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| Started by | druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> |
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| First post | 2011-10-29 16:33 +0100 |
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VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 16:33 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 16:52 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 18:12 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen patric <patric@invalid.net> - 2011-10-29 18:11 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 22:25 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-10-30 22:37 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 01:00 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 22:36 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 18:53 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 20:09 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen fwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 11:20 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-11-01 12:02 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 12:31 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-01 15:52 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2011-11-01 18:12 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 22:14 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-02 18:02 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-02 18:04 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-02 22:08 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-01 12:54 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 12:23 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen fwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 16:47 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 21:06 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-04 17:12 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-04 20:00 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-04 20:36 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 06:20 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 06:24 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-05 16:19 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 17:54 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-06 16:37 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 20:09 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-13 10:51 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-19 10:12 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 21:44 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 09:24 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 19:59 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 04:04 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-11-07 10:04 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 18:06 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 18:59 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2011-11-07 19:24 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 21:25 +0000
SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 05:33 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-08 21:54 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-08 22:11 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 06:38 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 06:20 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-09 13:29 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 16:34 +0100
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-09 16:59 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-09 19:40 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 21:45 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 14:56 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-11-09 20:32 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 22:03 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-11-09 22:32 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-09 23:02 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-10 15:44 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-10 20:13 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-10 23:36 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 05:45 +0100
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-11 16:40 +0100
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 02:10 +0100
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 07:48 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-12 09:18 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-12 11:44 +0100
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 09:32 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 12:22 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-13 13:30 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 01:20 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:11 +0100
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-14 19:08 +0100
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 19:25 +0000
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 05:38 +0100
Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-12 13:31 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-06 12:56 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 10:50 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 19:39 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:24 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Sion <s.cleaver@mail.com> - 2011-10-29 09:46 -0700
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:40 +0200
Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 19:41 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2011-10-30 21:49 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:26 +0200
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:47 +0200
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:28 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:40 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:45 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 00:00 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 00:03 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-10-30 06:38 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:52 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 17:22 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 20:12 +0100
VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 21:21 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> - 2011-11-14 13:15 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 21:21 +0200
Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:52 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 00:07 +0100
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 01:05 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 18:48 +0000
Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 20:23 +0100
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-07 18:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <522e8a0c77dave@triffid.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2345 |
In article <3905592e52.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>, <cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid> wrote: > In message <4eb74ac0$0$30757$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> > Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > On 06/11/2011 20:59, Ron Briscoe wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > What I meant in my normally strange manner was that I know that it > > > works on an Iyonix running RO5.xx but do not know if it works on > > > RPCEmu running RO5.xx. (I don't think that VRPC runs RO5.) > > > Has anyone tried running RO5 with VRPC? > It would be useful if both VRPC & RPCEmu could have the choice of > running different versions of the OS - like RedSquirrel. > Plus a 32bit & ARM7 only modes for testing purposes. Yes I've tried on a couple of occasions but couldn't get it to work, something about the ROMs that VRPC doesn't like. Additionally, I've thought about putting RO 6.20 on RPCEmu that doesn't work either, ROM size/ compression. Dave Dave -- Dave Triffid
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| From | SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-07 19:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <gemini.4eb830690004e51c0870%nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> |
| In reply to | #2351 |
Rick Murray wrote: >> Has anyone tried running RO5 with VRPC? > Yes I've tried on a couple of occasions but couldn't get it to work, > something about the ROMs that VRPC doesn't like. Did you try the soft-load version? -- Stewart Goldwater http://janusg.co.nr
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-07 21:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <522e9761afdave@triffid.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2353 |
In article <gemini.4eb830690004e51c0870%nwsgrp@ntlworld.com>, SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Rick Murray wrote: > >> Has anyone tried running RO5 with VRPC? > > Yes I've tried on a couple of occasions but couldn't get it to work, > > something about the ROMs that VRPC doesn't like. > Did you try the soft-load version? Yup! D. -- Dave Triffid
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| From | David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-07 05:33 +0000 |
| Subject | SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <1e37402e52.pittdj+@iyonix.home> |
| In reply to | #2336 |
In message <522e0bbc71ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > In article <ac94d12d52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, > Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: >>> SmartMenu by Dick Tanis >>> <www.theochem.ru.nl/~dtanis/ >>> Will do that for RO5 but wether it will work in an emulator I know not. >> Not sure what you mean by and emulator, but it's working here on VRPC >> and RISC OS 4.02. > VRPC is an emulator. It emulates a RISC PC in various flavours on a Windows > or Mac machine ;-). > What I meant in my normally strange manner was that I know that it works on > an Iyonix running RO5.xx but do not know if it works on RPCEmu running > RO5.xx. (I don't think that VRPC runs RO5.) SmartMenu 0.21a, with WimpSWIVe 0.09, does work on rpcemu OS5.17, and it works on the ARMini. -- David Pitt MessengerPro 6 on an ARMini running RISC OS 5
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| From | Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-08 21:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2343 |
On 7 Nov 2011 David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <522e0bbc71ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <ac94d12d52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
>> Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> SmartMenu by Dick Tanis
>>>> <www.theochem.ru.nl/~dtanis/
>>>> Will do that for RO5 but wether it will work in an emulator I know not.
