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| Started by | J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2012-04-03 10:32 +0100 |
| Last post | 2012-04-17 21:14 +0100 |
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Barclays internet banking J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 10:32 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 14:45 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 15:51 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 16:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-04-03 18:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 21:38 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking. (getting OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 22:57 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 05:39 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-04-13 21:08 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 19:34 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 20:12 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 23:17 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 18:40 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 19:52 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 22:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 23:02 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 09:41 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:07 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:23 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 16:09 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 17:42 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-05 11:59 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:16 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> - 2012-04-10 21:20 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-10 21:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 22:28 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-11 13:23 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 14:01 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 16:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-12 20:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 12:51 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 15:20 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:08 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:32 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-05 12:03 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-04 21:22 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 22:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 23:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 00:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 19:02 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 20:13 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2012-04-16 22:40 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 05:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 10:43 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-04-19 21:41 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 22:07 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:18 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:12 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 09:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 22:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:10 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 12:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:05 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:48 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:03 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:11 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 17:16 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-17 14:14 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:43 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-17 15:31 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 17:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 12:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 12:37 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Robert King <rdk13@cam.ac.uk> - 2012-04-18 14:30 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 14:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-03 20:22 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 06:09 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-06 16:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-06 19:24 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-06 18:36 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking patric <patric@invalid.com> - 2012-04-07 02:05 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 05:28 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 11:27 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 21:54 +0000
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-12 21:39 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 22:42 +0000
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-13 08:22 +0100
Banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 21:30 +0200
Re: Banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 19:01 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 19:33 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 22:30 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-10 23:10 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-11 09:11 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 11:59 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-17 21:14 +0100
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 14:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527baaa342dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4799 |
In article <527b95c336alan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> > But rather more secure than a credit card number? Everyone you've ever
> > used it with knows that.
> But that's no great use to them unless they actually have the card in
> their hand and access to a pinsentry or know your other security details.
They could write it down and keep it?
> If
> they know those other details then they probably know your membership
> number as well.
You carry that card along with your credit cards and give it to a trader?
Why?
--
*Confession is good for the soul, but bad for your career.
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 16:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527bb456faalan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4818 |
In article <527baaa342dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527b95c336alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > But rather more secure than a credit card number? Everyone you've ever > > > used it with knows that. > > But that's no great use to them unless they actually have the card in > > their hand and access to a pinsentry or know your other security details. > They could write it down and keep it? > > If > > they know those other details then they probably know your membership > > number as well. > You carry that card along with your credit cards and give it to a trader? > Why? I think there's a misunderstanding here. The number I'm talking about is the number on my debit card, the counterpart of those on your credit cards. Unless somebody has the actual, physical, debit card in their hands and a pinsentry device at the same time then the number is of no value. If somebody has stolen your card then you've probably already alerted the bank and if they've also stolen all your other security details then you are stuffed anyway! Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 17:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527bbcec05dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4824 |
In article <527bb456faalan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <527baaa342dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
> Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <527b95c336alan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
> > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > But rather more secure than a credit card number? Everyone you've
> > > > ever used it with knows that.
> > > But that's no great use to them unless they actually have the card
> > > in their hand and access to a pinsentry or know your other security
> > > details.
> > They could write it down and keep it?
> > > If they know those other details then they probably know your
> > > membership number as well.
> > You carry that card along with your credit cards and give it to a
> > trader? Why?
> I think there's a misunderstanding here. The number I'm talking about
> is the number on my debit card, the counterpart of those on your credit
> cards.
Well that number is recorded each time you use it. It's no more secure
than the bank code printed on cheques.
> Unless somebody has the actual, physical, debit card in their hands and
> a pinsentry device at the same time then the number is of no value. If
> somebody has stolen your card then you've probably already alerted the
> bank and if they've also stolen all your other security details then you
> are stuffed anyway!
I'm not talking about the 'pin' - that is a secret to yourself.
I have a credit sized card with my Barclays 12 digit membership number
which I keep safe, so no one will ever see it.
