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  Invitation to join LinkedIn. Michael Bell <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> - 2012-01-19 11:10 +0000
    Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-01-19 11:41 +0000
    Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-01-19 13:07 +0000
      Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Michael Bell <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> - 2012-01-19 14:28 +0000
        Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-01-19 14:54 +0000
          Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-01-19 15:08 +0000
        Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-01-19 17:05 +0000
          Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-20 08:41 +0100
            Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Michael Bell <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> - 2012-01-21 06:29 +0000
              Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-01-21 11:02 +0000
                Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-21 16:04 +0000
                  Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-21 18:58 +0100
                Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-21 18:54 +0100
                  Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-21 18:07 +0000
                  Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-21 22:55 +0000
                    Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-22 00:40 +0100
                      Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-22 23:54 +0000
                        Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-01-23 01:05 +0100
      Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Alan Leighton <alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com> - 2012-01-21 08:58 +0000
        Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-21 16:12 +0000
    Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-21 18:13 +0000
      Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-01-21 22:01 +0000
        Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. workstuff@mail.com - 2012-01-22 00:13 +0100
          Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-22 10:46 +0000
            Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Raymond Wiker <raw@unknown-00-23-6c-8d-9e-26.lan> - 2012-01-22 11:57 +0100
              Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-22 11:07 +0000
            Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-24 11:00 +0000
              Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-01-24 13:35 +0000
                Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-01-24 19:35 +0000
                Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2012-01-26 13:26 +0000
                  Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-26 21:18 +0000
                  Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-26 21:27 +0000
                Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. <erving@riscos.org> - 2012-01-27 16:18 +0000
    Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. druck <druck1368@gmail.com> - 2012-03-07 12:59 -0800
      Re: Invitation to join LinkedIn. Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 22:12 +0000

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#3390

In article
<6924f75352.michaelbell@michael.beaverbell.co.uk>, Michael
Bell <michael@beaverbell.co.uk> wrote:

> I have just received an invitation to join LinkedIn. It
> may or may not be the person I think it is, the
> treasurer of a society I am a member of. I must say I am
> wary. What do I get out of it? What risks do I run?

I have been receiving these - fortunately not too many - for
some time.

After the first few from people I had never heard of I added
LinkedIn to my spam filter. I just assumed it was just
another spammers network. I got quite a surprise to hear
about the huge sum of money it raised by means of a stock
market float. and that it is, supposedly, a legitimate
undertaking.

It is still in my spam filters though, and I should probably
add facebook too. Apart from one invitation from my next
door neighbour, which he assured me was genuine, anything
that comes here from either LinkedIn or facebook seems to be
a scam.

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#3393

In article <5255258988see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter
News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> Apart from one invitation from my next door neighbour, which he assured
> me was genuine, anything that comes here from either LinkedIn or
> facebook seems to be a scam.

I beg to differ. The less technically able do seem to be able to put a
facebook profile together and some people seem to exist mostly there. If
you want to interact with them...and see their photos...

Any spam from LinkedIn seems to be from other members. Very occasionally.
Joining LinkedIn seems to stop invitations from new members! Since
joining, I have been bothered less.

-- 
Tim Hill of timil.com . . .
* supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone
* has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/
* accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@

... "Peace puts forth her olive everywhere" Henry IV, Act iv, Sc.4

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#3396

In message <52553a615etim@invalid.org.uk>
          Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <5255258988see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter
> News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> > Apart from one invitation from my next door neighbour, which he assured
> > me was genuine, anything that comes here from either LinkedIn or
> > facebook seems to be a scam.
> 
> I beg to differ. The less technically able do seem to be able to put a
> facebook profile together and some people seem to exist mostly there. If
> you want to interact with them...and see their photos...
> 
> Any spam from LinkedIn seems to be from other members. Very occasionally.
> Joining LinkedIn seems to stop invitations from new members! Since
> joining, I have been bothered less.
> 
There is usually an option with every invitation (hidden right at the
bottom of the email) to opt out of ever receiving emails from
Facebook/Google+/Linkedin/etc* in the future. Using the opt-out links
actually works. Since opting out of Facebook and Google+ invite emails I
haven't recieved any more invitations.
Cheers
Stan
* use whichever is appropriate
-- 
An Iyonix and a Beagleboard xM in Buskerud.

http://mistymornings.net 

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#3398

In article <2a01415552.news@mistymornings.net>,
   <workstuff@mail.com> wrote:

> There is usually an option with every invitation (hidden
> right at the bottom of the email) to opt out of ever
> receiving emails from Facebook/Google+/Linkedin/etc* in
> the future. Using the opt-out links actually works.

Trouble is, how can you tell if these e-mails are genuine,
rather than some form of phishing or other spam?

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#3399

Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> writes:

> In article <2a01415552.news@mistymornings.net>,
>    <workstuff@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is usually an option with every invitation (hidden
>> right at the bottom of the email) to opt out of ever
>> receiving emails from Facebook/Google+/Linkedin/etc* in
>> the future. Using the opt-out links actually works.
>
> Trouble is, how can you tell if these e-mails are genuine,
> rather than some form of phishing or other spam?