>>> Not sure what you mean by and emulator, but it's working here on VRPC
>>> and RISC OS 4.02.
>> VRPC is an emulator. It emulates a RISC PC in various flavours on a Windows
>> or Mac machine ;-).
>> What I meant in my normally strange manner was that I know that it works on
>> an Iyonix running RO5.xx but do not know WIVeif it works on RPCEmu running
>> RO5.xx. (I don't think that VRPC runs RO5.)
> SmartMenu 0.21a, with WimpSWIVe 0.09, does work on rpcemu OS5.17, and
> it works on the ARMini.
I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if I
try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message
"WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still using
it". What am I doing wrong, please?
TIA,
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-08 22:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <76761f2f52.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> |
| In reply to | #2370 |
In message <b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
>>>
>> SmartMenu 0.21a, with WimpSWIVe 0.09, does work on rpcemu OS5.17, and
>> it works on the ARMini.
> I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if I
> try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message
> "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still using
> it". What am I doing wrong, please?
> TIA,
> With best wishes,
> Peter.
Suggests you already have a copy of WimpSWIVe running.
F12 and *help WimpSWIVe first and see what it says.
Have you !LongNames running?
Doug
--
Using an IYONIX pc and RISC OS 5.17, the thinking person's alternative
operating system to Microsoft Windows.
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| From | David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 06:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <d8e94d2f52.pittdj+@iyonix.home> |
| In reply to | #2371 |
In message <76761f2f52.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote: > In message <b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> > Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > [snip] >>> SmartMenu 0.21a, with WimpSWIVe 0.09, does work on rpcemu OS5.17, and >>> it works on the ARMini. >> I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if I >> try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message >> "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still using >> it". What am I doing wrong, please? > Suggests you already have a copy of WimpSWIVe running. > F12 and *help WimpSWIVe first and see what it says. > Have you !LongNames running? I have just posted a reply, I knew there was something else other than !WimpLog that used WimpSWIVe but the memory would not oblige. It is !FullNames here. It has its own way of getting over the "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still using it" syndrome. It can load 0.08 over a pre-existing earlier version but would still leave a later run of !SmartMenu stuffed. -- David Pitt MessengerPro 6 on an ARMini running RISC OS 5
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| From | David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 06:20 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <28454c2f52.pittdj+@iyonix.home> |
| In reply to | #2370 |
In message <b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > On 7 Nov 2011 David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> wrote: [snip] >> SmartMenu 0.21a, with WimpSWIVe 0.09, does work on rpcemu OS5.17, and >> it works on the ARMini. > I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if I > try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message > "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still using > it". What am I doing wrong, please? This issue, which is not limited to the ARMini, arises because WimpSWIVe using applications use a locally stored WimpSWIVe which is OK until another WimpSWIVe using application that requires a later version of WimpSWIVe attempts to start. The module cannot be updated once it is in use. I re-arrange things so that the latest WimpSWIVE is in !System and edit all the WimpSWIVe using applications to rmensure from !System. Here it is !WimpLog that would load its own local WimpSWIVe 0.03, meaning that !SmartMenu requiring 0.09 is stuffed. All the rmensure in !Run and any in !Boot need to be of the form :- RMEnsure WimpSWIVe 0.09 RMLoad System:Modules.WimpSWIVe There are other solutions. -- David Pitt MessengerPro 6 on an ARMini running RISC OS 5
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| From | Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 13:29 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <522f7385afbasura@invalid.addr.uk> |
| In reply to | #2370 |
In article <b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young [snip] > I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if > I try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message > "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still > using it". What am I doing wrong, please? Place in Boot.Choices.Boot.PreDesk and reboot - avoids all the trouble. Fantastic machines aren't they - I couldn't afford the cost of the ARMini but I did the next best thing - I bought a Beagleboard -xM from Farnells, followed the excellent instructions on the ROOL site and before I new it was presented with a RISC OS desktop. I didn't want to compromise on the monitor resolution so purchased a 1920 x 1080, 30Hz monitor from RComp - another excellent purchase once I had tweaked the backlight brightness and the contrast. Regards Richard
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 16:34 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <4eba9d94$0$5690$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2378 |
On 09/11/2011 14:29, Richard Ashbery wrote: > 30Hz monitor *30* ? Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 16:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <f6bb862f52.jess@itworkshop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2382 |
In message <4eba9d94$0$5690$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 09/11/2011 14:29, Richard Ashbery wrote:
>> 30Hz monitor
> *30* ?