--
*Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 11:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b9d7689see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #4795 |
In article <527b9454a5dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > Things have become much easier all round with Barclays' > > security with the abandonment of the demand for the > > Membership number as the only way to get into the > > system - that was a right pig in being too long to > > remember reliably and needing to be looked up every > > time. > But rather more secure than a credit card number? > Everyone you've ever used it with knows that. Not necessarily! Since I changed merchant acquirer in December, I have no records of anyone's card data. As soon as I receive details of a customer's card, I enter all the details online, via a portal that is, I am assured, PCIDSS compliant (it would have to be, or they would be out of business). I set up the payment so that it is authorised, so that I know that the card details are correct, but that payment is not (yet) taken from the card holder's account. As soon as I have done that I either shred or burn my record of the card details.[1] I can go back to the transaction later and bank it, or cancel it, depending on what is appropriate, but at this stage there is no card data at all displayed to me other than the card holder's name, my own reference, and the authorisation code. If I print out a transaction slip, that has only the first six numbers of the card number, which tells me nothing at all, as that is simply the card scheme identifier - ie tells me that the card is, say a UK Barclaycard Visa or na MBNA Amazon MasterCard. [1] True, there is no physical check to confirm that I am doing this, but if they found out that I were not, they could cancel my account. There are also, I believe, legal penalties as well. But I am protected were someone to break in and try to steal data. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 14:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527ba9236dajg@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4792 |
In article <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > I don't know what a pin sentry is! > How did you avoid getting one? They were issued, I thought to all > Barclays customers, a couple of years ago or so. In principle they > are a good idea but it can be annoying if you don't have it handy. > I've acquired two so far, having mislaid one after a trip abroad only > for it to turn up when I next looked in my travel documents pouch. But you still haven't told me what it is? What form does it take? Alan G
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 14:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527baa122ealan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4809 |
In article <527ba9236dajg@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > I don't know what a pin sentry is! > > How did you avoid getting one? They were issued, I thought to all > > Barclays customers, a couple of years ago or so. In principle they > > are a good idea but it can be annoying if you don't have it handy. > > I've acquired two so far, having mislaid one after a trip abroad only > > for it to turn up when I next looked in my travel documents pouch. > But you still haven't told me what it is? > What form does it take? Have a look at: http://www.barclays.co.uk/Helpsupport/AboutthePINsentrycardreader/P1242560253440 Puzzled how you were missed out! Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-10 21:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <gemini.m2a5u00049dpw2yjk.stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> |
| In reply to | #4812 |
Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527ba9236dajg@argonet.co.uk>, > Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > > In article <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > > <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > > I don't know what a pin sentry is! > > > > How did you avoid getting one? They were issued, I thought to all > > > Barclays customers, a couple of years ago or so. In principle they > > > are a good idea but it can be annoying if you don't have it handy. > > > I've acquired two so far, having mislaid one after a trip abroad only > > > for it to turn up when I next looked in my travel documents pouch. > > > But you still haven't told me what it is? > > What form does it take? > > Have a look at: > http://www.barclays.co.uk/Helpsupport/AboutthePINsentrycardreader/P1242560253440 > > Puzzled how you were missed out! I have to ask if I want one (I don't) but I cannot make payments to anybody not already in my payee list. (And the new website is appalling on whatever platform you use.) -- Stewart Brodie
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| From | Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-10 21:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <945b677e52.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
| In reply to | #4872 |
In message <gemini.m2a5u00049dpw2yjk.stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com>
Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <527ba9236dajg@argonet.co.uk>,
> > Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder
> > > <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > I don't know what a pin sentry is!
> >
> > > > How did you avoid getting one? They were issued, I thought to all
> > > > Barclays customers, a couple of years ago or so. In principle they
> > > > are a good idea but it can be annoying if you don't have it handy.
> > > > I've acquired two so far, having mislaid one after a trip abroad only
> > > > for it to turn up when I next looked in my travel documents pouch.
