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restarting comp.newprod, comp.simulation and comp.std.announce

From Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.netREMOVE.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.misc, comp.std.misc
Subject restarting comp.newprod, comp.simulation and comp.std.announce
Followup-To comp.misc
Date 2025-04-26 18:42 +0000
Organization Dbus-free station.
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	[Cross-posting to news:comp.std.misc , as suggested in
	news:vs73t3$3hlga$2@dont-email.me , but setting Followup-To:
	news:comp.misc , as the former group doesn't seem to be active.]

	As some might know, back in March I've volunteered to take over
	moderation of comp.newprod and comp.std.announce newsgroups
	that are currently unusable due to the lack of a moderator.
	(My news.groups.proposals post is in the References:.)

	In my post I also suggested for comp.simulation (and a few other
	non-comp.* groups) to become unmoderated.  I don't seem to see
	any response to that, so assuming the intent is still to remove
	it, I'm volunteering to take over its moderation as well.

	Like I've mentioned, I've never had much interest in moderated
	newsgroups before, much less been a moderator of one, so I can't
	promise smooth operation, especially right from the start.

	And regardless, I'd prefer not doing the thing entirely on my
	own; anyone here interested in taking part, perchance?

	My plan is to set up message submission email addresses aliased
	to my own mailbox, and approve (or not approve) them from there.
	Should there ever be any co-moderators, I'd move submissions to
	a password-protected portion of an https: website and provide
	an HTTP/1-based API (usable with curl(1) and compatible with
	Lynx, naturally) to approve the messages there.

	It's possible that I'd implement a whitelist of known-good
	posters for auto-approval, though that will require a way for
	the software to /identify/ such posters.  Such as, e. g., a
	direct email message (Newsgroups: and all) to the submission
	address, with a valid DKIM signature for the MAIL FROM: domain. 

	There're scarcely any mention of the groups at hand under
	http://ftp.isc.org/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/
	(they might've been created outside of the Big-8 practices
	employed today): comp.windows.x.i386unix and comp.lsi.testing
	mention news:comp.newprod and news:comp.simulation ,
	respectively, while comp.remove-former-inet lists .std.announce
	among the groups proposed for deletion, though the group was
	kept in the end.

	My intent for the groups is to, obviously, keep them on-topic.
	Other than that, I'm going to check for what IETF / IESG
	announcement lists are around here and, if fitting, start
	forwarding messages from there to comp.std.announce.

	My secondary objective would be to keep the groups reasonably
	low-traffic, limiting the number of posts (so to save the
	readers from pressing "next, please" too many times, etc.)
	rather their cumulative size (data transfer is cheap these
	days, though my MX /does/ have rather tight message size
	limits.)  In particular, I might, on occasion, ask users to
	repost their handful of articles of few lines each as a single
	larger one.

	Should any of the groups attract too much traffic (as unlikely
	as it is to happen), I'd be proposing some sort of quality
	guidelines, and, once those are enacted, start rejecting
	articles failing to meet them.

	By the by, I'd appreciate Message-Id:s of whatever periodic
	postings that were seen there.  A cursory web search didn't
	reveal much to go by, and as the groups might've been created
	outside of the Big-8 process, there's no charter on file for
	them, either.

	That'd be all for now.  Thoughts?

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restarting comp.newprod, comp.simulation and comp.std.announce Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.netREMOVE.invalid> - 2025-04-26 18:42 +0000

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