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| Started by | J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2012-04-03 10:32 +0100 |
| Last post | 2012-04-17 21:14 +0100 |
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Barclays internet banking J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 10:32 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 14:45 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 15:51 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 16:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-04-03 18:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 21:38 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking. (getting OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 22:57 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 05:39 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-04-13 21:08 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 19:34 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 20:12 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 23:17 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 18:40 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 19:52 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 22:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 23:02 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 09:41 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:07 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:23 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 16:09 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 17:42 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-05 11:59 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:16 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> - 2012-04-10 21:20 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-10 21:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 22:28 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-11 13:23 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 14:01 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 16:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-12 20:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 12:51 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 15:20 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:08 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:32 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-05 12:03 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-04 21:22 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 22:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 23:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 00:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 19:02 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 20:13 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2012-04-16 22:40 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 05:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 10:43 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-04-19 21:41 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 22:07 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:18 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:12 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 09:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 22:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:10 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 12:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:05 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:48 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:03 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:11 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 17:16 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-17 14:14 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:43 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-17 15:31 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 17:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 12:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 12:37 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Robert King <rdk13@cam.ac.uk> - 2012-04-18 14:30 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 14:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-03 20:22 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 06:09 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-06 16:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-06 19:24 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-06 18:36 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking patric <patric@invalid.com> - 2012-04-07 02:05 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 05:28 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 11:27 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 21:54 +0000
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-12 21:39 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 22:42 +0000
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-13 08:22 +0100
Banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 21:30 +0200
Re: Banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 19:01 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 19:33 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 22:30 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-10 23:10 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-11 09:11 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 11:59 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-17 21:14 +0100
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-17 13:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5281d58a2ddave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4946 |
In article <5281d18829alan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> > In Fresco you go to www.barclays.co.uk
> > Click on "log in".
> > Enter your surname and 12-digit code
> > Click on "next"
> > and up it comes!
> Not for me. I only get a PINsentry option.
In Fresco - Choices - Display options is JavaScript available and ticked?
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*If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-17 14:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5281d6dfbaalan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4947 |
In article <5281d58a2ddave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > In article <5281d18829alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > In Fresco you go to www.barclays.co.uk > > > Click on "log in". > > > Enter your surname and 12-digit code > > > Click on "next" > > > and up it comes! > > Not for me. I only get a PINsentry option. > In Fresco - Choices - Display options is JavaScript available and ticked? Yep. Always has been since 1999 or whenever I installed it. Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-17 14:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5281d78ffddave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4948 |
In article <5281d6dfbaalan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5281d58a2ddave@davenoise.co.uk>,
> Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <5281d18829alan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
> > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > In Fresco you go to www.barclays.co.uk
> > > > Click on "log in".
> > > > Enter your surname and 12-digit code
> > > > Click on "next"
> > > > and up it comes!
> > > Not for me. I only get a PINsentry option.
> > In Fresco - Choices - Display options is JavaScript available and
> > ticked?
> Yep. Always has been since 1999 or whenever I installed it.
Then I've no idea why you are not seeing what I do - on both my RPCs.
--
*Few women admit their age; fewer men act it.
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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| From | Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-17 17:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5281e885acajg@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4948 |
In article <5281d6dfbaalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > Not for me. I only get a PINsentry option. > > In Fresco - Choices - Display options is JavaScript available and > > ticked? > Yep. Always has been since 1999 or whenever I installed it. Mine is unticked! And it's unticked in FresUtils too! Alan Griffin
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-04-17 14:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5281d7def0see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #4946 |
In article <5281d18829alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > In article <5281cde44aajg@argonet.co.uk>, > Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > > In article <5281c6b573alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, > > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > How are you getting to the passcode & memorable word > > > option? > > In Fresco you go to www.barclays.co.uk > > Click on "log in". > > Enter your surname and 12-digit code > > Click on "next" > > and up it comes! > Not for me. I only get a PINsentry option. What, if any, faking settings are you all using? You can set fresco to announce itself as AntFresco, MSIE 4.04, netscape or Opera. Equally, it seems that you can tell it to announce the fact that it is running on RISC OS, or Windows (up to 2000) or MacOS. There are also Mozilla settings and separate JavaScript faking settings. Possibly some or all of these account for the different behaviours reported. I lo stick to widows for banking, although some of my banks do allow access with NetSurf, others definitely do not. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-17 14:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5281da7e3dalan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4949 |
In article <5281d7def0see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > In article <5281d18829alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: [Snip] > > Not for me. I only get a PINsentry option. > What, if any, faking settings are you all using? > You can set fresco to announce itself as AntFresco, MSIE > 4.04, netscape or Opera. Equally, it seems that you can tell > it to announce the fact that it is running on RISC OS, or > Windows (up to 2000) or MacOS. There are also Mozilla > settings and separate JavaScript faking settings. You are probably correct but they're certainly well hidden and don't appear through the Choices menu. In !Fresco.config I find that it appears it to be announcing itself as Mozilla/4.00 (compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98) For Javascript it says javascript.appname: Microsoft Internet Explorer That's it though and I can't see any information on what other settings might be possible or anything about OS type. > I lo stick to widows for banking, although some of my banks > do allow access with NetSurf, others definitely do not. Ditto and I'm not sure that I want to worry too much about Fresco's lack of options for logging in given the awful mess that appears once logged in! I'd also note that the options for logging in on FFox on my PC are just the same as on Netsurf/Fresco/Oregano in that I don't get the passcode and memorable word option, just the PINsentry option. I'm coming to think that Barclays are removing the option as they know I have a PINsentry or two! Cheers Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-04-17 15:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5281dee49bsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #4951 |
In article <5281da7e3dalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > You can set fresco to announce itself as AntFresco, > > MSIE 4.04, netscape or Opera. Equally, it seems that > > you can tell it to announce the fact that it is running > > on RISC OS, or Windows (up to 2000) or MacOS. There are > > also Mozilla settings and separate JavaScript faking > > settings. > You are probably correct but they're certainly well > hidden and don't appear through the Choices menu. I am sure that I used to be able to find them somewhere in Config, but it is years now since I looked at that. Assuming it is still around, Paul Vigay's FresUtils is an easy way of fiddling with the faking settings. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-17 17:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5281e8b222alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4952 |
In article <5281dee49bsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > In article <5281da7e3dalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > You can set fresco to announce itself as AntFresco, > > > MSIE 4.04, netscape or Opera. Equally, it seems that > > > you can tell it to announce the fact that it is running > > > on RISC OS, or Windows (up to 2000) or MacOS. There are > > > also Mozilla settings and separate JavaScript faking > > > settings. > > You are probably correct but they're certainly well > > hidden and don't appear through the Choices menu. > I am sure that I used to be able to find them somewhere in > Config, but it is years now since I looked at that. Assuming > it is still around, Paul Vigay's FresUtils is an easy way of > fiddling with the faking settings. Thanks. It does still exist and I've just downloaded it. As you say, it does allow the changing of various faking settings amongst other things. Not sure that changing the faking will make any difference as the problem, only get a PINsentry option at login, is the same on my Vista PC with the latest FFox! How other people are getting different login options out of Barclays I have no idea. Cheers Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-18 12:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ant181115345pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4951 |
In article <5281da7e3dalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <URL:mailto:alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > I'm coming to think that Barclays are removing the option as they know I > have a PINsentry or two! I don't think so, they've made a big thing of increasing the ways of access not needing PINsentry. Chris Evans -- CJE Micro's / 4D 'RISC OS Specialists' Telephone: 01903 523222 Fax: 01903 523679 chris@cjemicros.co.uk http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/ 78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN The most beautiful thing anyone can wear, is a smile!
