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| Started by | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2012-02-27 20:58 +0000 |
| Last post | 2012-03-01 12:46 +0000 |
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Printer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-27 20:58 +0000
Re: Printer John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-02-27 21:33 +0000
Re: Printer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-27 21:55 +0000
Re: Printer Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-02-27 22:25 +0000
Re: Printer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 06:18 +0000
Re: Printer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 20:25 +0000
Re: Printer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-06 22:45 +0000
Re: Printer Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-07 00:08 +0100
Re: Printer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 06:04 +0000
Re: Printer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-07 09:56 +0000
Re: Printer Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-07 13:11 +0100
Re: Printer Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-07 12:51 +0000
Re: Printer Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-07 15:48 +0100
Re: Printer M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-03-07 15:08 +0000
Re: Printer Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-07 18:26 +0100
Re: Printer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 17:39 +0000
Re: Printer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 23:59 +0100
Re: Printer John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-02-27 22:35 +0000
Re: Printer John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> - 2012-02-27 22:43 +0000
Re: Printer Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-27 22:45 +0000
Re: Printer "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 13:38 +0000
Re: Printer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 04:32 +0100
Re: Printer Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-02-28 21:39 +0000
Re: Printer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 23:01 +0000
Re: Printer patric <patric@invalid.com> - 2012-02-29 03:14 +0100
Re: Printer "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-02-29 10:20 +0000
Re: Printer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-29 11:15 +0000
Re: Printer probus <probus@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-02-29 13:01 +0000
Re: Printer John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 10:13 +0000
Re: Printer Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-01 01:51 +0100
Re: Printer Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-02 11:53 +0000
Re: Printer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-02-29 11:36 +0000
Re: Printer patric <patric@invalid.com> - 2012-02-29 13:05 +0100
Re: Printer Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-02-29 22:31 +0000
Re: Printer Patric@invalid.com - 2012-03-01 01:54 +0100
Re: Printer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 08:04 +0000
Re: Printer Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-01 02:00 +0100
Re: Printer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 04:41 +0100
Re: Printer Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> - 2012-03-01 07:32 +0000
Re: Printer Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-03-01 16:42 +0000
Re: Printer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 23:44 +0100
Re: Printer Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-29 10:40 +0000
Re: Printer Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-02-29 11:29 +0000
Re: Printer patric <patric@invalid.com> - 2012-02-29 13:35 +0100
Re: Printer Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-02-29 12:56 +0000
Re: Printer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-02-29 14:06 +0000
Re: Printer Grahame Parish <maillist.parish@millers-way.net> - 2012-02-29 14:06 +0000
Re: Printer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 04:58 +0100
Re: Printer Patric@invalid.com - 2012-03-01 12:52 +0100
Re: Printer Mark Beerling <notvalid@online.de> - 2012-02-29 18:33 +0100
Re: Printer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-27 21:39 +0000
Re: Printer Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Printer Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 11:47 +0000
Re: Printer Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 12:56 +0000
Re: Printer Grahame Parish <maillist.parish@millers-way.net> - 2012-02-28 13:10 +0000
Printer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 19:49 +0000
Re: Printer Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 20:12 +0000
Re: Printer Grahame Parish <spamtrap@millers-way.net> - 2012-02-28 21:15 +0000
Re: Printer Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 18:45 +0000
Re: Printer Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-27 22:16 +0000
Re: Printer Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-27 23:00 +0000
Re: Printer Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-28 06:06 +0000
Re: Printer Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 04:30 +0100
Re: Printer M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-02-28 10:20 +0000
Re: Printer Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-02-28 20:59 +0000
Re: Printer "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+15400@Torrens.org.uk> - 2012-03-01 08:29 +0000
Re: Printer "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 09:35 +0000
Re: Printer "Barry Allen (news)" <evanallen@onetel.net.uk.invalid> - 2012-03-01 10:31 +0000
Re: Printer "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 12:46 +0000
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-27 20:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Printer |
| Message-ID | <52684284e2dave@triffid.co.uk> |
We have an ancient (15 years old) HP LaserJet 5P (Parallel) which is connected via a switch box to two SARPC computers (and a MS-Win) it is methinks last legging it. So... What to get as a replacement. 1) It must be a HP Mono Laser printer? We can research that for ourselves, but any suggestions would be appreciated. We quite like the HP 2055D 2) How to connect it to the SARPCs? 3) I assume the bog standard RO Printers 1.91a doesn't do USB? 4) I want my mummy... Dave -- Dave Triffid
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| From | John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-27 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.m02mk900079eq04lo.lists@thesandfords.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #3763 |
Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote: > 1) It must be a HP Mono Laser printer? > > We can research that for ourselves, but any suggestions would be > appreciated. > > We quite like the HP 2055D > > 2) How to connect it to the SARPCs? > > 3) I assume the bog standard RO Printers 1.91a doesn't do USB? > > 4) I want my mummy... > > Dave > Get a network printer, Its what I use, or a usb/network printer server, no direct connection needed all your machines can print to it. John -- John Sandford home
