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  help please ... not booting properly Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> - 2012-04-29 12:37 +0100
    Re: help please ... not booting properly "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 12:57 +0100
      Re: help please ... not booting properly "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 14:07 +0200
        Re: help please ... not booting properly Tennant Stuart <tennant@orpheus.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 23:37 +0100
          Re: help please ... not booting properly "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 06:20 +0000
          Re: help please ... not booting properly "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 08:32 +0200
          Re: help please ... not booting properly "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 10:18 +0100
    Re: help please ... not booting properly Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-29 13:14 +0100
      Re: help please ... not booting properly "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 14:04 +0100
      Re: help please ... not booting properly Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> - 2012-04-29 13:29 +0100
        Re: help please ... not booting properly "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 16:24 +0200
        Re: help please ... not booting properly Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-29 15:42 +0100
          Re: help please ... not booting properly Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> - 2012-04-29 16:29 +0100
            help please ... not booting properly "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 17:48 +0200
              Re: help please ... not booting properly SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2012-04-29 16:59 +0100
                Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-04-30 03:32 -0700
                  Re: help please ... not booting properly Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 14:03 +0200
                    Re: help please ... not booting properly cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-04-30 13:31 +0100
                      Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-04-30 05:53 -0700
                        Re: help please ... not booting properly Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 15:24 +0100
                          Re: help please ... not booting properly "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 16:44 +0200
                          Re: help please ... not booting properly "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 16:05 +0100
                          Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-04-30 08:20 -0700
                        Re: help please ... not booting properly Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 21:19 +0200
                          Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 09:47 -0700
                        saving a Taskwindow Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-05-07 17:00 +0100
                          Re: saving a Taskwindow John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-05-07 18:15 +0100
                          Re: saving a Taskwindow Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-05-07 19:24 +0100
                            Re: saving a Taskwindow Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-05-07 20:07 +0100
                              Re: saving a Taskwindow John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-05-07 22:02 +0100
                                Re: saving a Taskwindow Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-05-07 22:08 +0100
                                  Re: saving a Taskwindow Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-05-07 23:14 +0100
                                    Re: saving a Taskwindow Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-05-08 00:10 +0100
                                      Re: saving a Taskwindow Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-05-08 11:34 +0100
                                        Re: saving a Taskwindow Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-05-08 15:12 +0100
                                      Re: saving a Taskwindow John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-05-08 03:46 +0100
                                  Re: saving a Taskwindow Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-08 04:29 +0200
                                    Re: saving a Taskwindow Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-05-08 03:45 +0100
                              Re: saving a Taskwindow Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-05-08 06:13 +0100
                                Re: saving a Taskwindow Frank de Bruijn <zuiderduin@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-08 08:01 +0200
                                  Re: saving a Taskwindow Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-05-08 07:27 +0100
                                    Re: saving a Taskwindow Brian Debenham <brian@bdebenham.co.uk> - 2012-05-08 08:14 +0100
                                      Re: saving a Taskwindow Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-05-08 09:00 +0100
                                        Re: saving a Taskwindow "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-05-08 11:24 +0100
                      Re: help please ... not booting properly Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 18:28 +0100
                    Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-04-30 05:44 -0700
                      Re: help please ... not booting properly Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 14:16 +0100
                      Re: help please ... not booting properly Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 21:26 +0200
                        Re: help please ... not booting properly Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-30 22:20 +0100
                          Re: help please ... not booting properly Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-30 22:49 +0100
                    Re: help please ... not booting properly Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-04-30 22:42 +0100
              Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-04-30 03:30 -0700
                Re: help please ... not booting properly Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 13:59 +0100
                Re: help please ... not booting properly Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 21:31 +0200
                  Re: help please ... not booting properly Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-30 22:35 +0100
                    Re: help please ... not booting properly Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-01 16:34 +0200
                      Re: help please ... not booting properly Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-05-01 16:01 +0100
                  Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 09:54 -0700
                    Re: help please ... not booting properly "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 19:16 +0200
                      Re: help please ... not booting properly "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 17:54 +0000
                    Re: help please ... not booting properly "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 18:32 +0100
                    Re: help please ... not booting properly Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-03 18:02 +0000
                      Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-05-04 03:38 -0700
                        Re: help please ... not booting properly cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-05-04 12:48 +0100
                          Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-05-04 08:07 -0700
                            Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-05-04 09:06 -0700
                              Re: help please ... not booting properly Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-04 17:12 +0000
                                Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-05-04 10:20 -0700
                                  Re: help please ... not booting properly "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-05-04 19:36 +0200
                                    Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-05-04 11:07 -0700
                                      Re: help please ... not booting properly "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-05-04 18:40 +0000
                                        Re: help please ... not booting properly Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-05-04 21:03 +0100
                                      Re: help please ... not booting properly cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-05-08 08:49 +0100
                                  Re: help please ... not booting properly Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-04 18:15 +0000
                                    Re: help please ... not booting properly cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-05-04 19:47 +0100
                                    Re: help please ... not booting properly Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-04 22:26 +0000
                                    Re: help please ... not booting properly Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 05:10 +0200
                                      Re: help please ... not booting properly Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-05 08:16 +0000
            Re: help please ... not booting properly Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-29 16:42 +0100
            Re: help please ... not booting properly Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 17:04 +0000
              Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-04-30 03:27 -0700
                Re: help please ... not booting properly cdec <chrisdecordova@gmail.com> - 2012-04-30 04:29 -0700
                Re: help please ... not booting properly Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 22:24 +0200
        Re: help please ... not booting properly "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-29 15:39 +0100
          Re: help please ... not booting properly Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 14:51 +0100
            Re: help please ... not booting properly druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-04-30 22:34 +0100
              Re: help please ... not booting properly Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-01 16:39 +0200
            Re: help please ... not booting properly Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-04-30 22:57 +0100
            Re: help please ... not booting properly "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-30 23:57 +0100
              Re: help please ... not booting properly Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-05-01 14:05 +0100
                Re: help please ... not booting properly Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-05-01 15:33 +0000
                  Re: help please ... not booting properly Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-05-01 17:46 +0100
                    Re: help please ... not booting properly Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-05-01 21:21 +0100

