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VRPC on a USB pen

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  VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 16:33 +0100
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 16:52 +0100
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 18:12 +0100
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen patric <patric@invalid.net> - 2011-10-29 18:11 +0000
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 22:25 +0000
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-10-30 22:37 +0000
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 01:00 +0000
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 22:36 +0000
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 18:53 +0000
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 20:09 +0100
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen fwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 11:20 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-11-01 12:02 +0000
                  Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 12:31 +0000
                    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-01 15:52 +0100
                      Re: VRPC on a USB pen "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2011-11-01 18:12 +0000
                        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 22:14 +0000
                        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-02 18:02 +0100
                          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-02 18:04 +0100
                          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-02 22:08 +0000
                  Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-01 12:54 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 12:23 +0000
                  Re: VRPC on a USB pen fwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 16:47 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 21:06 +0100
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-04 17:12 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-04 20:00 +0100
                  Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-04 20:36 +0000
                    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 06:20 +0100
                      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 06:24 +0000
                  Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-05 16:19 +0000
                    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 17:54 +0100
                      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-06 16:37 +0000
                        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 20:09 +0000
                          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-13 10:51 +0000
                            Re: VRPC on a USB pen Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-19 10:12 +0000
                    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 21:44 +0000
                      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 09:24 +0000
                        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 19:59 +0000
                          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 04:04 +0100
                            Re: VRPC on a USB pen cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-11-07 10:04 +0000
                              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 18:06 +0100
                              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 18:59 +0000
                                Re: VRPC on a USB pen SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2011-11-07 19:24 +0000
                                  Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 21:25 +0000
                          SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 05:33 +0000
                            Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-08 21:54 +0000
                              Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-08 22:11 +0000
                                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 06:38 +0000
                              Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 06:20 +0000
                              Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-09 13:29 +0000
                                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 16:34 +0100
                                  Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-09 16:59 +0000
                                    Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-09 19:40 +0000
                                      Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 21:45 +0000
                                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 14:56 +0000
                                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-11-09 20:32 +0000
                                  Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 22:03 +0000
                                    Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-11-09 22:32 +0000
                                    Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-09 23:02 +0000
                                      Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-10 15:44 +0000
                                        Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-10 20:13 +0000
                                          Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-10 23:36 +0000
                                            Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 05:45 +0100
                                              Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-11 16:40 +0100
                                                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 02:10 +0100
                                                  Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 07:48 +0000
                                                  Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-12 09:18 +0000
                                                  Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-12 11:44 +0100
                                          Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 09:32 +0000
                                            Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 12:22 +0000
                                              Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-13 13:30 +0000
                                                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 01:20 +0000
                                              Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:11 +0100
                                                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-14 19:08 +0100
                                                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 19:25 +0000
                                        Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 05:38 +0100
                                    Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-12 13:31 +0000
                  Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-06 12:56 +0000
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 10:50 +0000
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 19:39 +0100
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:24 +0100
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Sion <s.cleaver@mail.com> - 2011-10-29 09:46 -0700
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:40 +0200
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 19:41 +0100
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2011-10-30 21:49 +0000
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:26 +0200
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:47 +0200
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:28 +0100
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:40 +0100
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:45 +0100
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 00:00 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 00:03 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-10-30 06:38 +0000
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:52 +0100
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 17:22 +0000
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 20:12 +0100
          VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 21:21 +0000
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> - 2011-11-14 13:15 +0000
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 21:21 +0200
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:52 +0100
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 00:07 +0100
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 01:05 +0000
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 18:48 +0000
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 20:23 +0100

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#2238

FromStuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Date2011-11-01 12:23 +0000
Message-ID<522b4eccfdSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#2236
In article
<gemini.ltzbhq0011wh302io.thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk>,
   fwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
> A simple unobtrusive Re-cycle bin like the one in RO4.37 upwards or the
> one in Windows 95 upwards. (Or does RO5 now have one (it's been a while
> since I used it)?) Cheers!

But the recycle bin supplied with RO4, !Recyclone, isn't to do with ROL as
far as I know.  It's by Archifishal Software so may be useable on RO5 if
you can locate a copy. There were others around such as the freeware
!PV_Bin  http://www.vigay.com/software/bin.html This may be tweakable but
Andrew Conroy, I think, is the man you need to talk to.