The old-fashioned way: examining mail headers, and paying close
attention to where links (URLs) in the message point...

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#3400

In article <m2fwf86m46.fsf@unknown-00-23-6c-8d-9e-26.lan>,
   Raymond Wiker <raw@unknown-00-23-6c-8d-9e-26.lan> wrote:
> Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
> writes:

> > In article <2a01415552.news@mistymornings.net>,
> >    <workstuff@mail.com> wrote:

> >> There is usually an option with every invitation
> >> (hidden right at the bottom of the email) to opt out
> >> of ever receiving emails from
> >> Facebook/Google+/Linkedin/etc* in the future. Using
> >> the opt-out links actually works.

> > Trouble is, how can you tell if these e-mails are
> > genuine, rather than some form of phishing or other
> > spam?

> The old-fashioned way: examining mail headers, and paying
> close attention to where links (URLs) in the message
> point...

Exactly.

It is a lot quicker just to bin them unopened.

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#3417

In message <525580764csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
          Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> 
wrote:

> Trouble is, how can you tell if these e-mails are genuine,
> rather than some form of phishing or other spam?

(Comments on general spam and phishing)

On a RISC OS (or other plain text system) it is usually totally 
obvious.

1. Link destinations are shown, and if they don't match, then you know 
it's a nasty.

2. They don't usually bother to make the plain text part look 
authentic anyway.

The only time I nearly got caught out was when I had given my hotmail 
as a second address for ebay/paypal (I know - stupid) and I was 
expecting an email due to an issue.

I was just about to click when I spotted "Ebat" written somewhere.

Every email client I have is configured to plain text now. (Wish it 
was possible for webmail)

-- 
Jess                   Iyonix

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#3419

In article <d35d895652.jess@itworkshop.invalid>, Jess
<URL:mailto:phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In message <525580764csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
>           Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Trouble is, how can you tell if these e-mails are genuine,
> > rather than some form of phishing or other spam?
> 
> (Comments on general spam and phishing)
> 
> On a RISC OS (or other plain text system) it is usually totally 
> obvious.
> 
> 1. Link destinations are shown, and if they don't match, then you know 
> it's a nasty.

If only all real emails always matched! I've had communications from
financial bodies not from there main domain and or linking to another of
there domains which is bad practice. Other companies often use real mailing
companies.

How users are meant to know they are genuine, I have no idea!

IIRC I had email from mbna-mail.com that was genuine, I did notice that
mbnamail.com wasn't registered (it may have been Vise Versa)

There really should be a simple code of practice.
 
> 2. They don't usually bother to make the plain text part look 
> authentic anyway.

 true
 
> The only time I nearly got caught out was when I had given my hotmail 
> as a second address for ebay/paypal (I know - stupid) and I was 
> expecting an email due to an issue.
> 
> I was just about to click when I spotted "Ebat" written somewhere.
> 
> Every email client I have is configured to plain text now. (Wish it 
> was possible for webmail)

n.b. I'm sure I recall being told HMRC never email you so any email must be
phishing, if so why have I just had to enter my email address on my tax
form! 


Chris Evans

-- 
CJE Micro's / 4D                'RISC OS Specialists'
Telephone: 01903 523222             Fax: 01903 523679
chris@cjemicros.co.uk     http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/
78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex,     BN11 2EN
The most beautiful thing anyone can wear, is a smile!

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#3420

In article <ant241352bc8pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,
   Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <d35d895652.jess@itworkshop.invalid>, Jess
> <URL:mailto:phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In message <525580764csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
> >           Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Trouble is, how can you tell if these e-mails are genuine,
> > > rather than some form of phishing or other spam?
> > 
> > (Comments on general spam and phishing)

[ . . . ]

> n.b. I'm sure I recall being told HMRC never email you so any email
> must be phishing, if so why have I just had to enter my email
> address on my tax form! 

Are you quite sure that the 'HMRC' form itself was genuine and not
phishing? Did it have a return address in Nigeria?  8-)

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding   riscos@mdharding.org.uk

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#3430

Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <d35d895652.jess@itworkshop.invalid>, Jess
> <URL:mailto:phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> If only all real emails always matched! I've had communications from
> financial bodies not from there main domain and or linking to another of
> there domains which is bad practice. Other companies often use real
> mailing companies.
 
> How users are meant to know they are genuine, I have no idea!

Easy. Just remember that financial bodies etc do not send out emails asking
customers to click on links to log in.

Except when they do, of course, which is more often than they'll say they
do. They'll most likely say they don't do it, and advise not to click on
links in emails claiming to come from them.

I suspect it's a case of a lack of internal communications - so the people
who say they don't, and give the sensible advice to ignore such emails,
probably don't realise that policies have changed in another department.

[...]

> There really should be a simple code of practice.

Yes, there should, definitely.

[...]
  
> n.b. I'm sure I recall being told HMRC never email you so any email must
> be phishing, if so why have I just had to enter my email address on my tax
> form!