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#5241

In article <528890285dSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
   Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> This is the 21st century for goodness sake and even in the fifties
> TVs were largely built by long rows of women at benches soldering up
> the wiring.

Hear hear!  I was wondering how to approach that myself.  Blatant sexism
(sorry Chris, but it is!).

John

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#5243

In article <528890285dSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
   Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> One of my daughters is a blacksmith. Beats hell out of pieces of hot
> metal and turns then into something ornate. Drills, files, hacksaws,
> uses an angle grinder and other kit and does welding.

One of my nieces is a metallurgist. Checks things like the condition of
pipelines etc in the North Sea. At one time she was the only female on an
oil rig. Not so now. Someone (not me - I know better ;-)) described her as
a pretty little thing...

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#5244

On Apr 30, 3:24 pm, Stuart <Spam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <ed7473fa-581a-4ffe-8815-7301b8fb4...@v2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>    cdec <chrisdecord...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > By the way, I guess I am assuming that I have been here so long that
> > people know I am a female and do not do soldering and motherboards
> > etc.
>
> The fact that you are female (known) does not automatically mean you
> cannot solder, or that people would make that assumption.
>
> This is the 21st century for goodness sake and even in the fifties
> TVs were largely built by long rows of women at benches soldering up
> the wiring.
>
> One of my daughters is a blacksmith. Beats hell out of pieces of hot metal
> and turns then into something ornate. Drills, files, hacksaws, uses an
> angle grinder and other kit and does welding.
>
> --
> Stuart Winsor
>
> Only plain text for emailshttp://www.asciiribbon.org

Hi Stuart, I'm sure I could do all that at the drop of the hat, too!

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#5252

On 30/04/2012 14:53, cdec wrote:

>> The computer will work without the battery - but you have to reset the
>> CMOS settings each startup - plus input the date/time.
> Is that really essential?

