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[CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength

Started byRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
First post2018-05-17 11:59 +0000
Last post2018-05-18 19:54 +0200
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  [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2018-05-17 11:59 +0000
    Re: [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-17 13:27 +0100
      Re: [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2018-05-17 11:23 -0300
      Re: [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-05-18 19:43 +0200
        Re: [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-05-18 19:54 +0200

#1275 — [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2018-05-17 11:59 +0000
Subject[CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength
Message-ID<kd70te-al6.ln1@raspberry.therandymon.com>
From the «you be me, i'll be you» department:
Title: Smarter People Don't Have Better Passwords, Study Finds
Author: help@slashdot.org
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 17:41:00 -0400
Link: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/KtHJcXda-9o/smarter-people-dont-have-better-passwords-study-finds

An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college in the
Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad passwords in the
same proportion as students with bad ones. The study's focused around a new
rule added to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
guideline for choosing secure passwords -- added in its 2017 edition. The NIST
recommendation was that websites check if a user's supplied password was
compromised before by verifying if the password is also listed in previous
public breaches. If the password is included in previous breaches, the website
is to consider the password insecure because all of these exposed passwords
have most likely been added to even the most basic password-guessing
brute-forcing tools.

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Read more of this story[7] at Slashdot.
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#1276

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-05-17 13:27 +0100
Message-ID<87lgcijwlh.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#1275
RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> quotes:
> An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college
> in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad
> passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones.

The conclusion stated in the study seems to be the opposite.

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https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#1277

FromShadow <Sh@dow.br>
Date2018-05-17 11:23 -0300
Message-ID<m04rfddfohf2b8frd54q80pr237p50a8t2@4ax.com>
In reply to#1276
On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:27:38 +0100, Richard Kettlewell
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> quotes:
>> An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college
>> in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad
>> passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones.
>
>The conclusion stated in the study seems to be the opposite.

+1

https://www.bleepstatic.com/images/news/u/986406/Research/Passwords-exposed-table.png

Maybe they should be testing the interpreter's IQs.
	;)
	[]'s

	
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We have a new policy  - Google 2012

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#1278

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2018-05-18 19:43 +0200
Message-ID<cuf3te-l0m.ln1@news2.chingola.ch>
In reply to#1276
On 2018-05-17, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> quotes:
>> An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college
>> in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad
>> passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones.
>
> The conclusion stated in the study seems to be the opposite.
>

The headline of the article in The Register indicated the opposite:

<https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/smart_people_passwords/>

    Bombshell discovery: When it comes to passwords, the smarter
    students have it figured
    If by 'smart' you mean one who 'gets good grades'

-- 
In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future.
The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no
longer exists.                                           –– Eric Hoffer

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#1279

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2018-05-18 19:54 +0200
Message-ID<qjg3te-l0m.ln1@news2.chingola.ch>
In reply to#1278
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.misc.]
On 2018-05-18, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2018-05-17, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> quotes:
>>> An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college
>>> in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad
>>> passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones.
>>
>> The conclusion stated in the study seems to be the opposite.
>>
>
> The headline of the article in The Register indicated the opposite:
>
><https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/smart_people_passwords/>
>
>     Bombshell discovery: When it comes to passwords, the smarter
>     students have it figured
>     If by 'smart' you mean one who 'gets good grades'

The paper's author joins the discussion in the comments section to
that Register article:

<https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2018/05/10/smart_people_passwords/>

If you skip to his last comment at

<https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2018/05/10/smart_people_passwords/#c_3512600>

we find what he was trying to prove:

    "In the end, repeated experiments and studies (across more
    institutions) would likely converge on my original (planned)
    conclusion - the reasons for weak passwords are more psychological
    than intellectual."


-- 
In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future.
The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no
longer exists.                                           –– Eric Hoffer

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