-- 
Stuart Winsor

Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org


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#2244

Fromfwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk>
Date2011-11-01 16:47 +0000
Message-ID<gemini.ltzqn10005bvz031s.thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk>
In reply to#2238
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article
> <gemini.ltzbhq0011wh302io.thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk>,
>    fwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
> > A simple unobtrusive Re-cycle bin like the one in RO4.37 upwards or the
> > one in Windows 95 upwards. (Or does RO5 now have one (it's been a while
> > since I used it)?) Cheers!
> 
> But the recycle bin supplied with RO4, !Recyclone, isn't to do with ROL as
> far as I know.  It's by Archifishal Software so may be useable on RO5 if
> you can locate a copy. There were others around such as the freeware
> !PV_Bin  http://www.vigay.com/software/bin.html This may be tweakable but
> Andrew Conroy, I think, is the man you need to talk to.
>
I think you'll find it came with RO4.36 (not 4.37 as I originally wrote).
Cheers! 

-- 
Graham
Website - http://www.thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk

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#2255

FromRick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2011-11-01 21:06 +0100
Message-ID<4eb05143$0$30795$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
In reply to#2236
On 01/11/2011 12:20, fwibbler wrote:

> A simple unobtrusive Re-cycle bin like the one in RO4.37 upwards or the one
> in Windows 95 upwards.

Should be a doddle to hook into the file vector to do. Isn't there a PD 
utility that can do this?


You do - of course - realise that the Microsoft Recycle bin is 
limited/broken? Try deleting a file off an SD card or USB stick by 
mistake and see how far you get? No Recycle and no UNDELETE command. And 
as it is probably FAT32, those utils that scanned the directory 
structure to display deleted files (usually in the form "?YFILE.TXT") 
fail utterly with FAT32.

Oh, and if you have a harddisc of 300Gb, the Recycle bin maxes out at... 
is it 2Gb or 4Gb? I deleted some video files and realised I wanted one 
back, but it had been thrown away due to Recycle bin limitations.

[both of these with XP Pro - things may be different with Vista/7]


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#2307

FromMichael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de>
Date2011-11-04 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<522cf4c179nospam@cityweb.de>
In reply to#2227
In article <4eaef265$0$18796$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 31/10/2011 19:53, Chris Hughes wrote:

> > Well ARMini is good (I have one), but to me RO 5 takes me back 10
> > years.

> Well, RO5 is open source, so what ought to be done to advance your 
> pointer by a decade? What additional functionality, or UI gloss, is RO5 
> lacking? In what direction would you like the dangling carrot incentives 
> for ROOL to move?

I am especially missing the ability of !Paint to import and export some more
file formats (PNG...). Also you can reorder the prites by drag and drop,
change the DPI in x,y direction etc. Also I am missing some of the graphical
enhancements like color fade of the background. Toolbar in filer windows.
Support for alpha-Sprites...

Michael

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#2308

FromRick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2011-11-04 20:00 +0100
Message-ID<4eb43655$0$30764$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
In reply to#2307
On 04/11/2011 18:12, Michael Gerbracht wrote:

> I am especially missing the ability of !Paint to import and export some more
> file formats (PNG...).

That's a reasonable request - if only JPEG, PNG, and BMP initially. It 
would be fairly easy to cobble on BMP (I did so to FYEO2), but the maths 
behind the other two are more than my itty-bitty brain could handle, 
although we have JPEGRender which might be able to act as, at least, a 
loader?


> Also you can reorder the sprites by drag and drop,

Given it is usual to look up sprites by name to get a pointer, does it 
matter?


> Also I am missing some of the graphical enhancements like color fade
> of the background.

Well, Paint never pretended to be a professional art package - look at 
how simplistic the spray can is. What would be *nice* (as in I use it 
quite a lot) is a copy-merge option a bit like spraycan (only more 
blended than braindead pixel replacement) which takes its source pixels 
from somewhere else in the image. This is very useful for touching up 
photos for wonky pixels, flash effects, etc.


Tell me - had the remove rows/columns bug been fixed yet?


Does anybody use the AND OR NOT (etc) options? :-)


> Toolbar in filer windows.

? A pop up menu doesn't provide the things you need? One thing I like 
about RISC OS is it doesn't waste screen space on menus and such that 
are used infrequently but are omnipresent.


