +0100
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:14 +0100
    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 16:51 +0100
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 18:57 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-05-03 20:08 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Thomas Milius <Thomas-Milius@t-online.de> - 2012-05-03 21:46 +0200
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Thomas Milius <Thomas-Milius@t-online.de> - 2012-05-03 22:04 +0200
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-05-04 16:48 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-05-03 21:22 +0200
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2012-05-04 09:20 +0100
      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 12:11 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-05 12:39 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:01 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-05 13:18 +0100
              Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-12 11:34 +0100
        Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 12:31 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:32 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 13:43 +0100
              Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 15:06 +0100
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-05-05 15:23 +0100
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 16:41 +0100
                  Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 18:59 +0200
                    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-05-06 11:28 +0100
                      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-05-06 14:58 +0100
                  Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-05-06 15:04 +0100
                    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-06 20:00 +0200
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 18:50 +0200
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 19:43 +0100
              Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 15:18 +0100
                Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Brian <brferris@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 15:48 +0100
                  Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 17:54 +0100
                  Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-12 12:12 +0100
                    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-12 22:05 +0100
                      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-05-13 06:53 +0100
                      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-13 13:14 +0200
                      Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-15 11:40 +0100
            Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 16:36 +0100
              Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-05-12 11:54 +0100
          Re: Wakefield (second attempt) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 18:28 +0200
    Re: Wakefield (second attempt) charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 17:36 +0100

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#5298 — Wakefield (second attempt)

Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact with the
new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on the thing.

R.

-- 

  Richard Travers 
  richtnews@uwclub.net
  

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#5301

In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net>
          Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

> Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact with the
> new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on the thing.

I held it in my hands near the end of the show, its quite good.

Its a scroll extreme 10" model if I remember correctly, it had various 
apps running on it and including Goggle Maps. They prep the device and 
provide necessary cables. It has a camera front and back. Its rotates 
the display on rotation of the device - sometimes with slight pause.

Can handle HD movies apparently to your TV when connected via its 
micro HDMI connector to the TV.



-- 
Chris Hughes
Sorry you have missed the Wakefield Show now.
http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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#5303

In article <6f5e8c8952.chris@o2.co.uk>,
   Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net>
>           Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

> > Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact with the
> > new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on the thing.

> I held it in my hands near the end of the show, its quite good.

> Its a scroll extreme 10" model if I remember correctly, it had various 
> apps running on it and including Goggle Maps. They prep the device and 
> provide necessary cables. It has a camera front and back. Its rotates 
> the display on rotation of the device - sometimes with slight pause.

> Can handle HD movies apparently to your TV when connected via its 
> micro HDMI connector to the TV.

Thanks Chris - that's helpful.

R.

-- 

  Richard Travers 
  richtnews@uwclub.net
  

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#5356

In article <528990e30brichtnews@uwclub.net>, Richard Travers
<richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
> In article <6f5e8c8952.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes
>    <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net> Richard Travers
> >           <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

> > > Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact
> > > with the new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on
> > > the thing.

> > I held it in my hands near the end of the show, its quite good.

> > Its a scroll extreme 10" model if I remember correctly, it had
> > various apps running on it and including Goggle Maps. They prep the
> > device and provide necessary cables. It has a camera front and back.
> > Its rotates the display on rotation of the device - sometimes with
> > slight pause.

> > Can handle HD movies apparently to your TV when connected via its
> > micro HDMI connector to the TV.

> Thanks Chris - that's helpful.

If it's a Scroll Extreme, I coincidentally bought one from Ebuyer for
£180-1p. Free delivery.

It has its 'disadvantages' if it's the same one, as my Scroll Extreme is
not an approved Google Play Store device so you have to obtain your apps
elsewhere. I can install the Play Store app but it won't install other
things. There are other places to download apps such as
www.freewarelovers.com/android and as the thing is and has to be set up
to install from anywhere, anti-virus may be wise. Mine has ICS 4.0.3 and
many Developer options in Settings! 'Show Touches' is cool. I actually
prefer the format of freewarelovers as the download and install are two
distinct processes.

If you have an Android phone and Play Store is essential to you, it is
possible to download an app from the store to the phone, back it up with
(e.g.) Astro and then transfer the .apk file to the Tablet by email. I
did this with Astro itself and its SMB Module and can now access my
Transient folders on the NAS from the Tablet as I do with every machine
in the house. This makes excluding it from the Store a bit daft. It tells
you which apps can be updated but I have only a simple-but-convoluted
solution to install updates. Sometimes these updates deliver only foreign
dictionaries or esoteric bug fixes so aren't as urgent as some people
think.