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-27 21:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <526847c9acdave@triffid.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3764 |
In article <mpro.m02mk900079eq04lo.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>, John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote: > Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote: > > 1) It must be a HP Mono Laser printer? > > > > We can research that for ourselves, but any suggestions would be > > appreciated. > > > > We quite like the HP 2055D > > > > 2) How to connect it to the SARPCs? > > > > 3) I assume the bog standard RO Printers 1.91a doesn't do USB? > > > > 4) I want my mummy... > > > > Dave > > > Get a network printer, Its what I use, or a usb/network printer server, > no direct connection needed all your machines can print to it. > John My later posting notes that's the way I'm leaning, and that is something I did some years ago with the PCs. (Since discontinued for reasons...) If I go this route there's no problem with the Win PCs, but what about the RO machines... I know they'll be able to see the printer via UniPrint/Server and the printers ip address, but will the bog standard RO printers still work. Or am I going to have to do something else? Dave -- Dave Triffid
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| From | Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
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| Date | 2012-02-27 22:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <32864a6852.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> |
| In reply to | #3766 |
In message <526847c9acdave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <mpro.m02mk900079eq04lo.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>,
> John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Get a network printer, Its what I use, or a usb/network printer server,
> > no direct connection needed all your machines can print to it.
>
> > John
>
> My later posting notes that's the way I'm leaning, and that is something I
> did some years ago with the PCs. (Since discontinued for reasons...)
>
> If I go this route there's no problem with the Win PCs, but what about the
> RO machines... I know they'll be able to see the printer via
> UniPrint/Server and the printers ip address, but will the bog standard RO
> printers still work.
>
> Or am I going to have to do something else?
It's pretty much a certainty that a network printer, or a networked
printer (i.e. a printer that doesn't have a built in network port,
but is connected to the network via a print server box) will be
accessible via the JetDirect protocol. RISC OS has a JetDirect
module available from http://www.riscos.org/jetdirect/
It's what I'm using on the Iyonix. In
Printers->Printer Control->Connection, use the "File" connection
with "JetDirectFS:<server>" where you replace <server> with either
the printer/print server's name (if it's in the Risc PC's Hosts
file) or its IP address.
Simples.
Dave
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-28 06:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <526875d068dave@triffid.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3768 |
In article <32864a6852.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > In message <526847c9acdave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote: [Snippy] > > > > Or am I going to have to do something else? > It's pretty much a certainty that a network printer, or a networked > printer (i.e. a printer that doesn't have a built in network port, > but is connected to the network via a print server box) will be > accessible via the JetDirect protocol. RISC OS has a JetDirect > module available from http://www.riscos.org/jetdirect/ > It's what I'm using on the Iyonix. In > Printers->Printer Control->Connection, use the "File" connection > with "JetDirectFS:<server>" where you replace <server> with either > the printer/print server's name (if it's in the Risc PC's Hosts > file) or its IP address. > Simples. > Dave Thank for that info Dave, most useful. Cheers Dave -- Dave Triffid
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| From | Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-28 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5268c36202bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3768 |
In article <32864a6852.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: [ ... ] > much a certainty that a network printer, or a networked > printer (i.e. a printer that doesn't have a built in network > port, but is connected to the network via a print server box) > will be accessible via the JetDirect protocol. RISC OS has a > JetDirect module available from > http://www.riscos.org/jetdirect/ > It's what I'm using on the Iyonix. ... And it's what I use on my RiscPC. If you stick to HP products you will be able to find a suitable printer driver from the standard Acorn-provided stuff for PCL5 or 6. I also recommend the PostScript3 driver and PrintPDF for printing high quality PDFs via UniServer and and ,eg, Adobe Reader on one of your PCs. I can also connect via the USB component of UNIpod ( I have sent you a copy of an email I wrote to someone else about this). This can remain set u as a standby incase of network failure. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK ______________________________________________________________
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-03-06 22:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <526c6b11a8see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #3768 |
In article <32864a6852.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > It's pretty much a certainty that a network printer, or a > networked printer (i.e. a printer that doesn't have a > built in network port, but is connected to the network > via a print server box) will be accessible via the > JetDirect protocol. RISC OS has a JetDirect module > available from http://www.riscos.org/jetdirect/ Has something happened to this? I have downloaded this a couple of times and always get an "Invalid Zipfile header" error. Or am I doing something wrong? -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 00:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <0e296d6c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com> |
| In reply to | #4005 |
In message <526c6b11a8see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
wrote:
> In article <32864a6852.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave
> Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>> It's pretty much a certainty that a network printer, or a
>> networked printer (i.e. a printer that doesn't have a
>> built in network port, but is connected to the network
>> via a print server box) will be accessible via the
>> JetDirect protocol. RISC OS has a JetDirect module
>> available from http://www.riscos.org/jetdirect/
> Has something happened to this?
