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Had a bit of fun today...

Started by"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
First post2011-11-24 23:46 +0000
Last post2011-12-01 07:24 +0000
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  Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-11-24 23:46 +0000
    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 08:47 +0000
    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-25 09:39 +0000
    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 10:12 +0000
    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 10:23 +0000
      Re: Had a bit of fun today... Grahame Parish <maillist.parish@millers-way.net> - 2011-11-25 10:57 +0000
      Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-25 11:03 +0000
        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> - 2011-11-26 01:03 +0100
          Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-11-26 11:18 +0000
    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2011-11-25 11:29 +0000
      Re: Had a bit of fun today... Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2011-11-25 16:29 +0000
        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 15:51 +0000
          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2011-11-26 16:20 +0000
            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-11-26 16:28 +0000
              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-28 10:38 +0000
                Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-30 20:33 +0000
                  Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-01 06:53 +0100
                    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-01 08:40 +0000
                      Re: Had a bit of fun today... Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2011-12-01 09:17 +0000
                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-01 10:15 +0000
                          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-04 07:27 +0000
                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 07:50 +0000
                              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:41 +0100
                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-04 11:03 +0000
                              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 11:44 +0000
                                Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-04 15:26 +0000
                                  Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 19:07 +0000
                                    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-04 21:05 +0000
                                      Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 23:36 +0000
                                      Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:49 +0100
                                      Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 10:57 +0000
                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 11:18 +0000
                                          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 11:47 +0000
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 12:22 +0000
                                              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 14:19 +0000
                                          Re: Had a bit of fun today... charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 13:47 +0000
                                          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 16:40 +0100
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 15:46 +0000
                                              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 05:58 +0100
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 00:21 +0000
                                              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 06:17 +0100
                                                Re: Had a bit of fun today... Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-13 09:29 +0000
                                                  Re: Had a bit of fun today... Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-12-13 18:55 +0000
                                                    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 08:18 +0100
                                                    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-12-15 20:53 +0000
                                                Re: Had a bit of fun today... Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-12-15 20:42 +0000
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 12:26 +0000
                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-12 11:18 +0000
                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 19:43 +0000
                                          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 13:25 +0000
                                    Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 23:48 +0000
                                Re: Had a bit of fun today... Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 16:00 +0000
                                  Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-04 20:56 +0000
                                    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:53 +0100
                                      Re: Had a bit of fun today... M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:11 +0000
                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:19 +0000
                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 16:51 +0000
                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 18:40 +0100
                                          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 18:59 +0000
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Martin Wynn <m.wynn@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 19:09 +0000
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 23:03 +0000
                                              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 06:53 +0100
                                                Re: Had a bit of fun today... Simon <simon.willcocks@t-online.de> - 2011-12-05 23:46 -0800
                                                  Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 14:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Had a bit of fun today... Simon <simon.willcocks@t-online.de> - 2011-12-06 09:52 -0800
                                                      Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 23:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 08:58 +0000
                                                  Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 09:13 +0100
                                              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 10:06 +0000
                                                Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 14:40 +0000
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 11:06 +0000
                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-12-06 19:56 +0000
                                          Re: Had a bit of fun today... M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-12-06 20:58 +0000
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 23:10 +0000
                                              Re: Had a bit of fun today... M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-12-07 10:24 +0000
                                                Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 09:22 +0100
                                                  Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 11:09 +0000
                                      Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-05 21:14 +0000
                                        Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2011-12-06 09:49 +0000
                                          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-06 10:52 +0000
                                            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2011-12-06 11:47 +0000
            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:32 +0000
          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-26 16:27 +0000
          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:34 +0000
            Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:46 +0000
          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-27 04:56 +0100
          Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-29 08:23 +0000
            Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-11-29 10:54 +0000
              Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-29 11:55 +0000
                Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-01 07:24 +0000

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#2830

FromChris Bell <news@highpath.net>
Date2011-12-06 11:47 +0000
Message-ID<523d51bd2bnews@highpath.net>
In reply to#2829
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:

> I have read far too many horror stories about 1899 and its
> various clones from other users to even consider using any
> of them. The service seems to go down with no warning, and
> the call quality appears to to vary from adequate to
> appalling.