Yes - the computer will revert to defaults otherwise (including setting 
the date to... what was it, 1980 or something?). Defaults aren't bad... 
for a 1Mb ARM2 machine hooked to a telly-style monitor (think of the 
A310s and such back in '87).


> *status into any text editor to save it or send it. Always a marathon
> handwritten copy then retype task - with high risk of error.

I think there's a program called !CMOSSave around? If your computer is 
set up with the original apps still in place, try in $.Utilities or 
somesuch.

Sorry I can't help more, but I'm running both Thunderbird AND Firefox 
(notorious memory hogs) on a 1Gb netbook machine with no swap file (that 
means when memory is full, it is full, nothing can be stashed to the 
harddisc to fake having more than there really is). Lots of words to say 
there's no way in hell I'll be able to get RedSquirrel running in order 
to tell you where SaveCMOS is - somebody else will need to fill you in 
on this.


> By the way, I guess I am assuming that I have been here so long that
> people know I am a female

Yup, I remember you from ye olde dayes of ZFC. ;-)



> and do not do soldering and motherboards etc.

Hehe... Soldering isn't hard. Seriously, it is like a cross between 
collage and patchwork. Have you ever done any artsy stuff with a hot 
melt glue gun (takes those white batons, generally makes a mess?). If 
you can handle that, you're half way to coping with soldering.


Oh, and as Stuart has said - your gender does not preclude you from 
being capable of soldering. It would be "unusual" in that girls don't 
tend to wield chainsaws, or yank engines apart (unless they're Princess 
Margaret), however I could pick dozens and dozens of females of all ages 
who would have *no* idea what comp.sys.acorn is, never mind this thing 
called usenet. Their capabilities are watching crap on YouTube, then 
bleating about it on Facebook.

Yet here you are. On this "usenet" thing. :-)


> Some of the posts seem to assume I am a moderately competent techie male.

It'd be much better to find a moderately competent techie female. 
They're a rare species...


> I am not going to look inside a PC, Rick, either.

That wasn't the point. The point was that computers have batteries. 
These need to be changed from time to time. If you thought the RiscPC 
was a problem, plenty of modern PCs are freakier inside.

Then you can laptops and netbooks which are infamously complicated to 
get inside. I'm dead impressed that I've needed to strip down my eeePC 
twice, and I got it back together neither missing a screw nor one too 
many. That doesn't tend to happen.

And, just as a throw-away, back in the 386 days (so we're looking early 
'90s), I had to change a harddisc in a machine. It was a massive 20Mb 
and built like a tank. The computer, a German market Compaq had insane 
radio-interference shielding. TWO layers of aluminium sheeting, with 
small hex-bolts practically every inch to hold the shielding in place. 
Took me an entire day, something that should have been a ten minute 
swap-job. And I had three bolts left over, after checking twice and 
having a friend check. Go figure!


> The beauty of the RPC and the other Acorns I still have, is that
> nothing goes wrong with them. Normally ....

You know, it sounds complicated at first, but basic computer maintenance 
and stuff like upgrading harddiscs is only marginally more complicated 
than dressmaking. Think about, say, a pinafore dress. First you need to 
cut out the various panels of fabric. The correct size. But wait, the 
size needs to include extra for seams, but the extra needs to be 
extra-extra along hem points. You need, if using a patterned fabric, to 
ensure it'll be the right way up in both senses. Then your pinafore can 
either be a basic type that just sorta hangs, or it can be the more 
complex type that is fitted to body shape. Which means a lot of panels, 
especially around the breast area. Plenty of sewing, different types of 
stitch as well.
And, as much of a techie nerd as I am, I think I will be dead before I 
figure out how a sewing machine's tension actually works. I've only just 
managed to figure out how to get the bobbin fitted the right way up, 
though the older machines with the spinning bullet style are damn confusing!

You can make a dress, you can poke around in a computer. You just need 
to know what the bits are and what connects where. However, please, 
PLEASE, do not use your gender to justify this. Just say "I'm not 'into' 
techie stuff" and leave it at that.