> I have downloaded this a couple of times and always get an
> "Invalid Zipfile header" error.
Working fine here (both in SparkFS 1.41 and InfoZip 3.05), except that
there are no filetypes. Check the length of the download: 48919 bytes.
> Or am I doing something wrong?
Maybe your browser corrupts it, or maybe there is a corrupted copy in
a proxy somewhere.
--
Martin
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 06:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <526c933cfedave@triffid.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4006 |
In article <0e296d6c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote: > In message <526c6b11a8see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > wrote: > > In article <32864a6852.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave > > Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > >> It's pretty much a certainty that a network printer, or a > >> networked printer (i.e. a printer that doesn't have a > >> built in network port, but is connected to the network > >> via a print server box) will be accessible via the > >> JetDirect protocol. RISC OS has a JetDirect module > >> available from http://www.riscos.org/jetdirect/ > > Has something happened to this? > > I have downloaded this a couple of times and always get an > > "Invalid Zipfile header" error. > Working fine here (both in SparkFS 1.41 and InfoZip 3.05), except that > there are no filetypes. Check the length of the download: 48919 bytes. Yes, that caught me out last week... Downloaded then as instructed put the Dir., JetDirect into PreDesk... Re-booted and whoops! As you say Martin, no filetypes, corrected that and all was okay. [Snippy] Dave -- Dave Triffid
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 09:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <526ca87321see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #4006 |
In article <0e296d6c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote: > In message <526c6b11a8see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > Russell Hafter News > <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > > In article <32864a6852.davehigton@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave > > Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > >> It's pretty much a certainty that a network printer, > >> or a networked printer (i.e. a printer that doesn't > >> have a built in network port, but is connected to the > >> network via a print server box) will be accessible via > >> the JetDirect protocol. RISC OS has a JetDirect > >> module available from http://www.riscos.org/jetdirect/ > > Has something happened to this? > > I have downloaded this a couple of times and always get > > an "Invalid Zipfile header" error. > Working fine here (both in SparkFS 1.41 and InfoZip > 3.05), except that there are no filetypes. Check the > length of the download: 48919 bytes. InfoZip worked fine. For some reason, Sparkplug did not. Strange - I frequently have all sorts of problems with Infozip (probably me, not the software) while Sparkplug has always 'just worked'. Thanks Martin, for the suggestion. Thanks too, to Steve Fryatt for Locate, which found where I had hidden Infozip. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 13:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <91ddb46c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com> |
| In reply to | #4012 |
In message <526ca87321see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
wrote:
>>> I have downloaded this a couple of times and always get
>>> an "Invalid Zipfile header" error.
>> Working fine here (both in SparkFS 1.41 and InfoZip
>> 3.05), except that there are no filetypes. Check the
>> length of the download: 48919 bytes.
> InfoZip worked fine. For some reason, Sparkplug did not.
> Strange - I frequently have all sorts of problems with
> Infozip (probably me, not the software) while Sparkplug has
> always 'just worked'.
There are various known problems with previous versions of SparkPlug.