We've used 1899 for 6 years without any horrors.  I run a small
business and make a lot of phone calls - I'd have ditched it at the
first sign of problems.

A re-dialler, which only cost a little over a tenner, automatically
adds the extra digits to the numbers we dial, when appropriate, so the
whole thing is transparent.  We just save a lot of money - recommended!

Chris.

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#2721

FromTim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
Date2011-11-26 16:32 +0000
Message-ID<52384577aetim@invalid.org.uk>
In reply to#2715
In article <mpro.lva01n00001g600j8@ypical.nospam.invalid>, Fred Bambrough
<fred@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
> In message <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
>      wrote:

> > Given that police and local authority advice is to do this to stop
> > being bothered by nuisance calls they make me laugh as they withhold
> > their own numbers as a matter of course.

> That's because, like the hospital where I worked, they're calling from
> behind a switchboard from an extention that may not be for their sole
> use.

Undoubtedly true in some cases but AIUI if the lines are set up properly,
all outgoing calls can all be given a CLI number - perhaps for the
switchboard. 

In the case of the old bill, they will give out officer's mobile numbers
sometimes so you can contact them but they then withold those same
numbers when they call you.  Go figure.  :-/

-- 
Tim Hill of timil.com . . .
* supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone
* has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/
* accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@

... "I have a kind soul that would give you thanks, and knows not how to do it, but with tears" King John, Act v, Sc.7

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#2718

FromRussell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Date2011-11-26 16:27 +0000
Message-ID<5238450501see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
In reply to#2710
In article <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
<tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> When confronted with someone obviously from a call centre
> in Asia who says his name is 'Malcolm' I used to tell
> them they are wasting their time because the name is
> obviously a lie and I would never do business with a
> company who asks its staff to lie. This is usually
> greeted with a long silence and a click.  :-)

> These days, time is too short so I check CLI for 'Unknown'
> or 'Withheld' and don't answer. Anyone important can leave
> a message, sales drones tend not to bother, thankfully.

The calls I have had recently have all presented 020 3026
6482. If you return the call you get an American message
saying thank you for contacting PC Wizard, please hold and
one of our staff will take your call. They have been using
this number for at least a year, according to Who Calls me?

-- 
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays         E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>

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#2720

FromSteve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Date2011-11-26 16:34 +0000
Message-ID<mpro.lva0p40c518ls01ji.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
In reply to#2710
On 26 Nov, Tim Hill wrote in message
    <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk>:

> When confronted with someone obviously from a call centre in Asia who says
> his name is 'Malcolm' I used to tell them they are wasting their time
> because the name is obviously a lie

Really?

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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#2722

FromTim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
Date2011-11-26 16:46 +0000
Message-ID<523846c15btim@invalid.org.uk>
In reply to#2720
In article <mpro.lva0p40c518ls01ji.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt
<news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 26 Nov, Tim Hill wrote in message <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk>:

> > When confronted with someone obviously from a call centre in Asia who
> > says his name is 'Malcolm' I used to tell them they are wasting their
> > time because the name is obviously a lie

> Really?

You're kidding, right?

I know exactly how these places work, thanks. Using a false name is
commonplace and encouraged; often scripted. A bit like the fictitious
names which appear as signatories on a great deal of junk mail.

For another thing: there aren't too many natives of Mumbai called
Malcolm, Steve or Sharon but some clown thinks we are gullible enough to
believe them and more likely to do business with someone whose name
sounds English. See? Some people seem to believe it. Really?

