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| Started by | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| First post | 2012-02-18 16:50 +0000 |
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Purley Hosting Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-02-18 16:50 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2012-02-18 17:17 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-02-18 18:21 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2012-02-18 19:45 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-02-18 20:36 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-02-18 20:49 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-02-18 21:26 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-02-18 21:56 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-02-18 22:04 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-02-18 23:03 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2012-02-19 11:14 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-02-19 11:55 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-02-19 12:43 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-02-19 14:16 +0100
Re: Purley Hosting Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-02-19 13:53 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-02-19 12:16 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-02-19 12:29 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2012-02-19 12:42 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-02-19 11:08 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Neil Spellings <neil@spellings.net> - 2012-02-19 07:34 -0800
Re: Purley Hosting Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-20 13:32 +0000
Re: Purley Hosting Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> - 2012-02-20 14:35 +0000
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 16:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Purley Hosting |
| Message-ID | <5263895397see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
Not working again for me. No contact to their website, my websites by http or ftp, nor mail boxes. I is supposed to down next weekend, but not this one, AIUI. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 17:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52638bcbf1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3686 |
In article <5263895397see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > Not working again for me. > No contact to their website, my websites by http or ftp, nor > mail boxes. > I is supposed to down next weekend, but not this one, AIUI. Yes, same story again. Really, really not good enough. Bob. -- Bob Latham Stourbridge, West Midlands
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| From | Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 18:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lzlpnq035wngg01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #3687 |
On 18 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
<52638bcbf1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>:
> In article <5263895397see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
> Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Not working again for me.
>
> > No contact to their website, my websites by http or ftp, nor mail boxes.
>
> > I is supposed to down next weekend, but not this one, AIUI.
>
> Yes, same story again.
>
> Really, really not good enough.
?
It seems to be working fine.
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/purleyhosting.com
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
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| From | Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 19:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5263995088bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3689 |
In article <mpro.lzlpnq035wngg01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > On 18 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message > <52638bcbf1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>: > > In article <5263895397see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, > > Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Not working again for me. > > > > > No contact to their website, my websites by http or ftp, nor mail > > > boxes. > > > > > I is supposed to down next weekend, but not this one, AIUI. > > > > Yes, same story again. > > > > Really, really not good enough. > ? > It seems to be working fine. We saw last year that you have service when others don't. My logs say it went off around 13:27 today and returned at around 17:55. I'll be surprised if next week's down time isn't a conservative estimate of reality. Bob. -- Bob Latham Stourbridge, West Midlands
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 20:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52639e0d74see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3690 |
In article <5263995088bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <mpro.lzlpnq035wngg01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, > Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > > On 18 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message > > <52638bcbf1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>: > > > In article > > > <5263895397see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, > > > Russell Hafter News > > > <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > > > > Not working again for me. > > > > No contact to their website, my websites by http or > > > > ftp, nor mail boxes. > > > > I is supposed to down next weekend, but not this > > > > one, AIUI. > > > Yes, same story again. > > > Really, really not good enough. > > ? > > It seems to be working fine. > We saw last year that you have service when others don't. > My logs say it went off around 13:27 today and returned > at around 17:55. Seems about right to me. It stopped after lunch, was down all afternoon. Came back to my desk after tea and it was working. I have submitted a ticket... -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 20:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52639f337esee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3691 |
On 18 Feb, see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid wrote: > In article <5263995088bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob > Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote: > > In article > > <mpro.lzlpnq035wngg01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, > > Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > > > On 18 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message > > > <52638bcbf1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>: > > > > In article > > > > <5263895397see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, > > > > Russell Hafter News > > > > <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Not working again for me. > > > > > No contact to their website, my websites by http > > > > > or ftp, nor mail boxes. > > > > > I is supposed to down next weekend, but not this > > > > > one, AIUI. > > > > Yes, same story again. > > > > Really, really not good enough. > > > ? > > > It seems to be working fine. > > We saw last year that you have service when others > > don't. > > My logs say it went off around 13:27 today and returned > > at around 17:55. > Seems about right to me. > It stopped after lunch, was down all afternoon. > Came back to my desk after tea and it was working. > I have submitted a ticket... And at 2048 it is offline again. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 21:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fca3a26352.chris@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3692 |
In message <52639f337esee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
wrote:
> On 18 Feb, see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid wrote:
>> In article <5263995088bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob
>> Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <mpro.lzlpnq035wngg01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
>>> Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 18 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
>>>> <52638bcbf1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <5263895397see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
>>>>> Russell Hafter News
>>>>> <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Not working again for me.
>>>>>> No contact to their website, my websites by http
>>>>>> or ftp, nor mail boxes.
>>>>>> I is supposed to down next weekend, but not this
>>>>>> one, AIUI.
>>>>> Yes, same story again.
>>>>> Really, really not good enough.