Please check whether you have at least SparkPlug 2.26. Not sure how
you get along without SparkFS, but even without it, I would use the
free read-only SparkFS rather than SparkPlug any day, available from:
http://www.davidpilling.net/spark.html
--
Martin
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 12:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <526cb8777csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #4021 |
In article <91ddb46c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote: > In message <526ca87321see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > Russell Hafter News > <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > >>> I have downloaded this a couple of times and always > >>> get an "Invalid Zipfile header" error. > >> Working fine here (both in SparkFS 1.41 and InfoZip > >> 3.05), except that there are no filetypes. Check the > >> length of the download: 48919 bytes. > > InfoZip worked fine. For some reason, Sparkplug did > > not. Strange - I frequently have all sorts of problems > > with Infozip (probably me, not the software) while > > Sparkplug has always 'just worked'. > There are various known problems with previous versions > of SparkPlug. Please check whether you have at least > SparkPlug 2.26. I have ver. 2.29, which has never given me any problems. > Not sure how you get along without SparkFS, but even > without it, I would use the free read-only SparkFS rather > than SparkPlug any day, available from: > http://www.davidpilling.net/spark.html This was news to me. I have downloaded free ver 1.42 and will see how it works. All I really need it for is opening downloaded archives, nothing else. As for paid for SparkFS, I am not sure what the advantages might be, beyond being able to create archives with it. Since I do that about once every three years (with Infozip) I am not sure that that is worth the £25 it costs! What else would I get for that £25 compared with the paid version of Spark at £6 (which I also do not have)? -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 15:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5e3fc36c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com> |
| In reply to | #4023 |
In message <526cb8777csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
wrote:
> In article <91ddb46c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin
> Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:
>> Not sure how you get along without SparkFS, but even
>> without it, I would use the free read-only SparkFS rather
>> than SparkPlug any day, available from:
>> http://www.davidpilling.net/spark.html
> This was news to me. I have downloaded free ver 1.42 and
> will see how it works. All I really need it for is opening
> downloaded archives, nothing else.
In that case, the read-only version will serve you well, in fact it is
even better because it prevents you from accidentally changing
archives.
> As for paid for SparkFS, I am not sure what the advantages
> might be, beyond being able to create archives with it.
> Since I do that about once every three years (with Infozip)
> I am not sure that that is worth the £25 it costs!
Not really. If you do not create archives more often, there is little
point in the full version.
> What else would I get for that £25 compared with the paid
> version of Spark at £6 (which I also do not have)?
Spark is a thing of the past. It is a traditional packer/unpacker that
requires you to drag files and directories out of the archive in order
to use them. SparkFS is a filing system, so you can access the files
in an archive like files in an ordinary directory on your hard disc,
which is much more convenient.
--
Martin
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| From | M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 15:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <526cc50f4eriscos@mdharding.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #4033 |
In article <5e3fc36c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote: > In message <526cb8777csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > wrote: > > What else would I get for that £25 compared with the paid version > > of Spark at £6 (which I also do not have)? > Spark is a thing of the past. It is a traditional packer/unpacker > that requires you to drag files and directories out of the archive > in order to use them. SparkFS is a filing system, so you can > access the files in an archive like files in an ordinary directory > on your hard disc, which is much more convenient. I hadn't realised that. Is SparkFS as dangerous to use, then, as the !CFS I once used when HD size was in Megabytes? Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk
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| From | Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 18:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d2b8d16c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com> |
| In reply to | #4035 |
In message <526cc50f4eriscos@mdharding.org.uk>
M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <5e3fc36c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>,
> Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:
>> In message <526cb8777csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
>> Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> What else would I get for that £25 compared with the paid version
>>> of Spark at £6 (which I also do not have)?
>> Spark is a thing of the past. It is a traditional packer/unpacker
>> that requires you to drag files and directories out of the archive
>> in order to use them. SparkFS is a filing system, so you can
>> access the files in an archive like files in an ordinary directory
>> on your hard disc, which is much more convenient.
> I hadn't realised that. Is SparkFS as dangerous to use, then, as the
> !CFS I once used when HD size was in Megabytes?