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#5324

On Apr 30, 8:19 pm, Rick Murray <heyrickmail-use...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
[snip]

> However, please,
> PLEASE, do not use your gender to justify this. Just say "I'm not 'into'
> techie stuff" and leave it at that.
>

OK I'll use my extreme age! coupled with poor eyesight, gnarled
arthritic fingers and impending dementia! And terror at pulling out
the wrong wires to get to it.

And tha fact that I do not have a soldering iron.

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#5405 — saving a Taskwindow

[Posted and mailed]

cdec  wrote on Apr30 in thread "help please...":
>  I have never been able to copy and paste anything from
> *status into any text editor to save it or send it. Always a marathon
> handwritten copy then retype task - with high risk of error.

Allo again, Chris.

Open a Taskwindow (Ctrl-F12) and then type *status.  When the listing 
finishes, click menu over the taskwindow and choose Suspend.  (I 
suppose that tells the system to stop doing whatever task it was 
doing.)  Then you can use the usual F3 to save as a textfile.

If you do *status on the commandline (F12) it isn't so easy to save 
the results.  I suspect you've been using F12 instead of Ctrl-F12.

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#5409 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

Jim Nagel  wrote

> [Posted and mailed]

> cdec  wrote on Apr30 in thread "help please...":
>>  I have never been able to copy and paste anything from
>> *status into any text editor to save it or send it. Always a marathon
>> handwritten copy then retype task - with high risk of error.

> Allo again, Chris.

> Open a Taskwindow (Ctrl-F12) and then type *status.  When the listing
> finishes, click menu over the taskwindow and choose Suspend.  (I
> suppose that tells the system to stop doing whatever task it was
> doing.)  Then you can use the usual F3 to save as a textfile.

Or - open a StrongED window, then a Taskwindow (Ctrl-F12) and type 
*status.

Stripe the text you want in the taskwindow, click in the other  
StrongED window and press F7 - works for me with StrongED 4.69a

-- 
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#5410 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

In article <aec7338c52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel
<jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:

> cdec  wrote on Apr30 in thread "help please...":

> >  I have never been able to copy and paste anything from
> > *status into any text editor to save it or send it.
> > Always a marathon handwritten copy then retype task -
> > with high risk of error.

> Allo again, Chris.

> Open a Taskwindow (Ctrl-F12) and then type *status.  When
> the listing finishes, click menu over the taskwindow and
> choose Suspend.  (I suppose that tells the system to stop
> doing whatever task it was doing.)  Then you can use the
> usual F3 to save as a textfile.

I always wondered what 'Suspend' was about. I have always
used 'Kill'.

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#5411 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

In article <528c4101b3see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
   Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> I always wondered what 'Suspend' was about. I have always
> used 'Kill'.

If you use 'Suspend', then you will find 'Resume' will become
available, so you can use it as a taskwindow again. Kill will end the
taskwindow capability permanently.

-- 
Chris Johnson

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#5413 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

Chris Johnson  wrote

> In article <528c4101b3see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
>    Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
>> I always wondered what 'Suspend' was about. I have always
>> used 'Kill'.

> If you use 'Suspend', then you will find 'Resume' will become
> available, so you can use it as a taskwindow again. Kill will end the
> taskwindow capability permanently.

however, if you press ctrl-f12 a killed task window comes back to life 
again - spooky:)

-- 
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#5414 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> however, if you press ctrl-f12 a killed task window comes back to life
> again - spooky:)

Surely not.  You get a new task window.

The point of suspend/resume is that you can pause an executing task.  For
example if you have some command-line based utility that's going to run for
hours generating taskwindow output, you can suspend it (perhaps to give
other tasks on the machine a bigger share of cpu time) then resume it later.
If you kill it the task being run in the TW ends abruptly.  

The difference is not going to be obvious if you just use a TW to run the
occasional RO *command.