HMRC most definitely *do* send emails - I (and most of my clients) receive
emailed reminders for VAT returns, for example - usually a couple of weeks
before the end of the VAT quarter.

And, yes, that includes a link for recipients to click on so that they can
log-in to submit the return.

It's stupid.
-- 
Soft Rock Software:                   http://www.softrock.co.uk
Vince M Hudd:                         http://misc.vinceh.com/about-vinceh/
RISCOSitory:                          http://www.riscository.com

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#3431

In article <mpro.lyeqoy005x04702xg.vinceh@softrock.co.uk>,
   Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> wrote:

> > n.b. I'm sure I recall being told HMRC never email you
> > so any email must be phishing, if so why have I just
> > had to enter my email address on my tax form!

> HMRC most definitely *do* send emails - I (and most of my
> clients) receive emailed reminders for VAT returns, for
> example - usually a couple of weeks before the end of the
> VAT quarter.

I refused to give them an e-mail address for a few years,
which meant that they had to send me paper reminders in the
post, which was good, because about every other day the
paper letter, with HMRC logo, would surface on my desk and
remind me to get the job done.

Then they said that no more paper reminders would be sent
out, and I *had* to give then an e-mail address for them to
e-mail the reminder to.

So now I get a single e-mailed plain text reminder that I
have to do something in five to six weeks time

> And, yes, that includes a link for recipients to click on
> so that they can log-in to submit the return.

I have not noticed that, to be honest, but then I probably
do not get far beyond the subject line of the e-mail...

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#3432

In article <mpro.lyeqoy005x04702xg.vinceh@softrock.co.uk>,
   Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> wrote:

> Easy. Just remember that financial bodies etc do not send
> out emails asking customers to click on links to log in.

> Except when they do, of course, which is more often than
> they'll say they do. They'll most likely say they don't
> do it, and advise not to click on links in emails
> claiming to come from them.

MBNA Credit cards send out e-mails every month - having thre
cards from them, they are a pain - they never contain
anything I want, so they are addressed to a <spam@> mailbox,
which is genuine, and I check once a week or so, and just
delete them. The e-mails are full of 'click here'
encouragements.

> I suspect it's a case of a lack of internal
> communications - so the people who say they don't, and
> give the sensible advice to ignore such emails, probably
> don't realise that policies have changed in another
> department.

Cahoot regularly send out e-mails too, though usually these
contain little more than information about how they have cut
the interest paid once more.

Or perhaps to "beware of people masquerading as Cahoot"...

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#3433

In message <ant241352bc8pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
          Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote

> n.b. I'm sure I recall being told HMRC never email you so any email must be
> phishing, if so why have I just had to enter my email address on my tax
> form!

I've just filled mine in, I seem to remember a space for email address 
(it was all of an hour ago, so plenty of time for me to forget) but it 
certainly was not insisted on (unlike insisting that I removed values 
of £0 and changed them to blank)
I was impressed that in NetSurf it came up with a message something 
like 'we see you have Java disabled but you can still proceed, you may 
have to press continue several times as security operates' ( I just 
tried logging in again, and got no such message, so maybe it 
remembers. It does tell you when it has record of you last logging in 
and has a button to press if that is wrong) anyway it worked, a couple 
of times it asked me to repeat my UserID and password, which didn't 
happen earlier today under Windozes at another location, but there 
none of the help buttons worked after the first. They did with 
NetSurf, following its convention of replacing the content with select 
or opening a new window with adjust. The one that worked in Firefox 
opened in a new tab but then no others opened at all, so in the end I 
gave up. All I had entered was still there when I opened in NetSurf, 
and it gave the option of saving the form in full colour or a 
simplified B/W version

Erving

> Chris Evans

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#4046

On Jan 19, 11:10 am, Michael Bell <mich...@beaverbell.co.uk> wrote:
> I have just received an invitation to joinLinkedIn. It may or may not
> be the person I think it is, the treasurer of a society I am a member
> of. I must say I am wary. What do I get out of it? What risks do I
> run?

In a moment of off-work-with-the-flu-madness, I've joined linkedin.
Apologies if anyone here has been spammed due to it slurping my
address book.

---druck

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#4050

In article
<3a71d7ce-3620-48dd-b7c1-948d165f0017@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
   druck <druck1368@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 11:10 am, Michael Bell <mich...@beaverbell.co.uk> wrote:
> > I have just received an invitation to joinLinkedIn. It may or may not
> > be the person I think it is, the treasurer of a society I am a member
> > of. I must say I am wary. What do I get out of it? What risks do I
> > run?

> In a moment of off-work-with-the-flu-madness, I've joined linkedin.
> Apologies if anyone here has been spammed due to it slurping my
> address book.

After the last flurry of Linkedin posts I tried joining up using Netsurf oe
was it Oregano?  No problem with it slurping up address books on RO,
especially if you take the option for it not to do so.

Flu- madness might have caused you to miss that option!

Cheers

Alan

-- 
Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.

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