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  Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-01 20:50 +0100
    Re: Monitor Screwing still Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> - 2011-08-01 22:16 +0100
      Re: Monitor Screwing still SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2011-08-01 23:02 +0100
      Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 06:54 +0100
        Re: Monitor Screwing still Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2011-08-02 14:02 +0100
        Re: Monitor Screwing still Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 14:28 +0100
          Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-04 18:47 +0100
            Re: Monitor Screwing still Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-08-04 23:26 +0100
              Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 02:12 +0200
                Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-05 08:48 +0100
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 22:31 +0200
                Re: Monitor Screwing still Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 11:13 +0100
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 15:31 +0100
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 15:21 +0000
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 18:50 +0100
                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-07 09:07 +0100
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-07 09:55 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 10:08 +0100
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-07 10:58 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2011-08-07 12:06 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Terry <telpubs@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-07 18:44 +0100
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 19:54 +0200
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 19:18 +0100
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Terry <telpubs@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-08 19:16 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 21:46 +0200
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 23:29 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 22:38 +0200
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-09 17:39 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 18:52 +0200
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-07 19:38 +0100
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 20:19 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-08-10 23:44 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-08-11 00:33 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 07:30 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:33 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:06 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:20 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:46 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:57 +0100
                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 11:12 +0100
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 20:25 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 23:04 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2011-08-08 08:35 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 10:41 +0200
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2011-08-08 11:14 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 21:50 +0200
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 13:40 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 17:17 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-09 17:46 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 18:54 +0200
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Terry <telpubs@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-08 18:33 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 22:02 +0200
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 21:20 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 15:27 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-09 17:48 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 01:12 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 21:25 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 21:37 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-08-08 22:08 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-09 17:54 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Steffen Huber <spam@huber-net.de> - 2011-08-07 20:11 +0200
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still David H Wild <dhwild@talktalk.net> - 2011-08-07 19:49 +0100
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-09 17:57 +0100
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 13:37 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-08-10 03:04 +0100
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 07:33 +0100
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 10:13 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 10:58 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-10 13:27 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 18:59 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2011-08-10 20:53 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 23:16 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-10 23:38 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 00:23 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 07:25 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 18:09 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 19:30 +0200
                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 19:40 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 09:01 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 09:15 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-11 10:22 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-08-11 19:56 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-11 20:56 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 23:21 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-12 22:49 +0200
                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2011-08-13 09:49 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:19 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-12 08:34 +0100
                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 01:41 +0100
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 07:48 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 09:20 +0100
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 10:02 +0100
                Re: Monitor Screwing still Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-08-06 00:49 +0100
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-07 09:14 +0100
                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 15:49 +0100
                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2011-08-08 10:51 +0100
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 22:20 +0200
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 22:20 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-08 22:57 +0100
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 10:18 +0100
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-08-09 11:00 +0100
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 22:53 +0200
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 22:46 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 23:59 +0200
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2011-08-10 23:58 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 00:38 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 08:05 +0100
                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:10 +0100
                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-11 10:27 +0100
                                            Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:49 +0100
                                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Grahame Parish <maillist.parish@millers-way.net> - 2011-08-11 11:02 +0100
                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-08-11 18:18 +0100
                                            Re: Monitor Screwing still charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 13:54 +0100
                                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-12 23:03 +0200
                                              Re: Monitor Screwing still JTM <usenetbin@free.fr> - 2011-08-13 09:54 +0100
                                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-13 06:38 +0100
                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-13 18:38 +0100
                                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-13 19:51 +0200
                                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-13 20:32 +0200
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-13 21:08 +0200
                                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-14 00:58 +0200
                                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-13 20:27 +0100
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-13 21:39 +0200
                                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2011-08-24 22:24 +0100
                                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-24 23:49 +0100
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-25 00:05 +0100
                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Ray Dawson <ray@magray.freeserve.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 10:24 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Michael Finlay <mjf3@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 20:42 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 07:59 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2011-08-24 22:26 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-26 11:42 +0100
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 12:06 +0100
                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 11:40 +0000
                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 13:44 +0100
                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 19:50 +0200
                                            Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 19:43 +0100
                                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 21:19 +0100
                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 22:45 +0200
                                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 22:42 +0100
                                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 23:56 +0100
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 08:43 +0100
                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-08-26 21:56 +0100
                                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 22:41 +0100
                                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-28 19:19 +0100
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-08-28 20:39 +0100
                                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-28 20:56 +0100
                                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-08-28 22:40 +0100
                                                            Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-28 22:56 +0100
                                                              Re: Monitor Screwing still David H Wild <dhwild@talktalk.net> - 2011-08-29 09:41 +0100
                                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 10:17 +0000
                                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 13:39 +0100
                                                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-29 14:57 +0100
                                                            Re: Monitor Screwing still "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 06:47 +0000
                                                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 09:33 +0100
                                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 09:09 +0000
                                                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 09:36 +0100
                                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 02:10 +0200
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-28 20:23 +0100
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 02:09 +0200
                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-08-26 23:08 +0100
                                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-27 09:33 +0100
                                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-08-27 15:57 +0100
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 16:06 +0000
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-27 17:22 +0100
                                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 18:17 +0100
                                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-27 21:01 +0100
                                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 18:24 +0100
                                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 20:33 +0200
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-08-27 20:37 +0100
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 20:44 +0100
                                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 22:23 +0100
                                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-28 13:47 +0200
                                                          Re: Monitor Screwing still charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-08-28 13:49 +0100
                                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-08-28 21:49 +0100
                                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-29 02:13 +0200
                                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-08-26 23:06 +0100
                                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 09:59 +0100
                                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-27 11:53 +0100
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-10 23:17 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-08-10 23:57 +0100
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-15 05:46 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2011-08-15 10:02 +0100
              Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 08:12 +0100
                Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 11:48 +0100
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 22:58 +0200
                    Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-06 00:54 +0200
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 10:34 +0200
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still (now OT) Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 10:09 +0100
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still (now OT) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 11:48 +0200
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still (now OT) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-07 11:01 +0100
                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-06 10:10 +0100
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-07 09:20 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 10:37 +0200
                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-06 14:57 +0100
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-07 10:47 +0200
                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> - 2011-08-17 11:46 +0100
                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-17 17:27 +0100
                          Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-17 17:55 +0100
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-17 19:08 +0200
                            Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-17 19:27 +0200
                              Re: Monitor Screwing still Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-18 14:35 +0100
                                Re: Monitor Screwing still Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-08-19 12:19 +0100
                                  Re: Monitor Screwing still Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-08-24 11:20 +0100
                                    Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-24 17:30 +0200
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-24 18:21 +0200
                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-24 19:03 +0200
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-08-24 18:58 +0100
                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-25 05:42 +0200
                                      Re: Monitor Screwing still Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-08-26 10:47 +0100
                                        Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-26 19:57 +0200
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 15:08 +0100
                Re: Monitor Screwing still Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2011-08-05 15:51 +0100
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still ChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net> - 2011-08-06 11:07 +0100
                Re: Monitor Screwing still Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-08-20 12:07 +0100
                  Re: Monitor Screwing still M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-08-20 12:43 +0100
          Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-05 01:50 +0200
    Re: Monitor Screwing still Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 23:15 +0200
      Re: Monitor Screwing still "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-08-02 23:34 +0200
      Re: Monitor Screwing still Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-08-02 22:48 +0100