Other niggles include the default browser's inability to play more than a
minute of a YouTube or other video clip. Such things can be fixed with
other browsers such as Dolphin. The YouTube app itself is brilliant and
is called by Opera Mini in preference to inline rendering. Developers:
this is a good idea.

Other essential apps which work include Dropbox, Kindle, WiFi Analyser,
GMail and Tweetcaster. The facebook app I found is an old version: a
browser is better.  I have tried it with various video clips from various
sources and its own player seems to cope well. I will try it with a telly
soon. A cable is included.

My Iyonix set-up which includes Fat32FS opens the Scroll Extreme as a USB
drive once the correct behaviour is set on it but in reality I connect
wirelessly to today's Transient folder on the NAS to exchange files with
RISC OS. Or I email them.

I wander around the house reading my 'PADD' and sipping Earl Grey.
http://db.tt/aWEjVBva
(Netsurf users: ignore the JavaScript message and select 'download')

J.L.

-- 
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#5358

On Fri, 04 May 2012 23:20:31 +0100, Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> 
wrote:

> possible to download an app from the store to the phone, back it up 
with
> (e.g.) Astro and then transfer the .apk file to the Tablet by 
email. I

Yikes. My (oldish - before it sold out) copy of FileExplorer has a 
module that sits in the background and backs up every installed app 
to SD at time of installation. It's dead useful to "revert" for cases 
where a useful free feature becomes a paid-for option (WinAMP) or 
when a nice simple app turns up stuffed with adverts (BBCRadio). I 
can just pull the old apk and install that instead.


> Other niggles include the default browser's inability to play more 
than a
> minute of a YouTube or other video clip.

Could be the tablet/ICS? My phone (2.3.something) works okay, though, 
as you rightly point out...

> is called by Opera Mini in preference to inline rendering. 
Developers:
> this is a good idea.

Phone/tablet devices don't make sense with in-line rendering. 
Watching videos should always switch to full screen. Anything else is 
just tedious.

[tip: sites (vimeo, youku... usually offer a "full screen" option in 
their player, tap on that *should* switch to full screen, but that 
might be full screen as in a widescreen video centred in a 4:3 frame 
centred in the device's display... <sigh>).


> I wander around the house reading my 'PADD' and sipping Earl Grey.

I sit in the garden with a mug of Tetley and TheRegister. ;-) I used 
to enjoy Earl Grey as a special tea (not the daily 
stoke-up-the-braincell tea), but it's been blown away by Sweet Sakura 
Tea (black). http://www.satsuki.fr/sweet-sakura-tea.htm


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#5385

In article <almarsoft.756682581132441434@news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray
<heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 May 2012 23:20:31 +0100, Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
> wrote:

[Snip]

> > Other niggles include the default browser's inability to play more 
> than a
> > minute of a YouTube or other video clip.

> Could be the tablet/ICS? 

[Snip]

Good question as to where the problem lies but I have discovered that
with the Dolphin browser User Agent set to Desktop it is very good with
iPlayer web site, even when tethered to my phone on 3G.

-- 
from Tim Hill who welcomes incoming email to tim at timil dot com.
* Share in a better energy supplier: http://tjrh.eu/coopnrg
* Share in cheaper ethical telecoms: http://tjrh.eu/phone
* Have a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/

... "Incapable of more, replete with you" Sonnet 113

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#5360

In article <528acb14bbtim@invalid.org.uk>,
   Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <528990e30brichtnews@uwclub.net>, Richard Travers
> <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
> > In article <6f5e8c8952.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes
> >    <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net> Richard Travers
> > >           <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

> > > > Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact
> > > > with the new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on
> > > > the thing.

> > > I held it in my hands near the end of the show, its quite good.

> > > Its a scroll extreme 10" model if I remember correctly, it had
> > > various apps running on it and including Goggle Maps. They prep the
> > > device and provide necessary cables. It has a camera front and back.
> > > Its rotates the display on rotation of the device - sometimes with
> > > slight pause.

> > > Can handle HD movies apparently to your TV when connected via its
> > > micro HDMI connector to the TV.

> > Thanks Chris - that's helpful.

> If it's a Scroll Extreme, I coincidentally bought one from Ebuyer for
> £180-1p. Free delivery.