>>>> ?
>>>> It seems to be working fine.
>>> We saw last year that you have service when others
>>> don't.
>>> My logs say it went off around 13:27 today and returned
>>> at around 17:55.
>> Seems about right to me.
>> It stopped after lunch, was down all afternoon.
>> Came back to my desk after tea and it was working.
>> I have submitted a ticket...
> And at 2048 it is offline again.
Well its up here at 21:25
Sure its not your ISP's DNS servers playing up?
--
Chris Hughes
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 21:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5263a56429see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3693 |
In article <fca3a26352.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote: > In message <52639f337esee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > Russell Hafter News > <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > > On 18 Feb, see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid wrote: > >> In article <5263995088bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob > >> Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote: > >>> In article > >>> <mpro.lzlpnq035wngg01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, > >>> Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > >>>> On 18 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message > >>>> <52638bcbf1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>: > >>>>> In article > >>>>> <5263895397see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, > >>>>> Russell Hafter News > >>>>> <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: [Snip] > >> It stopped after lunch, was down all afternoon. > >> Came back to my desk after tea and it was working. > >> I have submitted a ticket... > > And at 2048 it is offline again. > Well its up here at 21:25 > Sure its not your ISP's DNS servers playing up? Yes - I do not use my ISPs DNS - I use Open DNS :-) And as far as I can tell from the status icons on PC Firefox 10, where the searching icon rotates anticlockwise while it does the DNS look up, then clockwise when it tries to connect to the server, the DNS was fine. Firefox gave a 'timed out' error, not a 'cannot find website' error. No other server failed to connect all day. According to POPStar's log, it was working at 2033, but not at 2045 or 2056. The following fetch at 2108 worked again, as did their website. Having POPStar checking e-mail automatically every 12 mins does tend to emphasise these types of problem! -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 22:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lzlzzi093w1zk01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #3693 |
On 18 Feb, Chris Hughes wrote in message
<fca3a26352.chris@o2.co.uk>:
> In message <52639f337esee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
> Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > And at 2048 it is offline again.
>
> Well its up here at 21:25
>
> Sure its not your ISP's DNS servers playing up?
No: according to some recent tweets from @PurleyHosting, Bob and Russell
were correct.
The first outage is currently somewhat unexplained ("hung processes
consuming memory"); the second outage was Server 6 being rebooted and then
doing a full filesystem check.
Sigh. There's a feeling of Deja Vu here.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
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| From | Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-18 23:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0f73ab6352.chris@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3695 |
In message <mpro.lzlzzi093w1zk01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Feb, Chris Hughes wrote in message
> <fca3a26352.chris@o2.co.uk>:
>> In message <52639f337esee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
>> Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And at 2048 it is offline again.
>>
>> Well its up here at 21:25
>>
>> Sure its not your ISP's DNS servers playing up?
> No: according to some recent tweets from @PurleyHosting, Bob and Russell
> were correct.
> The first outage is currently somewhat unexplained ("hung processes
> consuming memory"); the second outage was Server 6 being rebooted and then
> doing a full filesystem check.
> Sigh. There's a feeling of Deja Vu here.
Oh dear server 6 was the one that crashed last time.
--
Chris Hughes
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| From | Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 11:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5263ee5f49news@highpath.net> |
| In reply to | #3696 |
Chris Hughes wrote: > Steve Fryatt wrote: > > Bob Latham wrote: > >> Russell Hafter News wrote: > >>> Not working again for me. > >> Yes, same story again. Really, really not good enough. > > Sigh. There's a feeling of Deja Vu here. > Oh dear server 6 was the one that crashed last time. Please can I put in a good word for Purley Hosting? Neil works hard to provide a professional yet personal service. He's friendly, honest and approachable and he understands RiscOS. He bends structures to accomodate individual requirements and works long hours to sort out the inevitable problems that crop up from time to time. And yes, things occasionally go wrong. And he occasionally has a weekend off, no doubt crossing his fingers while he's away. Bigger companies can afford to employ people 24 hours a day, but do they really provide a better service in practice? In my experience they usually don't and they're usually very difficult to communicate with when things do go wrong. I get the feeling that some of the criticism of Purley Hosting comes from people who have never tried to run a small business themselves. Take it from me - it's not easy. Maybe we should be saying thank-you to Neil for providing such an excellent alternative to those big, impersonal companies, and be a little more understanding when he has to sort out the problems. Chris Bell.
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| From | Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 11:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5922f26352.chris@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3701 |
In message <5263ee5f49news@highpath.net>
Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> wrote:
> Chris Hughes wrote:
>> Steve Fryatt wrote:
>>> Bob Latham wrote:
>>>> Russell Hafter News wrote:
>>>>> Not working again for me.
>>>> Yes, same story again. Really, really not good enough.
>>> Sigh. There's a feeling of Deja Vu here.
