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Re: I could use a hand locating hardware bits and pieces and/or technical documentation for repair.

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Date 2015-12-23 14:25 -0800
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Subject Re: I could use a hand locating hardware bits and pieces and/or technical documentation for repair.
From Chris Smith <protheus@byteorder.net>

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On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 1:49:23 PM UTC-6, Chris Smith wrote:

>   ___________
>   |  ------ | <- Shield plate
> 1 | x x x - | 4
> 5 | + x ? ? | 8
>   ----__----
> 
> 
> The x are unconnected.  The ? are either TX or RX.
> 
> 
> Which means that -- assuming the ports are identical, which is a good assumption now -- we've found RST, and the port looks like this:
> 
>   _________________
>   |     ------    | <- Shield plate
> 1 | +   -   -   - | 4
> 5 | +   Rst   ?   ? | 8
>   -------__-------
> 
> I'd bet the mouse and keyboard are both supposed to produce TTL serial on those last two pins.


Err, correction.  Apparently the top positive line is connected in the mouse and not the bottom, so:

   ___________
   |  ------ | <- Shield plate
 1 | + x x - | 4
 5 | x x ? ? | 8
   ----__----


I can also tell you that my FTDI adapter behaves most reasonably when it expects the system to be transmitting on what is labelled pin 8 above and the device to the system on pin 7 next to it, so the port pinout in full is:

 
   ______________
   |   ------   | <- Shield plate
 1 | +  -  -  - | 4
 5 | + RST Rx Tx | 8
   -----__------


That is, Tx and Rx with respect to the system transmitting or receiving.


Haven't really been able to get any data through yet, but -- if you set your serial port to 19200, and if you power the mouse at 5v according to the diagram (3.3v will definitely not work; I thought I'd try it since my FTDI board can produce 3.3v on its own) you get garbage data from the mouse every time you send a break, or if you leave the tx line disconnected.  I assume it's using this for flow control and perhaps some other stuff -- who knows.  

So I guess the next question is, how many data bits, stop bits, and what's the parity?  If we can figure that out, it's looking really easy to interface with this thing.  I mean, I had its mouse plugged into my Linux box today and pushing data in, which is a reasonable start. 


Chris

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