Thanks Tim - more useful info.

R.

-- 

  Richard Travers 
  richtnews@uwclub.net
  

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#5362

In message <528b08178frichtnews@uwclub.net>
          Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

> In article <528acb14bbtim@invalid.org.uk>,
>    Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
>> In article <528990e30brichtnews@uwclub.net>, Richard Travers
>> <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
>>> In article <6f5e8c8952.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes
>>>    <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net> Richard Travers
>>>>           <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

>>>>> Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact
>>>>> with the new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on
>>>>> the thing.

>>>> I held it in my hands near the end of the show, its quite good.

>>>> Its a scroll extreme 10" model if I remember correctly, it had
>>>> various apps running on it and including Goggle Maps. They prep the
>>>> device and provide necessary cables. It has a camera front and back.
>>>> Its rotates the display on rotation of the device - sometimes with
>>>> slight pause.

>>>> Can handle HD movies apparently to your TV when connected via its
>>>> micro HDMI connector to the TV.

>>> Thanks Chris - that's helpful.

>> If it's a Scroll Extreme, I coincidentally bought one from Ebuyer for
>> £180-1p. Free delivery.

> Thanks Tim - more useful info.

Beware the version sold via R-Comp has Android 4 "Ice Cream Sandwich" 
for ist OS, CPC for instance were selling the 7" version very cheaply 
but it had only Android 2.3 on it.


-- 
Chris Hughes
Sorry you have missed the Wakefield Show now.
http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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#5363

In a mad moment - Tim Hill  mumbled :

> In article <528990e30brichtnews@uwclub.net>, Richard Travers
> <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
>> In article <6f5e8c8952.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes
>>    <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net> Richard Travers
>>>           <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

>>>> Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact
>>>> with the new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on
>>>> the thing.

>>> I held it in my hands near the end of the show, its quite good.

>>> Its a scroll extreme 10" model if I remember correctly, it had
>>> various apps running on it and including Goggle Maps. They prep the
>>> device and provide necessary cables. It has a camera front and back.
>>> Its rotates the display on rotation of the device - sometimes with
>>> slight pause.

>>> Can handle HD movies apparently to your TV when connected via its
>>> micro HDMI connector to the TV.

>> Thanks Chris - that's helpful.

> If it's a Scroll Extreme, I coincidentally bought one from Ebuyer for
> £180-1p. Free delivery.

[snip]

Perhaps a silly query but - Is SKYPE available for this Tablet ?

-- 
|)    [
|)ryn [vans            mail to - BrynEvans@bryork.freeuk.com

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#5367

In message <csamc076138b52.Bryn@yo.rk>
          Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> wrote:

> In a mad moment - Tim Hill  mumbled :

>> In article <528990e30brichtnews@uwclub.net>, Richard Travers
>> <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
>>> In article <6f5e8c8952.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes
>>>    <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net> Richard Travers
>>>>           <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

>>>>> Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact
>>>>> with the new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on
>>>>> the thing.

>>>> I held it in my hands near the end of the show, its quite good.

>>>> Its a scroll extreme 10" model if I remember correctly, it had
>>>> various apps running on it and including Goggle Maps. They prep the
>>>> device and provide necessary cables. It has a camera front and back.
>>>> Its rotates the display on rotation of the device - sometimes with
>>>> slight pause.

>>>> Can handle HD movies apparently to your TV when connected via its
>>>> micro HDMI connector to the TV.

>>> Thanks Chris - that's helpful.

>> If it's a Scroll Extreme, I coincidentally bought one from Ebuyer for
>> £180-1p. Free delivery.

> [snip]

> Perhaps a silly query but - Is SKYPE available for this Tablet ?

I believe it does since I seem to remember the Skype App being install 
on the one at the show. It has camera at front and back, so no reason 
why not.

-- 
Chris Hughes
Sorry you have missed the Wakefield Show now.
http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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#5368

Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net>
>           Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:
> 
> > Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact with
the
> > new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on the thing.
> 
> I held it in my hands near the end of the show, its quite good.

I would want to use it with a WD My Passport drive. This requires a Windows
app to lock/unlock it. Anyone know whether an Android app is available to do
this?

Alan

-- 
RISC OS - you know it makes cents

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#5322

In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net>
          Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

> Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact with the
> new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on the thing.
>
> R.
>
I bought the last one from Andrew at Wakefield and very good it is too.
Bit of a culture shock after RISC OS but there is lots of info on the
web.

