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Re: New Iris

Subject Re: New Iris
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.apps
From Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk>
Date 2025-04-04 07:51 +0100
Message-ID <3d0628085c.Matthew@sinenomine.co.uk> (permalink)
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In message <c1dde7075c.chris@mytardis>
 on 3 Apr 2025 Chris Hughes  wrote:

> Possibly. Looking at the URL's I can see what is causing the initial
> issue. its the links to the sub-sections the bit where the URL has a # in
> it.

> Three ways I have found round it.

> 1) Just right click the link opens it correctly in a new tab.
> or
> 2) when you get the page of HTML either click on F5 key (fresh page) or
> click on the refresh page icon in the toolbar at the top of the window
> (it's the arrows in a circle).

> The pages then renders correctly.

> Note: the same happens with the Impact HTML based help pages as well -
> just tested and the same workarounds work.

When a web browser loads a file from disc there is a fundamental 
difference from loading it from the internet, because the file does not 
provide the browser with the HTTP header response.  That response includes 
a Content-Type line which tells the browser that the content is text/html 
(or equally is a bitmap image, video, or audio file of various types).

When the browser loads from disc, it needs another method of recognising 
the type.  On RISC OS, this should be via the filetype, but I would also 
expect a browser to fall back on looking at the end of the file name in 
case there is an extension like "/html" or "/htm" (using RISC OS 
conventions here).

I imagine this could break if the browser forgets to remove the part from 
the # onwards in the URL.  But it's quite peculiar, because it has to 
remove those parts to find the right file in the first place.

I looked at the !FTPc manual which Chris Newman mentioned further down the 
thread.  Chris did not make clear which page of the manual failed: I found 
an internal link with a hash, but that might not have been the problem. 
One feature of the !FTPc manual is that the pages do not have any /html or 
/htm extensions.  It could be that none of the links work, even when there 
is no hash, because of some dodginess in Iris about how it makes up for 
the lack of Content-Type.

-- 
Matthew Phillips
Sine Nomine Software
Durham

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New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-03-31 11:12 +0100
  Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 11:58 +0100
    Re: New Iris Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-03-31 13:16 +0100
      Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 13:31 +0100
  Re: New Iris Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 16:07 +0100
    Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-03-31 18:14 +0100
      Re: New Iris Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2025-03-31 18:28 +0100
        Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 19:57 +0100
          Re: New Iris Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 20:44 +0100
      Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 19:51 +0100
        Re: New Iris Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2025-04-01 11:06 +0100
          Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-04-01 11:39 +0100
        Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-01 16:21 +0100
          Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-01 17:53 +0100
            Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-02 11:46 +0100
              Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-03 18:08 +0100
                Re: New Iris Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2025-04-03 18:25 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-03 19:30 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-04-03 20:11 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-03 20:53 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-03 22:18 +0100
                Re: New Iris Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2025-04-03 22:05 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-03 22:28 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-04-03 22:54 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-04 14:19 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-04-04 18:34 +0100
                Re: New Iris Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-04-04 07:51 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-16 12:16 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2025-04-16 13:08 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-16 15:26 +0100
                Re: New Iris Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2025-04-16 22:16 +0100
                Re: New Iris Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-04-04 07:40 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-04 14:17 +0100
              Re: New Iris Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-04-11 17:03 +0100
                Re: New Iris Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-04-11 17:08 +0100
                Re: New Iris Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-04-11 18:22 +0100
                Re: New Iris Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> - 2025-04-11 18:22 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-11 19:51 +0100
                Re: New Iris Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> - 2025-04-11 20:21 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-11 22:37 +0100
                Re: New Iris Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2025-04-11 22:43 +0100

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