>> Oh dear server 6 was the one that crashed last time.
> Please can I put in a good word for Purley Hosting? Neil works hard to
> provide a professional yet personal service. He's friendly, honest and
> approachable and he understands RiscOS. He bends structures to
> accomodate individual requirements and works long hours to sort out the
> inevitable problems that crop up from time to time.
I am well aware of that and why I stay with him (just renewed in fact)
> And yes, things occasionally go wrong. And he occasionally has a
> weekend off, no doubt crossing his fingers while he's away. Bigger
> companies can afford to employ people 24 hours a day, but do they
> really provide a better service in practice? In my experience they
> usually don't and they're usually very difficult to communicate with
> when things do go wrong.
If companies don't communicate they lose business.
> I get the feeling that some of the criticism of Purley Hosting comes
> from people who have never tried to run a small business themselves.
> Take it from me - it's not easy. Maybe we should be saying thank-you
> to Neil for providing such an excellent alternative to those big,
> impersonal companies, and be a little more understanding when he has to
> sort out the problems.
I think you are being a little over sensitive here, I was not being
critical of Purley. No service can be up 100% of the time, minor
outages like this happen, people need to be sensible about it.
I did not even notice the problem until someone mentioned it.
--
Chris Hughes
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| From | Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 12:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lzn4o4081vyg001fm.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #3704 |
On 19 Feb, Chris Hughes wrote in message
<5922f26352.chris@o2.co.uk>:
> In message <5263ee5f49news@highpath.net>
> Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> wrote:
>
> If companies don't communicate they lose business.
>
> > I get the feeling that some of the criticism of Purley Hosting comes
> > from people who have never tried to run a small business themselves.
> > Take it from me - it's not easy. Maybe we should be saying thank-you to
> > Neil for providing such an excellent alternative to those big,
> > impersonal companies, and be a little more understanding when he has to
> > sort out the problems.
>
> I think you are being a little over sensitive here, I was not being
> critical of Purley. No service can be up 100% of the time, minor outages
> like this happen, people need to be sensible about it.
Agreed, the outage wasn't a problem.
The problem is communiction: when there are issues, everything goes down and
it's not possible to check a status page to find out what is happening. In
fact there's not even an indication that Purley still exist, because their
homepage also vanishes. This came up last summer following the three-day
outage, and while a solution was promised nothing seems to have changed.
And as you say above, if companies don't communicate they lose business.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
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| From | "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 14:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5263f98f81UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3709 |
In article <mpro.lzn4o4081vyg001fm.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: > The problem is communication: when there are issues, everything goes down > and it's not possible to check a status page to find out what is > happening. In fact there's not even an indication that Purley still > exist, because their homepage also vanishes. This came up last summer > following the three-day outage, and while a solution was promised nothing > seems to have changed. > And as you say above, if companies don't communicate they lose business. Perhaps a current customer could suggest a Facebook page to Neil where he could post status information for customers, or even just a status web page hosted by someone else's server. Perhaps a mutual arrangement with Orpheus to host each others status pages? I'd even be happy to host a status page on one of my Free.Fr sites which seem quite reliable and have Gb of space available. It'd be a bit of fun to write a PHP script to allow secure file updates. I'm afraid I'm not twitterate myself, so can't comment on that aspect of social networking. John -- John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses! Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject! Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/
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| From | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 13:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5263fcece5tim@invalid.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #3711 |
In article <5263f98f81UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk>, John Williams (News) <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: [Snip] > Perhaps a current customer could suggest a Facebook page to Neil [Snip] > I'm afraid I'm not twitterate myself, so can't comment on that aspect > of social networking. There are some (many?) who will neither facebook nor Tweet so would either be a good idea? An email to an alternate address would surely be preferable? A reminder though that, with NetSurf, the mobile sites are useable, if not pretty: http://m.facebook.com http://m.twitter.com -- Tim Hill of timil.com . . . * supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone * has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/ * accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@ ... "It is the mind that makes the body rich" T of the S, Act iv, Sc.3
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 12:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5263f4118bsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3701 |