You cannot compare these two. They have opposite approaches. !CFS
operated on the files on your hard disc using an alternative filing
system view, with all sorts of disadvantages and confusions. That has
nothing to do with the way SparkFS works. SparkFS uses a RISC OS
feature that did not exist when !CFS was written (a so-called image
filing system). SparkFS operates inside archive files, e.g., Zip
files. It makes a Zip archive file look like an ordinary directory to
you and to programs, so things just work normally, even though inside
the ZIP file, everything is compressed. This is totally transparent.
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Martin
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| From | Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 17:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <58d7d26c52.chris@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4035 |
In message <526cc50f4eriscos@mdharding.org.uk>
M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <5e3fc36c52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>,
> Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:
>> In message <526cb8777csee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
>> Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> What else would I get for that £25 compared with the paid version
>>> of Spark at £6 (which I also do not have)?
>> Spark is a thing of the past. It is a traditional packer/unpacker
>> that requires you to drag files and directories out of the archive
>> in order to use them. SparkFS is a filing system, so you can
>> access the files in an archive like files in an ordinary directory
>> on your hard disc, which is much more convenient.
> I hadn't realised that. Is SparkFS as dangerous to use, then, as the
> !CFS I once used when HD size was in Megabytes?
No to the first part of your question I would have said and Hard
drives are still in Megabytes!
--
Chris Hughes
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-03-07 23:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <almarsoft.2767677421644022708@news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #4035 |
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:08:41 +0000 (GMT), M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> wrote: > Is SparkFS as dangerous to use, then, Everything is dangerous if used incorrectly... > as the !CFS I once used when HD size was in Megabytes? You got that to work? I didn't like my harddisc, and by the time I got around to trying to find out what the problem was, I had realised that many applications were already compressed so it wouldn't provide much benefit in the long run... SparkFS is much nicer to use as it looks and feels like a disc. It opens a regular filer window, you can do all the normal stuff without learning a new interface. I guess you could badly screw up something important, but that said RISC OS has no "undelete" so you could as easily delete an important file on your harddisc. I used to use SparkFS a lot before I had internet as it made a TAR file with decent permissions (WinZip choses rw------- instead of rw-r--r-- so anything uploaded to a server will result in an error as it doesn't have world read privileges) and the whole process was a draggy-droppy deal. For some reason, my SMB service on my RiscPC crawls. It can max out the 10mbit bandwidth when transferring a file, however opening a full directory can take in the order of 30 seconds. I usually find data transfer to be quicker if I zip up everything into one file, then drop it on the root of a small partition. So, yeah, it's useful... Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-27 22:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.m02pee002e2bx04lo.lists@thesandfords.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #3766 |
Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote: > In article <mpro.m02mk900079eq04lo.lists@thesandfords.me.uk>, > John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote: > > > Get a network printer, Its what I use, or a usb/network printer server, > > no direct connection needed all your machines can print to it. > > > John > > My later posting notes that's the way I'm leaning, and that is something I > did some years ago with the PCs. (Since discontinued for reasons...) > > If I go this route there's no problem with the Win PCs, but what about the > RO machines... I know they'll be able to see the printer via > UniPrint/Server and the printers ip address, but will the bog standard RO > printers still work. > > Or am I going to have to do something else? > > Dave > Never had a laser printer but I recall that most seem to use the same language and there has been a driver for lasers for years. John -- John Sandford home
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| From | John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-27 22:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.m02psx002p9x404lo.lists@thesandfords.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #3769 |
John Sandford <lists@thesandfords.me.uk> wrote: > > Or am I going to have to do something else? > > > > Dave > > > Never had a laser printer but I recall that most seem to use the same > language and there has been a driver for lasers for years. > > John Puts brain back in gear, Yes you will need to use something else, a network driver, Ian Hamilton does one, very easy to use, or there's the one Dave has just suggested. John -- John Sandford home
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| From | Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-02-27 22:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52684c5ddfSpambin@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3766 |
In article <526847c9acdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote: > If I go this route there's no problem with the Win PCs, but what about the > RO machines... I know they'll be able to see the printer via > UniPrint/Server and the printers ip address, but will the bog standard RO > printers still work. Well, I have the Dell on the network and a Canon S4500 on the parallel port. I have two drivers for the Canon, the original supplied by Spacetech and the Gutenprint one. All sit quite happily on the Icon bar, alongside the PS2 driver required to generate PDF's from Techwriter, and I choose which ever on I want to use. I don't need Uniprint because the drivers supplied by CJE for the Dell drive the printer directly. -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
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