So far have managed to contact other machines on my network, have fitted
an extra SD card and have transferred some videos to it from SWMBO's
laptop. It does video very well. The browser is pretty good. I think it
will do SKYPE as well. I downloaded an "App" and then reaslised that
nowhere had it mentioned a microphone, but it turns out it does have
one.

I would say "go for it" particularly at the on-line price! You will
probably have to download some apps yourself if you go this route as
Andrew had put some useful ones on there on his version, including the
"Google Play" store app..

BTW the display is stunning, well upto iPad standard IMHO, and it feels
a robust piece of kit. Only thing missing for me is a GPS chip.

TTFN

-- 
Geoff. Baxendale, Darwen, Lancashire.
Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
Oxymoron of the day: "Pretty Ugly"

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#5329

In message <109c238a52.thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk>
          Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net>
>           Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

>> Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact with the
>> new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on the thing.
>>
>> R.
>>
> I bought the last one from Andrew at Wakefield and very good it is too.
> Bit of a culture shock after RISC OS but there is lots of info on the
> web.

> So far have managed to contact other machines on my network, have fitted
> an extra SD card and have transferred some videos to it from SWMBO's
> laptop. It does video very well. The browser is pretty good. I think it
> will do SKYPE as well. I downloaded an "App" and then reaslised that
> nowhere had it mentioned a microphone, but it turns out it does have
> one.

Yes it had Skype on it, I remember that now.

It also used Andriod v4 "Ice Cream Sandwich" for the OS.

> I would say "go for it" particularly at the on-line price! You will
> probably have to download some apps yourself if you go this route as
> Andrew had put some useful ones on there on his version, including the
> "Google Play" store app..

I am also very tempted. The price is sensible as well. and R-Comp do 
ensure you get the cables etc.

> BTW the display is stunning, well upto iPad standard IMHO, and it feels
> a robust piece of kit. Only thing missing for me is a GPS chip.

Not sure about being up to iPad standard (certainly not the latest one 
anyway), but it was pretty good.

Battery life seems pretty good as well, it was on from about 9am on 
show day and had 30% left at 4 pm when I was playing with it just 
before the show finished.

Re the GPS point, when I tried Google maps it opened at the current 
location of where we were. so seems to have someway of working the 
location out.



-- 
Chris Hughes
Sorry you have missed the Wakefield Show now.
http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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#5331

In article <b72c2f8a52.chris@o2.co.uk>,
   Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> Re the GPS point, when I tried Google maps it opened at the current 
> location of where we were. so seems to have someway of working the 
> location out.

Maybe Google worked out your position from having recorded where your
specific router was located when it surveyed the area for its
pictures . . . ?

A clue is that, when I use my iPod Touch which doesn't have GPS on
it, Google Maps shows me in a slightly wrong location - probably
because the car didn't come down our (private, unadopted) road and my
house backs on to the houses of the road where it claims I live.
Whereas with my new iPhone with GPS, its location is spot on, of
course. I'd better try and stop being paranoid about Google.

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding   riscos@mdharding.org.uk

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#5334

In message <528a35b136riscos@mdharding.org.uk>
          M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <b72c2f8a52.chris@o2.co.uk>,
>    Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Re the GPS point, when I tried Google maps it opened at the current 
> > location of where we were. so seems to have someway of working the 
> > location out.
> 
> Maybe Google worked out your position from having recorded where your
> specific router was located when it surveyed the area for its
> pictures . . . ?
> 
> A clue is that, when I use my iPod Touch which doesn't have GPS on
> it, Google Maps shows me in a slightly wrong location - probably
> because the car didn't come down our (private, unadopted) road and my
> house backs on to the houses of the road where it claims I live.
> Whereas with my new iPhone with GPS, its location is spot on, of
> course. I'd better try and stop being paranoid about Google.
> 

If using WLAN Hotspots or GSM/UMTS the broadcast cells are identifying with
certain IDs of which you can look up the position. You will find that if
possible the cells are changing quite often even when you are not moving. So
in general it should be possible in conjunction with strength of the signal
from the cell to interpolate your position inside an "acceptable" range. Note
that his works of course from the opposite side (the cells) also. So mobile
phone companies know where you are and how long (not only where you live).
Always walking through a certain business street? Often stopping at a certain
shop eg. a travel agency? Got a spam mail some hours later reagrding cheap
flys "by pure random"? Told your family you got home so late because of so
much traffic? Your family will be able to check this. I am sad to say that
George Orwells 1984 showed a really primitive technological but already
"effective" concept compared to the new possibilities :-(.