> Support for alpha-Sprites...

In what context? The filer? The desktop generally?

Perhaps this would be aided (re. another concurrent discussion) if we 
had "SpriteOp" 101 which took a sprite and a location and it plotted it, 
alleviating the user from doing all the groundwork in setting up stuff. 
101 chosen for its (American?) educational meaning. :-)


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#2309

FromDave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk>
Date2011-11-04 20:36 +0000
Message-ID<522d076500dave@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#2308
In article <4eb43655$0$30764$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[Snippy]
> Well, Paint never pretended to be a professional art package - look at 
> how simplistic the spray can is. What would be *nice* (as in I use it 
> quite a lot) is a copy-merge option a bit like spraycan (only more 
> blended than braindead pixel replacement) which takes its source pixels 
> from somewhere else in the image. This is very useful for touching up 
> photos for wonky pixels, flash effects, etc.


A Spray Can Rick?
Paint hasn't had a Spray can since earlier this century, they took it out
in some early Select version... (can't remember which) last version of
Paint I can remember with the Spraycan was version 2.41 (Nov 2002).

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid

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#2314

FromRick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2011-11-05 06:20 +0100
Message-ID<4eb4c794$0$30752$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
In reply to#2309
On 04/11/2011 21:36, Dave Symes wrote:

> A Spray Can Rick?

A Spray Can Dave.


> Paint hasn't had a Spray can since earlier this century,

<starts RPCEmu, loads !Paint, selects Spray Can>


> they took it out in some early Select version...

Ah, we're talking RISC OS 5 here. That explains it.


> Paint I can remember with the Spraycan was version 2.41 (Nov 2002).

RO5 version is 2.08. I wonder what's changed since - how good are ROL's 
changelogs?


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#2317

FromDave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk>
Date2011-11-05 06:24 +0000
Message-ID<522d3d4b4ddave@triffid.co.uk>
In reply to#2314
In article <4eb4c794$0$30752$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 04/11/2011 21:36, Dave Symes wrote:

> > A Spray Can Rick?

> A Spray Can Dave.

> > Paint hasn't had a Spray can since earlier this century,

> <starts RPCEmu, loads !Paint, selects Spray Can>

> > they took it out in some early Select version...

> Ah, we're talking RISC OS 5 here. That explains it.

> > Paint I can remember with the Spraycan was version 2.41 (Nov 2002).

> RO5 version is 2.08. I wonder what's changed since - how good are ROL's 
> changelogs?

> Best wishes,
> Rick.


Just pulling yer leg Rick.
I know the ROOL RO still has the spray can, and to be honest, I do miss it
in the Select versions... So much so, I have an old version tucked away, I
haul out whenever I do need Paint with a Spray can.

D.

-- 

Dave Triffid

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#2321

FromMichael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de>
Date2011-11-05 16:19 +0000
Message-ID<522d73b760nospam@cityweb.de>
In reply to#2308
In article <4eb43655$0$30764$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray
<heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 04/11/2011 18:12, Michael Gerbracht wrote:

> > Also you can reorder the sprites by drag and drop,
> Given it is usual to look up sprites by name to get a pointer, does it
> matter?

Yes, just to get some order into the sprite files. Probably it is not that
important, but it is one of those moments were you think "on no, this is RISC
OS 5, I can't do it simply".

> > Also I am missing some of the graphical enhancements like color fade of
> > the background.

> Well, Paint never pretended to be a professional art package - look at how
> simplistic the spray can is. What would be *nice* (as in I use it quite a
> lot) is a copy-merge option a bit like spraycan (only more blended than
> braindead pixel replacement) which takes its source pixels from somewhere
> else in the image. This is very useful for touching up photos for wonky
> pixels, flash effects, etc.

Here I meant the desktop background. Again maybe not so important but I am
used to it now and don't want to miss it (of course you can always a sprite
to get the same result but not without loosing some memory).

> > Toolbar in filer windows.
> ? A pop up menu doesn't provide the things you need? One thing I like
> about RISC OS is it doesn't waste screen space on menus and such that are
> used infrequently but are omnipresent.

