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Re: Configure country

From Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject Re: Configure country
Date 2025-09-12 15:26 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <b72f3b5b5c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> (permalink)
References <6bb256595c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> <42f78f595c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> <2c10185b5c.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>

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On 12 Sep 2025 as I do recall,
          Jean-Michel  wrote:

> In message <42f78f595c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
>           Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On 8 Sep 2025 as I do recall,
> >           Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> 
> >> Every time I restart the computer I have to do a *Configure country UK
> >> in order to move the double-quotes back into the 2 key as depicted on
> >> the keycaps.   How do I get the configuration to save?
> >> 
> > I'm guessing that the issue is *probably* that I have been using
> > !KeyMap (originally in a failed attempt to type Unicode into NetSurf - I
> > couldn't find a layout that actually produced the right characters in an
> > actual Web page), which if I remember correctly (I can't find where I
> > got this info from) toggles in Cyrillic mode between Cyrillic keyboard
> > layout and US English layout by pressing left Shift/Alt....
> 
> Hi Harriet,
> Unicode and internationalization are two very interesting subjects ...
> 
> The font that displays Cyrillic characters is "unicode", they are only 
> displayed in !Chars or !XChars.
> 
> I don't know how to have them displayed by !NetSurf, it's a good question.
> 
I do have them displayed by NetSurf, but I can't remember how I set
that up.  You need the font 'Cyberbit', which is *huge*.  With that
installed, I can cut and paste Cyrillic text from within NetSurf itself,
but I can't usefully enter it from the keyboard, e.g. for a search in
https://www.multitran.com/dictionary/russian-english/

I tried setting up Paul Sprangers' !Keymap and !Dict, but never got Web
search working with any of the character maps provided, although I did
at some point in that process acquire a Bukinist.KO18 and Bukinist.1251
font which can be used along with !Keymap to type using a standard
Russian keyboard layout in RISC OS applications.  (My Russian
touch-typing is incredibly laborious, but just about usable;  attempting
to transcribe Unicode Cyrillic text viewed on the Web into editable form
in a document, as opposed to being able to cut and paste it from the
browser window, is so impractical that it is actually much faster to
copy it out by hand and work in manuscript.)


I've just run !Chars, and it is showing Cyrillic characters in all the
positions above ASCII 128;  however *Keyboard and *Country are already
reporting "UK" when I check, and clicking on the Cyrillic characters
displayed in the !Chars window doesn't actually type the letters
currently shown in the window but the 'normal' Latin-1 accented
characters at those positions instead.  So I have thoroughly confused my
configuration somehow.

If I reboot, the double-quote will probably have moved back onto the @
key....

-- 
Harriet Bazley                     ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

We are not punished for our sins, but by them.

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Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-09-08 23:14 +0100
  Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-09-09 09:39 +0100
    Re: Configure country Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> - 2025-09-12 10:02 +0200
      Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-09-12 13:57 +0200
      Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-09-12 15:26 +0100
        Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-09-29 17:13 +0100
          Re: Configure country Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> - 2025-09-30 11:36 +0200
            Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-09-30 19:18 +0100
              Re: Configure country Paul Stewart <phorefaux@gmail.com> - 2025-09-30 20:38 +0100
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-09-30 22:40 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Stewart <paulstewart@phawfaux.co.uk> - 2025-10-03 22:26 +0100
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 01:02 +0100
              Re: Configure country J Peachey <john@jpeachey.co.uk> - 2025-09-30 20:00 +0000
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-09-30 22:42 +0100
                Re: Configure country Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> - 2025-10-01 10:26 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 01:20 +0100
                Re: Configure country Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> - 2025-10-04 10:16 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 13:41 +0100
                Re: Configure country Sniffer <sniffer@dewberryfields.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 14:50 +0100
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 18:08 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-04 19:51 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 20:27 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-04 12:17 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 13:19 +0100
                Re: Configure country Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 13:18 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-04 14:27 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 18:04 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-04 19:47 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 20:23 +0100
                Re: Configure country druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2025-10-04 20:40 +0100
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 18:50 +0100
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 18:47 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-04 19:59 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 20:35 +0100
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-04 21:12 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-04 23:33 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-05 10:30 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-05 12:40 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-05 12:46 +0100
                Re: Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-05 17:54 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-05 13:27 +0100
                Configure country Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-10-04 23:30 +0200
                Re: Configure country Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-10-05 10:19 +0100

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