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#5415 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

The following bytes were arranged on 7 May 2012 by Jeremy Nicoll - news posts :

> John Rickman Iyonix <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > however, if you press ctrl-f12 a killed task window comes back to life
> > again - spooky:)
>
> Surely not.  You get a new task window.

Not if you don't have the option Global Choices -> Respond to -> Always
new window ticked, you don't.

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#5416 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Not if you don't have the option Global Choices -> Respond to -> Always
> new window ticked, you don't.

Never heard of it; which Global Choices are those?

Presumably if you run TaskObey (or other TaskXxxx file types) they do run in
their own TWs?

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#5425 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

The following bytes were arranged on 8 May 2012 by Jeremy Nicoll - news posts :

> Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Not if you don't have the option Global Choices -> Respond to -> Always
> > new window ticked, you don't.
>
> Never heard of it; which Global Choices are those?

The conversation I was responding to was about StrongED.  You are using
StrongED, right?

If so, you know perfectly well where the Global Choices are.

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#5436 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> The conversation I was responding to was about StrongED.

Was it; I thought it was just about TWs.

> You are using StrongED, right?

Not for years.  I mainly use Kedit.


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#5430 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

Jeremy Nicoll - news posts  wrote

> Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>> Not if you don't have the option Global Choices -> Respond to -> Always
>> new window ticked, you don't.

> Never heard of it; which Global Choices are those?

StrongED global choices


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#5417 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

On Mon, 7 May 2012 22:08:28 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - news posts 
<jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:

> If you kill it the task being run in the TW ends abruptly.

I dimly recall some weird effects killing compile jobs - does TW 
"kill" abort the task without doing its atexit() routine?


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#5418 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I dimly recall some weird effects killing compile jobs - does TW "kill"
> abort the task without doing its atexit() routine?

Whose atexit() ?

Eg I used to run (Regina) REXX programs in TWs.  Are you saying the Regina
REXX interpreter would/should have had an atexit() entrypoint which RO
should have called? 

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#5419 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

In article <528c44e5c7chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>,
   Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <528c4101b3see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
>    Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> > I always wondered what 'Suspend' was about. I have always
> > used 'Kill'.

> If you use 'Suspend', then you will find 'Resume' will become
> available, so you can use it as a taskwindow again. Kill will end the
> taskwindow capability permanently.

Perhaps someone would be kind enough to note for me just where these menu
options are?

I use the Ctrl F12 TaskWindow quite a bit and have never seen, nor can now
find a menu option with 'Suspend' or 'Resume' in it.

Thanks.
Dave

I've just re-read the thread from Jim's post on...
Why would you need to 'Suspend' anyway?

Here (eg. after Status [Return] I just press f3 and I get a 'Save as'
dialogue with "TaskWindow" in the dialogue ready to be saved (I could as
per usual, change the word in the writable to anything suitable).

??

-- 

Dave Triffid

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#5420 — Re: saving a Taskwindow

In article <528c7c5e12dave@triffid.co.uk>,
   Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <528c44e5c7chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>,
>    Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> wrote:
> > In article <528c4101b3see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
> >    Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> > > I always wondered what 'Suspend' was about. I have always
> > > used 'Kill'.

> > If you use 'Suspend', then you will find 'Resume' will become
> > available, so you can use it as a taskwindow again. Kill will end the
> > taskwindow capability permanently.

> Perhaps someone would be kind enough to note for me just where these menu
> options are?

> I use the Ctrl F12 TaskWindow quite a bit and have never seen, nor can now
> find a menu option with 'Suspend' or 'Resume' in it.

Open a StrongED TaskWindow and click Menu on the word 'TaskWindow' in
the bottom bar. Suspend, Resume and Kill task should be the last three
items on the menu.

> I've just re-read the thread from Jim's post on...
> Why would you need to 'Suspend' anyway?

> Here (eg. after Status [Return] I just press f3 and I get a 'Save as'
> dialogue with "TaskWindow" in the dialogue ready to be saved (I could as
> per usual, change the word in the writable to anything suitable).

> ??

Indeed.

Regards,
Frank

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