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-18 12:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <528252d9c7alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4959 |
In article <ant181115345pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>, Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: > In article <5281da7e3dalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > <URL:mailto:alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > I'm coming to think that Barclays are removing the option as they know > > I have a PINsentry or two! > I don't think so, they've made a big thing of increasing the ways of > access not needing PINsentry. I agree, the message is there on the site, but I can see no way of doing so! All very strange. I think I've tried every combination of choices when starting the process but I always end up at the PINsentry screen., no matter what browser I use. Ah, I've not tried with IE, so I'll give that a go but then at least one poster here has spoken about using a non-PINsentry route with Fresco so that seems unlikely to make a difference. Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Robert King <rdk13@cam.ac.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-18 14:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jmmflb$67m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4960 |
On 18/04/2012 12:37, Alan Calder wrote: > In article<ant181115345pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>, Chris Evans > <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: >> In article<5281da7e3dalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder >> <URL:mailto:alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> I'm coming to think that Barclays are removing the option as they know >>> I have a PINsentry or two! > >> I don't think so, they've made a big thing of increasing the ways of >> access not needing PINsentry. > > I agree, the message is there on the site, but I can see no way of doing > so! All very strange. I think I've tried every combination of choices > when starting the process but I always end up at the PINsentry screen., no > matter what browser I use. > > Ah, I've not tried with IE, so I'll give that a go but then at least one > poster here has spoken about using a non-PINsentry route with Fresco so > that seems unlikely to make a difference. I had this problem too, until I realized that you need to first login with PINsentry, then reset your memorable number/word (you don't actually have to change it to anything else, just go through the process). Once you've done that, the next time you try to log on, you'll get the additional option to use that method! Very obvious... :-) Robert
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-18 14:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <52825f85ebalan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4962 |
In article <jmmflb$67m$1@dont-email.me>, Robert King <rdk13@cam.ac.uk> wrote: > On 18/04/2012 12:37, Alan Calder wrote: > > In article<ant181115345pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>, Chris Evans > > <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: > >> In article<5281da7e3dalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > >> <URL:mailto:alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >>> I'm coming to think that Barclays are removing the option as they > >>> know I have a PINsentry or two! > > > >> I don't think so, they've made a big thing of increasing the ways of > >> access not needing PINsentry. > > [Snip] > I had this problem too, until I realized that you need to first login > with PINsentry, then reset your memorable number/word (you don't > actually have to change it to anything else, just go through the > process). > Once you've done that, the next time you try to log on, you'll get the > additional option to use that method! > Very obvious... :-) Weirder and weirder! Why don't they tell you that? I'll give it a go later and see if you're method works, thanks! Cheers Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 20:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <36dec37a52.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
| In reply to | #4727 |
In message <527a8de014John_news@demon_ology.co.uk>
J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> wrote:
> Since Barclays "up"graded their internet banking I am totally locked
> out on Iyonix 5.16 using either !Netsurf 2.8, Netsurf 3.0 latest dev,
> !Oregano2 or even !Pheonix (Errors with .... not currently available)
> Same with mobile site; can't get in.
>
> All available on Windows 7 machine and Chrome, but can't extract pdf of
> "home" page which is a terrible nuisance, and download of excel data is
> a jumbled mess.
>
> Am I all alone in this wilderness?
I'm not sure in which sense you mean your question; but I also bank
with Barclays, and have had to use Linux since they changed their
site. Even without regard to its not working under RISC OS NetSurf,
I think the older site was easier to use.
I used to be able to reconcile my version of the account side by
side with theirs on the same machine. That's no longer possible.
Dave
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-04 06:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <almarsoft.6315827267980886974@news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #4735 |
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:22:30 +0100, Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > I used to be able to reconcile my version of the account side by > side with theirs on the same machine. That's no longer possible. Just be glad you aren't with Credit Mutuel. They've changed both printed statements and online to category-based, so I can see cheques here, direct debits there, card payments over there... ...I wonder how much fraud goes unnoticed now that it is no longer clear what the order of events is. And, as is often the case, there's no "sod off, that's horrible" option. It was launched, promoted as a new good thing. Pffft. Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-06 16:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4298397c52.A.Lefevre@freeuk.com> |
| In reply to | #4727 |
I've been suffering this lack of internet banking for several days. One
problem is that going on to the Barclays main number no matter whether one
pushes the various buttons or waits until a voice appears the destination
is always a call centre, and is then asked for the banking password. I
haven't got a a telephone banking password. I asked the young lady where she was and the reply was India. I said I didn't want to be rude, but I
couldn't see how she could help, as she was in India wanting to talk about
telephone banking, and I'm in England wanting to talk about internet
banking. She said she would put me through to someone who could help.
Then followed many minutes of a message repeated at 40 second intervals that someone would come when free.
Eventually a voice said that they were having problems and that it would be put right. That was Thursday. Tried internet connection the following day,
but still not working. Waited over the week end, and then found among my
paperwork a complaints number that I had from a few years ago. It still
worked, had a problem not being able to give a telephone password but
sorted out who I was, and I was put through, to 40 second interval messages. Gave up after a while, tried again in the afternoon, and surprise have a
Tyneside accent speaking to me. He said that they were aware of the troubles we were having and it would be put right, but I would find it easier if I
had a telephone password, they would send me one. Post arrived Wednesday, a Barclays letter, tear off this strip, scrape the surface, and read the
number. There isn't one! I tried reading it under a bright light, coloured
light, with white paper backing, with a watchmakers glass, nothing. So back to the complaints number. I must be able to read the number, did I back it
with white paper? I assured her there was nothing readable there, and she
said let's leave telephone banking, for many people who have had trouble
logging on, she suggested going to Google, searching for Barclays on line
Banking and clicking on the reply. The result for me is exactly the same:-
failed to make SSL connection with Oregano, and currently unavailable with
NetSurf.