Ok, maybe a matter of taste but also on select you can deactivate it if you
do not want it. Also nice in select is the ability to change the filetype by
a list of types, so you do not need to switch to the keyboard. Also the menus
move towards the middle of the screen when you reach the border of the
screen. I also like this feature.

> > Support for alpha-Sprites...

> In what context? The filer? The desktop generally?

Yes, for example I need this for the luafox sprites. The RISC OS 6 versions
are much nicer than the RISC OS 5 ones. 

Also there is a problem with RISC OS 5 and automatic redraw: If you are using
the toolbox and define a clicked and unclicked state in a toolaction button
then the transparent parts of a sprite are not redrawn if the icon changes.
You only notice this if you have a custom background. On Select everything is
ok.

Michael

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#2322

FromRick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2011-11-05 17:54 +0100
Message-ID<4eb56a57$0$18793$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
In reply to#2321
On 05/11/2011 17:19, Michael Gerbracht wrote:

>>> Also I am missing some of the graphical enhancements like color fade of
>>> the background.
> Here I meant the desktop background.

You mean like how XP fades out when given the logout prompt?


> Also nice in select is the ability to change the filetype by a list of types,
> so you do not need to switch to the keyboard.

Indeed that is useful - FilerPro (Filer+) has done that since RISC OS 
3.10. :-)


> Also the menus move towards the middle of the screen when you reach the border
> of the screen. I also like this feature.

What, you mean newly opened submenus switch to opening on the left 
instead of piling up like a motorway wreck? Yes, that is a useful 
feature. Heck, even *Windows* does this. :-P


> Also there is a problem with RISC OS 5 and automatic redraw: If you are using
> the toolbox and define a clicked and unclicked state in a toolaction button

Bug in RISC OS or bug in Toolbox?


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#2335

FromMichael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de>
Date2011-11-06 16:37 +0000
Message-ID<522df94076nospam@cityweb.de>
In reply to#2322
In article <4eb56a57$0$18793$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray
<heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 05/11/2011 17:19, Michael Gerbracht wrote:

> >>> Also I am missing some of the graphical enhancements like color fade of
> >>> the background.
> > Here I meant the desktop background.
> You mean like how XP fades out when given the logout prompt?

No, on Select you can not only set a plain desktop background colur but
define a top and bottom color and fade it inbetween.

> > Also the menus move towards the middle of the screen when you reach the
> > border of the screen. I also like this feature.
> What, you mean newly opened submenus switch to opening on the left instead
> of piling up like a motorway wreck? Yes, that is a useful feature. Heck,
> even *Windows* does this. :-P

Not quite. Not the newly opend submenu is shifted but the rest of the menu
tree is shifted to the left. So the current submenu is close to the left
screen edge and the rest of the menu is shifted towards the middle of the
screen.

Michael

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#2337

FromRon Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2011-11-06 20:09 +0000
Message-ID<522e0ca260ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
In reply to#2335
In article <522df94076nospam@cityweb.de>,
   Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> wrote:
> > > Here I meant the desktop background.
> > You mean like how XP fades out when given the logout prompt?

> No, on Select you can not only set a plain desktop background colur but
> define a top and bottom color and fade it inbetween.

FadeBack by Richie Goodwin;
<http://www.goodwin.uk.com/richard/programs/fadeback/>
According to the help file this aims to be better than the Select version
;-).

Don't forget to say thank you.

Regards Ron.

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#2467

FromMichael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de>
Date2011-11-13 10:51 +0000
Message-ID<52317465b7nospam@cityweb.de>
In reply to#2337
In article <522e0ca260ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>,
   Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <522df94076nospam@cityweb.de>,
>    Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> wrote:
> > > > Here I meant the desktop background.
> > > You mean like how XP fades out when given the logout prompt?
> > No, on Select you can not only set a plain desktop background colur but
> > define a top and bottom color and fade it inbetween.
> FadeBack by Richie Goodwin;
> <http://www.goodwin.uk.com/richard/programs/fadeback/>
> According to the help file this aims to be better than the Select version
> ;-).

Yes, thanks, that seems to be a nice solution. I have probably missed it
since I am not using RISC OS 5 as a production system. But I have ordered the
new ROOL USB stick and will test it then.