Yes, that isn't a typo. But it will be LCD so no flicker.
--
Jess Iyonix
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| From | Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 19:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <522f957a75basura@invalid.addr.uk> |
| In reply to | #2384 |
In article <f6bb862f52.jess@itworkshop.invalid>, Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote: > In message <4eba9d94$0$5690$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> > Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > On 09/11/2011 14:29, Richard Ashbery wrote: > >> 30Hz monitor > > *30* ? > Yes, that isn't a typo. But it will be LCD so no flicker. The point I was trying to make was that the monitor (1920 x 1080 WS) must be capable of working on a vertical refresh rate of 30Hz. For those who need to know more about the Beagleboard video restrictions please refer to...... http://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/OMAPVideo Sadly very few new LCD widescreen 1920 x 1080 monitors are compatible with the Beagleboard. Do not attempt to buy the BenQ 24" LED V2410 monitor on the ROOL Cortex-A8 hardware compatibility list as it won't work - that's assuming you can get one. I wonder if it ever did - the ROM date is 19-01-2010. Richard
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| From | Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-09 21:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <aaf2a02f52.chris@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2387 |
In message <522f957a75basura@invalid.addr.uk>
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
> In article <f6bb862f52.jess@itworkshop.invalid>,
> Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> In message <4eba9d94$0$5690$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
>> Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 09/11/2011 14:29, Richard Ashbery wrote:
>>>> 30Hz monitor
>>> *30* ?
>> Yes, that isn't a typo. But it will be LCD so no flicker.
> The point I was trying to make was that the monitor (1920 x 1080 WS)
> must be capable of working on a vertical refresh rate of 30Hz. For
> those who need to know more about the Beagleboard video restrictions
> please refer to......
> http://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/OMAPVideo
> Sadly very few new LCD widescreen 1920 x 1080 monitors are compatible
> with the Beagleboard. Do not attempt to buy the BenQ 24" LED V2410
> monitor on the ROOL Cortex-A8 hardware compatibility list as it won't
> work - that's assuming you can get one. I wonder if it ever did - the
> ROM date is 19-01-2010.
R-Comp have a range of compatible monitors, which have been tested
with the ARMini
--
Chris Hughes
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| From | Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 14:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <0f737b2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2378 |
On 9 Nov 2011 Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
> In article <b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young
> [snip]
>> I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if
>> I try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message
>> "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still
>> using it". What am I doing wrong, please?
> Place in Boot.Choices.Boot.PreDesk and reboot - avoids all the
> trouble.
Yes, that's done it nicely, thanks. To be fair, I did have a burst of
electricity in the brain cell, and wondered if that was the thing to
do, bit I hadn't got a round tuit. Thanks also to David and Doug for
their suggestions, which I was going to follow up. I have no idea what
other app wanted that module; the Usual Suspects mentioned elsewhere
weren't running.
> Fantastic machines aren't they - I couldn't afford the cost of the
> ARMini but I did the next best thing - I bought a Beagleboard -xM
> from Farnells, followed the excellent instructions on the ROOL site
> and before I new it was presented with a RISC OS desktop. I didn't
> want to compromise on the monitor resolution so purchased a 1920 x
> 1080, 30Hz monitor from RComp - another excellent purchase once I had
> tweaked the backlight brightness and the contrast.