> >
> > > But you still haven't told me what it is? What form does it take?
> >
> > Have a look at:
> >
> http://www.barclays.co.uk/Helpsupport/AboutthePINsentrycardreader/P1242560253440
> >
> > Puzzled how you were missed out!
>
> I have to ask if I want one (I don't) but I cannot make payments to anybody
> not already in my payee list.
>
> (And the new website is appalling on whatever platform you use.)
It's a PITA, isn't it? There is a help number to ring between 07:00
and 23:00 daily. It's "experiencing high call volumes". Funny, that.
I was hoping that I could get through to someone and plead to have
the old site available.
Dave
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-10 22:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527e6a4cb6alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4872 |
In article <gemini.m2a5u00049dpw2yjk.stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com>, Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > In article <527ba9236dajg@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Griffin > > <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > > > In article <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > > > <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > I don't know what a pin sentry is! > > > > > > How did you avoid getting one? They were issued, I thought to all > > > > Barclays customers, a couple of years ago or so. In principle > > > > they are a good idea but it can be annoying if you don't have it > > > > handy. I've acquired two so far, having mislaid one after a trip > > > > abroad only for it to turn up when I next looked in my travel > > > > documents pouch. > > [Snip] > I have to ask if I want one (I don't) but I cannot make payments to > anybody not already in my payee list. Strange. I wasn't asked as I remember - it just arrived and without it there was no way in. > (And the new website is appalling on whatever platform you use.) True, though I don't find it a problem on Firefox for the sorts of things I want to do. Certainly it's hard to see why Barclays thought the new design to be an improvement - change for change's sake seems to be the driver here. Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-11 13:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527ebc3d0atim@invalid.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #4874 |
In article <527e6a4cb6alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > (And the new website is appalling on whatever platform you use.) This is probably due to banking economics: use too few cheap web developers and don't bother with specialist designers at all. -- from Tim Hill of timil.com who . . . * supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone * has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/ * accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@ ... "When sorrow comes, they come not single spies, but in battalions" Hamlet, Act iv, Sc.5
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-12 14:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527f4382a2dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4874 |
In article <527e6a4cb6alan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> > (And the new website is appalling on whatever platform you use.)
> True, though I don't find it a problem on Firefox for the sorts of
> things I want to do. Certainly it's hard to see why Barclays thought
> the new design to be an improvement - change for change's sake seems to
> be the driver here.
I used it yesterday for the first time to pay a bill - but with Firefox on
the PC. Seemed just fine to me.
--
*The most common name in the world is Mohammed *
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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| From | Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-12 16:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ant121527064pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4890 |
In article <527f4382a2dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <URL:mailto:dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527e6a4cb6alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > (And the new website is appalling on whatever platform you use.) > > > True, though I don't find it a problem on Firefox for the sorts of > > things I want to do. Certainly it's hard to see why Barclays thought > > the new design to be an improvement - change for change's sake seems to > > be the driver here. > > I used it yesterday for the first time to pay a bill - but with Firefox on > the PC. Seemed just fine to me. Yes it works just not half as good as before:-( e.g. if overnight I go overdrawn on one account I used to be able to cut and paste the amount, you can't anymore! I think I've got to seven things that are worse. There is one thing better! You can reorder the display of accounts very easily, actually to easily!. So a new pretty design but the user experience is much worse. Chris Evans -- CJE Micro's / 4D 'RISC OS Specialists' Telephone: 01903 523222 Fax: 01903 523679 chris@cjemicros.co.uk http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/ 78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN The most beautiful thing anyone can wear, is a smile!
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| From | Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-12 20:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <88f1647f52.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
| In reply to | #4895 |
In message <ant121527064pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> There is one thing better! You can reorder the display of accounts very
> easily, actually to easily!.
> So a new pretty design but the user experience is much worse.