Reading other's comments on Fresco, I tried it, but no matter which of the three choices I used the answer is always, 'unavailable'
So I don't expect anything to happen over the holiday wait to see what next
week brings.
Regards, Alec Lefevre
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-06 19:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <almarsoft.4948563948431835531@news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #4848 |
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:24:35 +0100, A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> wrote: > So I don't expect anything to happen over the holiday wait to see what > next week brings. The funny thing is, if you owed them money, they'd be all over it. It's like when the bank system crashes, you can't take money out of your account but you can sure as hell put some in... But, then, what can we expect from organisations that would like to make you jump through hoops with passwords and readers and such, yet resolutely refuse to make PINs more than four digits *and* also refuse to block access in foreign countries (the US is notoriously weak with card access). Hmm. Cash machines here (some, at least) can do Link. Ask it for a UK balance, your card is spat out. It worked for about a week... Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-06 18:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527c45b2c9dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4848 |
In article <4298397c52.A.Lefevre@freeuk.com>,
A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> wrote:
> Reading other's comments on Fresco, I tried it, but no matter which of
> the three choices I used the answer is always, 'unavailable'
Just tried Fresco again, and it gets to the page. As does Netsurf - but
you can't log in with that as the drop down menu doesn't show. Oregano 1
gives an error message 'failed to make a SSL connection to the server'
--
*I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder *
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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| From | patric <patric@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-07 02:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <op.wcdbu1teyrhmdj@medion-pc.fritz.box> |
| In reply to | #4850 |
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 19:36:48 +0200, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > In article <4298397c52.A.Lefevre@freeuk.com>, > A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> wrote: >> Reading other's comments on Fresco, I tried it, but no matter which of >> the three choices I used the answer is always, 'unavailable' > > Just tried Fresco again, and it gets to the page. As does Netsurf - but > you can't log in with that as the drop down menu doesn't show. Oregano 1 > gives an error message 'failed to make a SSL connection to the server' > Ha, NatWest told me my browser was "unsupported" luckily however I'm a quintuple OS user!
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-07 05:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <almarsoft.4117471733148932109@news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #4855 |
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:05:15 +0200, patric <patric@invalid.com> wrote: > Ha, NatWest told me my browser was "unsupported" Huh...NatWest. They were trying to talk my mother into installing a load of so-called security software. After more or less convincing her to go ahead and install, I took the phone and asked for an invoice address. They were like "huh?". An invoice address so I could bill them for my time sorting out the mess, should it go wrong. I listened patiently while the virtues of the software were extolled, and then I pointed out that looking for reports of the software on-line it was 50-50 whether it would work, or trash the system. It hooks in deep and doesn't like to play ball with other anti-virus products. More lies, I wasn't buying. The somewhat exasperated person asked to be put back talking to my mother since she said she would install the product. "Good luck with that", I said. Another "Huh?". I explained it is a limited user account, up to date anti-virus, Firefox, and a host of plugins to keep crap out (and by the way your lame verification uses scripts from multiple locations requiring me to partially lower the barrier in order to get YOUR stuff working)...so, installing system level stuff is my job. You were saying? I'm sure it is pure random coincidence that the phone call disconnected at that point, must have been a glitch. Just like it is pure coincidence that the topic has never been raised again. I understand there are many people running as an "administrator" (and, really, Microsoft shouldn't still be in business after a cock-up of that proportion), and I understand there are many that will open every attachment with insecure software, and I've even known people that think anti-virus is something you give your computer *after* "it gets sick" (actual quote!); but I wonder how much the software touted solves as opposed to breaks? I don't remember the name of the product now, but looking it up during the phone call, what struck me is that if it misfires on your specific machine, it doesn't go wrong, it goes really badly only-a-hardened-geek-could-fix-this style wrong. Plus several other NatWest-sucks stories that I don't feel inclined to type out. Either way... ;-) Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-07 11:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <527c9cc6ffUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4857 |
In article <almarsoft.4117471733148932109@news.orange.fr>,
Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I don't remember the name of the product now, but looking it up during
> the phone call
I think it will have been Trusteer Rapport. It's currently being pushed by
Norwich & Peterborough - details at:
www.trusteer.com/landing/norwich-and-peterborough-building-society
in an annoying window that nags you every time you log in! Yes, it is.
John
--
John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/
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