I wasn't brave or knowledgeable enough to build one myself, so I
thought it would be reasonable to spend more to get something that
might even last me for the rest of my computing days. :-)
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 20:32 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <6a379a2f52.druck@druck.freeuk.net> |
| In reply to | #2378 |
On 9 Nov 2011 Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote: > In article <b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young > [snip] >> I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if >> I try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message >> "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still >> using it". What am I doing wrong, please? > Place in Boot.Choices.Boot.PreDesk and reboot - avoids all the > trouble. Execpt when a later version is installed in to the correct place in !System and then you find you are never using it. ---druck -- The ARM Club Free Software - http://www.armclub.org.uk/free/ 32 bit Conversions Page - http://www.armclub.org.uk/32bit/
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| From | Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-09 22:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <278ca22f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2388 |
On 9 Nov 2011 druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On 9 Nov 2011 Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
>> In article <b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young
>> [snip]
>>> I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if
>>> I try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message
>>> "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still
>>> using it". What am I doing wrong, please?
>> Place in Boot.Choices.Boot.PreDesk and reboot - avoids all the
>> trouble.
> Execpt when a later version is installed in to the correct place in
> !System and then you find you are never using it.
OK. For the ignorant, please, where is the correct place in !System?
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | druck <news@druck.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-09 22:32 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <j9ev1q$5ah$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2391 |
On 09/11/2011 22:03, Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 9 Nov 2011 druck<news@druck.freeuk.com> wrote: > >> On 9 Nov 2011 Richard Ashbery<basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote: > >>> In article<b9e91d2f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young > >>> [snip] > >>>> I'm very new to the ARMini (it just arrived the afternoon), but if >>>> I try to run SmartMenu it comes up with the weird error message >>>> "WimpSWIVe cannot be quit right now, as some clients are still >>>> using it". What am I doing wrong, please? > >>> Place in Boot.Choices.Boot.PreDesk and reboot - avoids all the >>> trouble. > >> Execpt when a later version is installed in to the correct place in >> !System and then you find you are never using it. > > OK. For the ignorant, please, where is the correct place in !System? Hopefully any program using it supplies a !System which can be merged. If not, the authors need to be slapped about a bit. ---druck
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| From | Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-09 23:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <mpro.luf1cr07cx91s01pl.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #2391 |
On 9 Nov, Dr Peter Young wrote in message
<278ca22f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>:
> On 9 Nov 2011 druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
>
> > Execpt when a later version is installed in to the correct place in
> > !System and then you find you are never using it.
>
> OK. For the ignorant, please, where is the correct place in !System?
It depends. *Probably* !System.310.Modules in the case of WimpSWIve, but it
will be determined by what versions of the OS individual implementations of
the module support. Then individual applications just RMEnsure the module
from System:Modules and that's it. To set this up by hand, you'll need to
know what you're doing.
But that said, I'm with Druck: leaving it as you now have it isn't an
option, as it *will* come back and bite you sooner or later.
I hate to say it, but this is *precisely* the problem that package managers
are designed to sort out...
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
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| From | Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-10 15:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lugbpk00aretu03i0.vinceh@softrock.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2393 |
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote: [...] > I hate to say it, but this is *precisely* the problem that package > managers are designed to sort out... Except that all the package management in the world won't help if the writer of the software shoves the module in the application directory and loads it from there - which is what seems to be happening here. If they can't be bothered to provide the required modules in the correct way before, I somehow doubt they'd do so if they supplied it in package form - instead, you'd just get the app *containing the module* in the package. Problem: Not solved. *big cheesy grin and thumbs up* -- Soft Rock Software: http://www.softrock.co.uk Vince M Hudd: http://misc.vinceh.com/about-vinceh/ RISCOSitory: http://www.riscository.com
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| From | Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-10 20:13 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lugo6k03g9do001k3.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #2417 |
On 10 Nov, Vince M Hudd wrote in message
<mpro.lugbpk00aretu03i0.vinceh@softrock.co.uk>:
> Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I hate to say it, but this is *precisely* the problem that package
> > managers are designed to sort out...
>
> Except that all the package management in the world won't help if the
> writer of the software shoves the module in the application directory and
> loads it from there - which is what seems to be happening here.
It's a lot simpler to say "this package is dependent on the WimpSWIVe
package" (to the package manager, not the user) and point the !Run file to
the place that the WimpSWIVe package installs the module than it is to try
and write instructions to tell the user how to set it all up manually.
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
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