Re: The TechWriter miracle

From	Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject	Re: The TechWriter miracle
Date	2012-08-04 09:08 +0100
Organization	Russell Hafter Holidays
Message-ID	<52b9ddfc38see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> (permalink)
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<mpro.m878xu06lm3j4022e.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve
Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 3 Aug, Russell Hafter News wrote in message
>     <52b9a37922see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>:

> > In article
> > <mpro.m871p002j4tkg022e.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve
> > Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> > > UKey (along with it's DeepKeys stunt-double) is used
> > > by a lot of applications because it makes
> > > understanding keyboard input much easier than it is
> > > by default. Avoiding it is likely to cause quirky
> > > behaviour in other places too.

> > Sorry Steve, you have *completely* lost me there!

> > 1. AFAIK, UKey is something supplied with EW. I have
> > never heard of it anywhere else.

> It's also supplied with and used by other applications.
> DeepKeys is an (incompatible) alternative, which a
> different set of apps use.

Which applications?

I am not aware of any here.

> > 2. Understanding keyboard input? Unfortunately I have
> > no idea what you refer to here.

> The key codes that applications receive from the Wimp are
> often ambiguous. UKey and DeepKeys extend the range of
> codes and make it possible to do stuff like tell Ctrl-C
> and Shift-Ctrl-C apart.

I cannot imagine a scenario where I would have to use
Shift-Ctrl-C without any alternative. I am not aware of any
application that I have that requires it.

Personally, I prefer to use the mouse for actions rather
than keyboard short cuts, and I really only know and use the
most obvious ones, plus the ATL-; and ALT-[ etc for accented
characters

> > 3. How does not loading something supplied as part of
> > EW cause problems elsewhere?

> Because unless you edit every UKey client's !Run file, it
> will probably be loaded anyway.

It is only EW that could load it, and it does not

> And if you do stop it, other apps will also be tripped up
> by not getting the key codes that they expect.

Again, which other apps?

> You're effectively meddling with a low-level module,
> which is never a good idea.

But it is not part of the machine OS. EW ran without it for
years, and continues to do so.

It is supplied with EW and remains within the EW folder.

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