They have a deep-rooted desire to present transactions in reverse
order. I like working forwards, not backwards. I also like to
reconcile my version of the account history with theirs; my version
is on the Iyonix, and of course I can no longer get their version
side by side with mine on the same screen. Having got fed up with
repeatedly turning between two screens, I decided to take a PDF
copy of their version and display it on the Iyonix. Click the
"PDF" button and there it is.
Backwards again, despite the screen version that it came from
being forwards.
I assume that the people who specified and wrote it have never
actually used it to track their bank accounts.
Dave
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| From | Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-13 12:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ant131131fc4pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4900 |
In article <88f1647f52.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave Higton <URL:mailto:davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > In message <ant121527064pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk> > Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote: > > > There is one thing better! You can reorder the display of accounts very > > easily, actually to easily!. > > So a new pretty design but the user experience is much worse. > > They have a deep-rooted desire to present transactions in reverse > order. I like working forwards, not backwards. Yes they used to offer forward or reverse sorting, I suspect it may be selectable by dragging something up or down but what where I don't know. They seem to have taken an iPad App and tried to put it on a web page! > I also like to > reconcile my version of the account history with theirs; my version > is on the Iyonix, and of course I can no longer get their version > side by side with mine on the same screen. Having got fed up with > repeatedly turning between two screens, I decided to take a PDF > copy of their version and display it on the Iyonix. Click the > "PDF" button and there it is. > > Backwards again, despite the screen version that it came from > being forwards. > > I assume that the people who specified and wrote it have never > actually used it to track their bank accounts. Does the PDF though have the full info for each transaction? On line you have to click on each in turn to get any reference etc. Chris Evans -- CJE Micro's / 4D 'RISC OS Specialists' Telephone: 01903 523222 Fax: 01903 523679 chris@cjemicros.co.uk http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/ 78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex, BN11 2EN The most beautiful thing anyone can wear, is a smile!
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| From | "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <527baa6e68UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4809 |
In article <527ba9236dajg@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > But you still haven't told me what it is? > What form does it take? I suspect it's a card reader into which you insert your card and enter your pin. It then provides an 8 digit security code - different each time - which you can use to identify yourself as the account holder. Pin sentry may have been the name Barclays used when they issued them, which is why it may not mean much to anyone else, including, it seems, you. I have one issued by Nationwide which also seems to work for Halifax users, tho' on another thread some time ago, Druck stated they were not necessarily universal. Hope this helps, John -- John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses! Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject! Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 10:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b93534ddave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4782 |
In article <527b565b1calan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> Interesting. I do the same, though these days I use my card number
> rather than the annoyingly long membership number.
All my 'credit' cards have 16 numbers.
My Barclays membership number 12.
--
*Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 10:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b958b39alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4794 |
In article <527b93534ddave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527b565b1calan_calder@o2.co.uk>, > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > Interesting. I do the same, though these days I use my card number > > rather than the annoyingly long membership number. > All my 'credit' cards have 16 numbers. > My Barclays membership number 12. True but you don't have to remember the card numbers - they're printed on the cards! Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 12:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b9dd414see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #4794 |
In article <527b93534ddave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527b565b1calan_calder@o2.co.uk>, > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > Interesting. I do the same, though these days I use my > > card number rather than the annoyingly long membership > > number. > All my 'credit' cards have 16 numbers. Visa and MasterCards have 16 digits. Amex cards have 15 digits Maestro cards have at least 16 digits (my Belgian one has 17, my German one does not display its maestro number. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-04 21:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <622e4d7b52.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
| In reply to | #4739 |
In message <527ad3de41dave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> Having tried again now on the RPC I can log in - but it says
> service not available.
AIUI that's their way of saying you aren't using the right browser.
Misleading message? Yes.
Dave
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| From | Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-04 22:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b5274fdajg@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4778 |
In article <622e4d7b52.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > In message <527ad3de41dave@davenoise.co.uk> > "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > > Having tried again now on the RPC I can log in - but it says > > service not available. > AIUI that's their way of saying you aren't using the right browser. > Misleading message? Yes. > Dave But he uses the same browser as I do - Fresco! Alan Griffin
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