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#1573

In article <4e4bf9f3$0$18783$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray
<URL:mailto:heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 17/08/2011 18:55, Russell Hafter News wrote:
> 
> > Would they be allowed to program in school these days?
> 
> Oh no, they might be <gasp> *hacking* </gasp>.

We had a (useless) work experience lad here last month, he installed
software and changed settings on a PC here without permission!

Technically a criminal offence I believe.

Chris Evans

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Telephone: 01903 523222             Fax: 01903 523679
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#1593

Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:

> We had a (useless) work experience lad here last month, he installed
> software and changed settings on a PC here without permission!
 
Why did you let him have admin privileges?

-- 
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#1657

In article <mpro.lq6a3n003pix800p0.vinceh@softrock.co.uk>, Vince M Hudd
<URL:mailto:vinceh@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
> Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > We had a (useless) work experience lad here last month, he installed
> > software and changed settings on a PC here without permission!
>  
> Why did you let him have admin privileges?

Good point, to consider for the future.

Chris Evans

-- 
CJE Micro's / 4D                'RISC OS Specialists'
Telephone: 01903 523222             Fax: 01903 523679
chris@cjemicros.co.uk     http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/
78 Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex,     BN11 2EN
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#1661

On 24/08/2011 12:20, Chris Evans wrote:

>> Why did you let him have admin privileges?
> Good point, to consider for the future.

One could then suggest that, as he was under your employ (even as a work 
experience), and with access to computers on admin privs, that it was 
not technically a criminal offence as you suggested, but rather an 
expected intervention as part of his job. ;-)

It is why when others were around, I kept my stuff password protected 
[*]. Not to hide stuff from the world, but to stop others messing with 
my settings. There are few things worse than having all your icons 
messed up. Well, maybe olives.


Best wishes,

Rick.

* - even RISC OS thanks to a little module dropped into the Simtec IDE
     card's flashrom, it hijacks the startup (i.e. as the module starts
     up) and asks for a password. If it is wrong, it calls reset to loop
     around again...

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#1664

In article <4e55190b$0$30794$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> There are few things worse than having all your icons 
> messed up. Well, maybe olives.