On another note: the OED has announced that the threshold of use has
fallen so the word 'gullible' is being removed from all dictionaries.

www.timil.com/gullible.htm

-- 
Tim Hill of timil.com . . .
* supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone
* has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/
* accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@

... "A contract of eternal bond of love confirm'd by mutual joinder of hands" Twelfth N, Act v, Sc.1

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#2728

FromRick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2011-11-27 04:56 +0100
Message-ID<4ed1b4dc$0$5676$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
In reply to#2710
On 26/11/2011 16:51, Tim Hill wrote:

> These days, time is too short so I check CLI for 'Unknown' or 'Withheld'
> and don't answer. Anyone important can leave a message, sales drones tend
> not to bother, thankfully.

When I used to live in the UK, I had a little program that would check 
for an unknown number and get ArcFax ready to take the call on the first 
ring.

These days, "hello" and "âllo" sound alike, and if some bod starts 
yammering on and on about something to sell you [*], I either hang up or 
say, in my best clueless English, "what the hell are you on about?". 
Usually, ironically, it is Orange themselves trying to punt their 
satellite receiver kit...


* - There's some quirk of French law where agreements made over the
     phone can be held as binding, this is used to screw people over
     depressingly regularly.
     On the bright side, there are (were?) many mailshot adverts that
     screamed "YOU HAVE WON TEN THOUSAND EUROS" and on the back,
     admitting that it was a draw and you had to provide all sorts of
     info in order to be entered into the draw. Some old lady took 'em
     to court and the court found in her favour - it said she'd won in
     inch high letters, so cough up the cash...


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#2752

FromBrian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk>
Date2011-11-29 08:23 +0000
Message-ID<5239a4320fbbailey@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#2710
In article <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk>,
   Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <csam0c5dc13752.Bryn@yo.rk>, Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> wrote:
> > In a mad moment - Chris Bell  mumbled :

> > > Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. Obviously a
> > >> call centre by the accent.  Would normally just put the phone down,
> > >> but played them along since I was killing time.

My brother has a simple, but immediately, effective technique, he says,
'I'm bankrupt'!

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#2753

From"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk>
Date2011-11-29 10:54 +0000
Message-ID<5239b201d3dave@davenoise.co.uk>
In reply to#2752
In article <5239a4320fbbailey@argonet.co.uk>,
   Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk>,
>    Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > In article <csam0c5dc13752.Bryn@yo.rk>, Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> wrote:
> > > In a mad moment - Chris Bell  mumbled :

> > > > Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >> Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. Obviously a
> > > >> call centre by the accent.  Would normally just put the phone down,
> > > >> but played them along since I was killing time.

> My brother has a simple, but immediately, effective technique, he says,
> 'I'm bankrupt'!

That could be a problem if it got on a database?

-- 
*In some places, C:\ is the root of all directories *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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#2754

FromBrian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk>
Date2011-11-29 11:55 +0000
Message-ID<5239b792a6bbailey@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#2753
> > > > In a mad moment - Chris Bell  mumbled :

> > > > > Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > >> Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang.
> > > > >> Obviously a call centre by the accent.  Would normally just put
> > > > >> the phone down, but played them along since I was killing time.

> > My brother has a simple, but immediately, effective technique, he
> > says, 'I'm bankrupt'!

> That could be a problem if it got on a database?

Well, that had occurred to me too, but that's his problem. At his advanced
age I don't think he cares very much. Just wants to get these idiots out
of his remaining hair, PDQ.  8-)

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#2786

FromBrian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk>
Date2011-12-01 07:24 +0000
Message-ID<523aa67c43bbailey@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#2754

> > > My brother has a simple, but immediately, effective technique, he
> > > says, 'I'm bankrupt'!

> > That could be a problem if it got on a database?

> Well, that had occurred to me too, but that's his problem. At his
> advanced age I don't think he cares very much. Just wants to get these
> idiots out of his remaining hair, PDQ.  8-)

Ah, got it wrong apparently. He says 'I'm a pensioner' - immediate
termination of conversation. The 'I'm a bankrupt' was a speculative
strategy.

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