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Re: More on 'simplify'

Newsgroups comp.soft-sys.math.maple
Date 2018-04-07 20:14 -0700
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Subject Re: More on 'simplify'
From acer <maple@rogers.com>

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On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 5:21:39 AM UTC-4, Peter Luschny wrote:
> I do understand that simplifying is hard and that Maple made
> some progress over the years. Still it is worth to see some
> examples where it fails (failed?) at least in the hope that
> such cases will be included by Maple in their test examples. 
> 
> A    := proc(len) local egf, ser, coef:
> egf  := (log(sqrt((1-2*x)^2+1)+1)-log(1-2*x))/sqrt(2):
> ser  := series(egf,x,len+2): 
> coef := n -> simplify(n!*coeff(ser,x,n)):
> seq(lprint(coef(n)), n=1..len): end:
> A(20); 
> 
> 1
> 3
> 13
> 75
> 561
> 5355
> 63405
> 894915
> 14511105
> 263544435
> 5284255725
> 116065424475
> 2778006733425
> 72093290744475
> (2017526711525325/2)*(275807*2^(1/2)+390050)*2^(1/2)/(2^(1/2)+1)^15
> (60547198550713875/2)*(665857*2^(1/2)+941664)*2^(1/2)/(2^(1/2)+1)^16
> (1938662110170410625/2)*(1607521*2^(1/2)+2273378)*2^(1/2)/(2^(1/2)+1)^17
> (65941564342927147875/2)*(3880899*2^(1/2)+5488420)*2^(1/2)/(2^(1/2)+1)^18
> (2374177441960545346125/2)*(9369319*2^(1/2)+13250218)*2^(1/2)/(2^(1/2)+1)^19
> (90211614359319635056875/2)*(22619537*2^(1/2)+31988856)*2^(1/2)/(2^(1/2)+1)^20
> 
> On the other hand, for example,  
> 
> (1/2)*(275807*sqrt(2)+390050)*sqrt(2)/(sqrt(2)+1)^15: simplify(%);
> 
> returns 1.


I agree that it would be better if `simplify` would produce the integer forms for those.

I notice that replacing the command `simplify` with either `radnormal` or `evala` produces those integers, pretty quickly.

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More on 'simplify' Peter Luschny <peter.luschny@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 02:21 -0700
  Re: More on 'simplify' acer <maple@rogers.com> - 2018-04-07 20:14 -0700
  More on 'simplify' mitri.franca@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 13:35 -0700

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