Regards

Thomas Milius

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#5335

In message <cd1e398a52.Thomas@thomas-milius.t-online.de>
          Thomas Milius <Thomas-Milius@t-online.de> wrote:

> Got a spam mail some hours later regarding cheap flys "by pure random"?

Sorry flights not flys. Late in the evening.

Regards

Thomas Milius

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#5344

In article <528a35b136riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding
<URL:mailto:riscos@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <b72c2f8a52.chris@o2.co.uk>,
>    Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Re the GPS point, when I tried Google maps it opened at the current 
> > location of where we were. so seems to have someway of working the 
> > location out.
> 
> Maybe Google worked out your position from having recorded where your
> specific router was located when it surveyed the area for its
> pictures . . . ?

AIUI Geolocation from IP Address rarely works in the UK.
According to all the look up tables on most geolocation websites I've tried
my routers at home and work are in London or Manchester (Where my ISPs have
their servers), I forget which is which.

If google has scanned your wireless router driving past it can be accurate.
As we don't use a wireless router, they can't trace us that way!

> A clue is that, when I use my iPod Touch which doesn't have GPS on
> it, Google Maps shows me in a slightly wrong location - probably
> because the car didn't come down our (private, unadopted) road and my
> house backs on to the houses of the road where it claims I live.
> Whereas with my new iPhone with GPS, its location is spot on, of
> course. I'd better try and stop being paranoid about Google.

But they are out to get you, well certainly a lot of data about you :-/

Chris Evans

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#5333

In message <b72c2f8a52.chris@o2.co.uk>
          Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <109c238a52.thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk>
>           Geoffrey Baxendale <thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>> Only thing missing for me is a GPS chip.

> Re the GPS point, when I tried Google maps it opened at the current
> location of where we were. so seems to have someway of working the
> location out.

This is usually done based on the network it is connected to and/or 
the wireless networks it sees. This can be pretty accurate in densely 
populated areas but does not really help at all when you have lost 
your way in the open countryside. It probably requires an internet 
connection, too.

-- 
Martin
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#5340

In article <109c238a52.thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk>, Geoffrey Baxendale
<thebears@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <5289868527richtnews@uwclub.net> Richard Travers
>           <richtnews@uwclub.net> wrote:

> > Can I just confirm that nobody other than Charles had any contact with
> > the new R-Comp tablet? I'm really looking for more details on the thing.
> >
> > R.
> >
> I bought the last one from Andrew at Wakefield and very good it is too.
> Bit of a culture shock after RISC OS but there is lots of info on the web.

> So far have managed to contact other machines on my network, have fitted
> an extra SD card and have transferred some videos to it from SWMBO's
> laptop. It does video very well. The browser is pretty good. I think it
> will do SKYPE as well. I downloaded an "App" and then reaslised that
> nowhere had it mentioned a microphone, but it turns out it does have one.

> I would say "go for it" particularly at the on-line price! You will
> probably have to download some apps yourself if you go this route as
> Andrew had put some useful ones on there on his version, including the
> "Google Play" store app..

> BTW the display is stunning, well upto iPad standard IMHO, and it feels a
> robust piece of kit. Only thing missing for me is a GPS chip.

Thanks to you and Chris for the info. It certainly looks worth going for. 

R.

-- 

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#5361

So does this Tablet come with Google Play?
Some comments on this thread indicate it does and doesn't,maybe from 
those who actually haven't got the device?
On the linkhttp://riscos.blog.com/2012/04/22/behold-the-r-comp-tablet/
it just says :
”Our setup work ensures you‘ll be able to access a range of 
downloadable ”apps•, books and movies from the Google Store, or via 
Amazon‘s Kindle marketplace."

Google Store is :
http://www.google-store.com/google/webcontents/default.aspx
Not for Android Tablets!

I like to get the majority of apps via Google Play.
If Google Play is not available then the wording needs changing.What 
is Google Store?
 At least use the correct names.
I don't always want to sideload apps.
The virus side and protection is vital if downloading from other ' 
store's '
It's just sloppy marketing and misleading for some?
You could spend a little more money and buy a different Android 
Tablet?
Regards




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