And how is Olive?

John

-- 
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Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
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#1666

On 24/08/2011 18:21, John Williams (News) wrote:

>> There are few things worse than having all your icons
>> messed up. Well, maybe olives.
> And how is Olive?

Green, slimy, and utterly disgusting.

I think she drives a tripod. [*]


Best wishes,

Rick.

* - HOOOOOOO-LAAAAAA!

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#1669

In article <4e55190b$0$30794$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> * - even RISC OS thanks to a little module dropped into the
>      Simtec IDE card's flashrom, it hijacks the startup (i.e.
>      as the module starts up) and asks for a password. If it
>      is wrong, it calls reset to loop around again...

Ooh! I would very much like to see that.  Any chance of you
publishing it?

Brian.

-- 
______________________________________________________________

Brian Carroll, Ripon, N Yorks, UK  briancarroll at f2s dot com
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#1673

On 24/08/2011 19:58, Brian Carroll wrote:

> Ooh! I would very much like to see that.  Any chance of you
> publishing it?

I don't know if I still have the sources. It's just a bog-standard C 
module that prompts for a (hard-coded) password, and if correct it kills 
itself. If wrong, it calls reset. It is a real rough'n'ready hack job to 
accomplish a specific little task.

The next time I'm on my RiscPC, I'll take a look-see for the code.


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#1686

In article <4e55190b$0$30794$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray
<heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 24/08/2011 12:20, Chris Evans wrote:

> >> Why did you let him have admin privileges?
> > Good point, to consider for the future.

> One could then suggest that, as he was under your employ (even as a
> work experience), and with access to computers on admin privs, that it
> was not technically a criminal offence as you suggested, but rather an
> expected intervention as part of his job. ;-)

Anyone with a bit of nouse can find out online how to get admin
priveledges on windows. Rather like 'Start' means 'Stop' you can go into
'Safe' mode to circumvent window's user passwords.

'Safe' mode? rofl  Safe for whom?

-- 
Tim Hill of timil.com . . .
* supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone
* has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/
* accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@

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#1702

On 26/08/2011 11:47, Tim Hill wrote:

> Anyone with a bit of nouse can find out online how to get admin
> priveledges on windows.

...true, but you could argue the legality of a person given limited (or 
no) access granting themselves admin.


> 'Safe' mode? rofl  Safe for whom?

Ah, yes, the good old "we'll not load some drivers but will load others 
and we'll screw up your icons for you too" mode. ;-)


I try to avoid Safe Mode. The last time I made any serious use of it was 
a Win98 machine when picking apart Sony's rootkit. Didn't have Internet 
in those days, so had to roll my own fix by yanking out the CD driver 
and reinstalling from the Windows CD-ROM. Bloody piece of crap software 
dropped rubbish all over the place, replaced the ATAPI driver, made it 
refuse to play most audio CDs *and* messed up accessing many CD-Rs (even 
data discs). Essentially, it killed my CD drive. And Safe Mode with 
prompting was the only way to tell it not to load those drivers, so I 
could yank them out...

Meh. And than all the icons were all everywhere they shouldn't be...


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#1370

In article <fa84f4fd51.barrygray@virginmedia.com>, Barry
Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

<snip>

> The pocket calculator has not made life any easier: since
> I retired from full-time teaching I have been doing
> private tutoring and it saddens (even angers) me...

When I was teaching, it didn't take me long to work out
that the only people who should be allowed to have
calculators are those who don't need one.

John

-- 
John
newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk
j dot mccartney atte blueyonder dot co dot uk

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#1359

In a mad moment - Dave Symes  mumbled :
[Big Snip]

> The bottom line is this... From the start it's been a con trick... Things
> simply are mostly measured by humans as x,y (and z) we don't do diagonals.

> What started as a con trick has now become even bigger (Perhaps in the
> context of this thread, should be smaller) ;-)

This has got me. I am looking for a new TV, widescreen, that has the 
same picture height as our existing CRT,4:3 display(nominaly 21"Diag)

Did all those squary-hyponeusy things to no conclusion so ended up
taking a tape measure to the shop displays.

Result - for thoses who care- For a 12" high display you need a 
widescreen tv of either 26" diag (about 1/2" short) or a 32"
(about 1+1/2" higher)

Action - Defer decision till after switchover and/or TV goes phut!

-- 
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|)ryn [vans            mail to - BrynEvans@bryork.freeuk.com

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#1368

In message <csam63bc0afe51.Bryn@yo.rk>
          Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> wrote:

> For a 12" high display you need a
> widescreen tv of either 26" diag (about 1/2" short) or a 32"
> (about 1+1/2" higher)

I have been thinking of setting up a business specifically to service 
the Geminus market. My plan is to remove a pair of screens from their 
existing frames and fit them into a single wooden frame.