In article <5263ee5f49news@highpath.net>, Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> wrote: > Please can I put in a good word for Purley Hosting? Neil > works hard to provide a professional yet personal > service. He's friendly, honest and approachable and he > understands RiscOS. Which is why he hosts three of my five websites. > He bends structures to accomodate individual > requirements and works long hours to sort out the > inevitable problems that crop up from time to time. > And yes, things occasionally go wrong. And he > occasionally has a weekend off, no doubt crossing his > fingers while he's away. Bigger companies can afford to > employ people 24 hours a day, but do they really provide > a better service in practice? In my experience they > usually don't and they're usually very difficult to > communicate with when things do go wrong. > I get the feeling that some of the criticism of Purley > Hosting comes from people who have never tried to run a > small business themselves. Not me! But there have been a number of outages recently - maybe, quite possibly, it has been just bad luck. But particulalrly at this time of year, peak season for people to be researching and booking holidays, to find that three of ones websites are inaccessible is very frustrating. It also creates a poor image of my business, if my websites are unavailable. > Take it from me - it's not easy. Maybe we should be > saying thank-you to Neil for providing such an excellent > alternative to those big, impersonal companies, and be a > little more understanding when he has to sort out the > problems. Be honest, the choice is not just between 'big, impersonal' and the 'one-man band' like Neil, me and, perhaps yourself. There are intermediates. Orpheus is, I believe, a 'two-man band'; recently their service has been much more reliable, but it has always been much harder to get quick answers to questions from Orpheus than from Purley Hosting, and they do not offer any kind of Control Panel. Paul Vigay told me that his way of splitting stuff between various servers precluded the use of a control panel. Personally, I split my hosting between Orpheus and Purley Hosting on the 'not all eggs in one basket' principle. I have used other hosting firms too, in the past, but a few years ago moved from them to Purley Hosting for all the reasons you mention, but I am beginning to re-consider. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 12:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5263f54495tim@invalid.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #3701 |
In article <5263ee5f49news@highpath.net>, Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> wrote: > I get the feeling that some of the criticism of Purley Hosting comes > from people who have never tried to run a small business themselves. > Take it from me - it's not easy. No, but maybe a small business which is also an ISP needs to reach 'critical mass' staff-wise before an instant response to such issues can be expected. I would heartily recommend getting at least one alternative email address, just for those times when your service is down and something important is needed somewhere. Stuff like gmail/googlemail can be excellent as an alternative in such circumstances. As a plus, my phone tells me when gmail arrives. > Maybe we should be saying thank-you > to Neil for providing such an excellent alternative to those big, > impersonal companies, and be a little more understanding when he has to > sort out the problems. My ISP's only problem which affected me in the last few years was their complete loss of one hard drive which contained some web sites. Free web space doesn't come with a backup so the whole thing had to be uploaded to a new server. No biggie. This was actually a good thing because I know there were a few stray temporary files which had been placed manually by FTP and not sync'ed with my offline version. Fortunately, the offline version of every site I manage can be available on the web too - during office hours. -- Tim Hill of timil.com . . . * supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone * has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/ * accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@ ... "A contract of eternal bond of love confirm'd by mutual joinder of hands" Twelfth N, Act v, Sc.1
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| From | Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 12:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5263f67bdabob@sick-of-spam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3701 |
In article <5263ee5f49news@highpath.net>, Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> wrote: > Please can I put in a good word for Purley Hosting? Neil works hard to > provide a professional yet personal service. He's friendly, honest and > approachable and he understands RiscOS. He bends structures to > accomodate individual requirements and works long hours to sort out the > inevitable problems that crop up from time to time. > And yes, things occasionally go wrong. I agree with all of that without reservation. It is the perceived open endedness of the outage due to not knowing if they even know about it and not being able to communicate and tell them. Bob. -- Bob Latham Stourbridge, West Midlands
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 11:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5263edd93bsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3696 |
In article <0f73ab6352.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes
<news@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <mpro.lzlzzi093w1zk01cb.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
> Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
> > No: according to some recent tweets from
> > @PurleyHosting, Bob and Russell were correct.
> > The first outage is currently somewhat unexplained
> > ("hung processes consuming memory"); the second outage
> > was Server 6 being rebooted and then doing a full
> > filesystem check.
> > Sigh. There's a feeling of Deja Vu here.
> Oh dear server 6 was the one that crashed last time.
An e-mail from neil this morning says the outage was
probably "a Denial of Service attack against Wordpress.
There were a large number of hanging PHP threads that
caused the server to run out of memory.
The issue wasn't addresses (sic) as quickly as I'd liked as
our monitoring didn't pick anything up as Apache was
responding for quite some time whilst PHP-based sites were
offline.
We blocked the source IP's, and started to kill off the PHP
processes, but in the end it was simpler to perform a
reboot."
--
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Neil Spellings <neil@spellings.net> |
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| Date | 2012-02-19 07:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d33c856b-6a10-421c-a431-3ec1ddbf2265@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #3702 |
Hi all Just catching up on this thread. We recognise the need for an off-site status page to improve our communications when things go wrong, so I've just finished this: http://purleyhostingstatus.wordpress.com/ Please bookmark. We will continue to use Twitter to post status updates, but as others have kindly stated, sometimes it can be difficult to detect the severity of problems until become apparent to a larger group of users, which is why we might not be posting tweets and status updates the second you encounter a problem. The problem that occurred yesterday was one of those where things got progressively worse over time, until "everything broke" when core services ran out of memory. Regards Neil purleyhosting.com
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