Michael

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#2583

FromRussell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Date2011-11-19 10:12 +0000
Message-ID<523487db13see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
In reply to#2467
Does anyone have any experiences to report on this?

TBH, there has been far less comment than I personally
expected.

Anyone got e-mail to work on it?

-- 
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#2325

FromRon Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2011-11-05 21:44 +0000
Message-ID<522d917ad2ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
In reply to#2321
In article <522d73b760nospam@cityweb.de>,
   Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> wrote:

[Snip]

> . Also the menus
> move towards the middle of the screen when you reach the border of the
> screen. I also like this feature.

SmartMenu by Dick Tanis
<www.theochem.ru.nl/~dtanis/
Will do that for RO5 but wether it will work in an emulator I know not.

If any of the software on that site is any use to you then do not forget to
send Dick a thank you email. His address is in the help file inside
SmartMenu.

You should always thank people who have shared the benefits of their labour
with you and besides it encourages them to produce more :-)).

[Snip]

Regards Ron.

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#2329

FromDr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk>
Date2011-11-06 09:24 +0000
Message-ID<ac94d12d52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
In reply to#2325
On 5 Nov 2011  Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <522d73b760nospam@cityweb.de>,
>    Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> wrote:

> [Snip]

>> . Also the menus
>> move towards the middle of the screen when you reach the border of the
>> screen. I also like this feature.

> SmartMenu by Dick Tanis
> <www.theochem.ru.nl/~dtanis/
> Will do that for RO5 but wether it will work in an emulator I know not.

Not sure what you mean by and emulator, but it's working here on VRPC 
and RISC OS 4.02.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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#2336

FromRon Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date2011-11-06 19:59 +0000
Message-ID<522e0bbc71ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk>
In reply to#2329
In article <ac94d12d52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
   Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> > SmartMenu by Dick Tanis
> > <www.theochem.ru.nl/~dtanis/
> > Will do that for RO5 but wether it will work in an emulator I know not.

> Not sure what you mean by and emulator, but it's working here on VRPC 
> and RISC OS 4.02.

VRPC is an emulator. It emulates a RISC PC in various flavours on a Windows
or Mac machine ;-).

What I meant in my normally strange manner was that I know that it works on
an Iyonix running RO5.xx but do not know if it works on RPCEmu running
RO5.xx. (I don't think that VRPC runs RO5.)

Regards Ron.

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#2341

FromRick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2011-11-07 04:04 +0100
Message-ID<4eb74ac0$0$30757$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
In reply to#2336
On 06/11/2011 20:59, Ron Briscoe wrote:

> VRPC is an emulator. It emulates a RISC PC in various flavours on a Windows
> or Mac machine ;-).

If the machine looks and feels and behaves like a RISC OS machine, but 
it really isn't, then you're using an emulator! :-)


> What I meant in my normally strange manner was that I know that it works on
> an Iyonix running RO5.xx but do not know if it works on RPCEmu running
> RO5.xx. (I don't think that VRPC runs RO5.)

I don't see that it would make much difference - if the emulation is 
capable of getting RISC OS and some of the big apps going, this ought to 
work as well. If I have time in the next couple of days, I'll try it - 
unless somebody beats me to it.


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#2345

Fromcferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid
Date2011-11-07 10:04 +0000
Message-ID<3905592e52.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
In reply to#2341
In message <4eb74ac0$0$30757$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
          Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 06/11/2011 20:59, Ron Briscoe wrote:
> 
[snip]
> 
> > What I meant in my normally strange manner was that I know that it
> > works on an Iyonix running RO5.xx but do not know if it works on
> > RPCEmu running RO5.xx. (I don't think that VRPC runs RO5.)
> 

Has anyone tried running RO5 with VRPC?

It would be useful if both VRPC & RPCEmu could have the choice of
running different versions of the OS - like RedSquirrel.

Plus a 32bit & ARM7 only modes for testing purposes.


-- 
Colin Ferris Cornwall UK

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#2349

FromRick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2011-11-07 18:06 +0100
Message-ID<4eb81003$0$30783$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>
In reply to#2345
On 07/11/2011 11:04, cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:

> It would be useful if both VRPC&  RPCEmu could have the choice of
> running different versions of the OS - like RedSquirrel.

I don't think I got RO5 working on RedSquirrel.


Best wishes,

Rick.

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