So, as you will imagine, I have been following this thread with 
enthusiasm; not to say despair!

Before this thread, I had thought my main problem was the colour of 
the wood - but I have now come to the conclusion that, not only 
shrinkage, but the screen measurement of the finished article might 
become an issue.

However, Aycee - pronounced "A.C." - at Trading Standards, believes 
that, in the light of some of the issues raised in this thread, if I 
advertise using 'cubits' I should be fine.

Thus heartened I was all ready to stsrt looking for my saw, when I 
discovered, by way of the wife's tape measure (which I 'borrowed' from 
her sewing box) that the length of nails is far from predictable!

I despair.

It would seem that our world is far from perfect. Would that we were 
in the time of Shakespeare, when my nails would have been made to 
order by the smith up the street; whose concern for 'wastage' would 
not be influenced by lack of a 'CNC' or 'Standard size' materials, in 
a world where there was no need to translate from one ideogram into 
another.

-- 
BW Chris F. [British Iyonix Computer, operating RISC OS 5.16]
http://www.ancientscripts.com/chinese.html
"Return unto thy anvil, Smith; for heads that wax and wane are as 
trustworthy as York." Albert Shakespeare.

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#1601

And in conclusion...

I was in the loft earlier, moving stuff around when I encountered the box
for the supposed 22" Monitor... Surprise, surprise, in small letters on
the bottom corner of the box is says 21.5 inches, so I looked again at my
Sales Invoice and it most positively say 22" so I popped along to the site
from which I purchased... and there it is presented as a 22" monitor.

So my apologies for slagging off Acer, when in fact it was Novatech doing
the screwing.

Shall I write and ask for my half an inches worth of money back?  ;-)

Well back in the days... GM,  I would have, and been brusque about it...
But post GM I'm way to cool to even bother sending them a note about false
advertising. :-)

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid

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#1602

In article <5205afd3c7dave@triffid.co.uk>,
   Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> And in conclusion...

> I was in the loft earlier, moving stuff around when I encountered
> the box for the supposed 22" Monitor... Surprise, surprise, in
> small letters on the bottom corner of the box is says 21.5 inches,
> so I looked again at my Sales Invoice and it most positively say
> 22" so I popped along to the site from which I purchased... and
> there it is presented as a 22" monitor.

> So my apologies for slagging off Acer, when in fact it was Novatech
> doing the screwing.

> Shall I write and ask for my half an inches worth of money back? 
> ;-)

Remember to add on to the compensation compound interest for all those
years that you've missed crucial items. And for all the energy you've
wasted in having to scroll; maybe even for Repetive Strain Injury from
excessive use of the mouse. Best of British luck!

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding   riscos@mdharding.org.uk

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#1344

On 04/08/2011 15:28, Alan Dawes wrote:

>> 21.5 and a smidgen inches.
> So, to the nearest in, it is 23in as stated by the manufacturer

21.5 <> 23 +/- 0.5

:-P


Best wishes,

Rick.

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#1295

On 01/08/2011 21:50, Dave Symes wrote:

> Interestingly, I've only just measured this 22 inch screen... Guess what?
> It's only just making 21.5 inches or 54.5 cm... Screwed again!

I guess it depends on whether the manufacturer is measuring the glass 
front of the display, or the amount *actually* visible within the 
constraints of the bezel. Logic would say it's the visible area, but 
then logic would say that 1GB = 1024MB in harddisc sizes... <g,d&r>


If you think that is being screwed, I have on my RiscPC mom's old IBM 
Aptiva monitor. It's a 14" jobbie from the early '90s. When used on a 
proper VGA display, it has maybe inch to inch-and-a-half black borders 
around the image. No amount of fiddling with the controls will make the 
picture larger. Faffing with MDFs can claim a centimetre, but there is 
*no* way to fill the display. It just won't do it. [*] No obvious 
h-size/v-size pots inside either.
So there's a 14" monitor with a screen that I haven't bothered to 
measure (to see if it really is 14") that loses 2-3 inches in pointless 
black borders.
And you think you got screwed over half an inch. :-P


Best wishes,

Rick.

* - Its concept of contrast is highly crap too, for good whites, the
     blacks are a light and washed out shade of grey, it's an altogether
     exceedingly naff monitor.

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#1297

In article <4e3868f1$0$18782$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>,
   Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> And you think you got screwed over half an inch. :-P

Size is said to not be everything!

John

-- 
John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses!
Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject!
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#1302

In article
<4e3868f1$0$18782$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick
Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> If you think that is being screwed, I have on my RiscPC
> mom's old IBM Aptiva monitor. It's a 14" jobbie from the
> early '90s.

Wow. I do not recall even Billy Conolly's worst jokes
involving 14" jobbies.
;-)

-- 
Russell
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