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| Started by | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| First post | 2018-05-17 11:59 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-05-18 19:54 +0200 |
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[CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2018-05-17 11:59 +0000
Re: [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-17 13:27 +0100
Re: [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2018-05-17 11:23 -0300
Re: [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-05-18 19:43 +0200
Re: [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-05-18 19:54 +0200
| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 11:59 +0000 |
| Subject | [CM] study: no correlation between intelligence and password strength |
| Message-ID | <kd70te-al6.ln1@raspberry.therandymon.com> |
From the «you be me, i'll be you» department: Title: Smarter People Don't Have Better Passwords, Study Finds Author: help@slashdot.org Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 17:41:00 -0400 Link: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/KtHJcXda-9o/smarter-people-dont-have-better-passwords-study-finds An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones. The study's focused around a new rule added to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) guideline for choosing secure passwords -- added in its 2017 edition. The NIST recommendation was that websites check if a user's supplied password was compromised before by verifying if the password is also listed in previous public breaches. If the password is included in previous breaches, the website is to consider the password insecure because all of these exposed passwords have most likely been added to even the most basic password-guessing brute-forcing tools. [image 2][2][image 4][4][image 6][6] Read more of this story[7] at Slashdot. [image 8] Links: [1]: http://twitter.com/home?status=Smarter+People+Don't+Have+Better+Passwords%2C+Study+Finds%3A+http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F2IlW0sE (link) [2]: https://a.fsdn.com/sd/twitter_icon_large.png (image) [3]: http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftech.slashdot.org%2Fstory%2F18%2F05%2F15%2F196222%2Fsmarter-people-dont-have-better-passwords-study-finds%3Futm_source%3Dslashdot%26utm_medium%3Dfacebook (link) [4]: https://a.fsdn.com/sd/facebook_icon_large.png (image) [5]: http://plus.google.com/share?url=https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/05/15/196222/smarter-people-dont-have-better-passwords-study-finds?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=googleplus (link) [6]: https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/gplus-16.png (image) [7]: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/05/15/196222/smarter-people-dont-have-better-passwords-study-finds?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feed (link) [8]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~4/KtHJcXda-9o (image)
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 13:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87lgcijwlh.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #1275 |
RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> quotes: > An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college > in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad > passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones. The conclusion stated in the study seems to be the opposite. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | Shadow <Sh@dow.br> |
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| Date | 2018-05-17 11:23 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <m04rfddfohf2b8frd54q80pr237p50a8t2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1276 |
On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:27:38 +0100, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> quotes: >> An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college >> in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad >> passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones. > >The conclusion stated in the study seems to be the opposite. +1 https://www.bleepstatic.com/images/news/u/986406/Research/Passwords-exposed-table.png Maybe they should be testing the interpreter's IQs. ;) []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 19:43 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <cuf3te-l0m.ln1@news2.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #1276 |
On 2018-05-17, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> quotes:
>> An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college
>> in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad
>> passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones.
>
> The conclusion stated in the study seems to be the opposite.
>
The headline of the article in The Register indicated the opposite:
<https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/smart_people_passwords/>
Bombshell discovery: When it comes to passwords, the smarter
students have it figured
If by 'smart' you mean one who 'gets good grades'
--
In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future.
The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no
longer exists. –– Eric Hoffer
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-05-18 19:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <qjg3te-l0m.ln1@news2.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #1278 |
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On 2018-05-18, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2018-05-17, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> quotes:
>>> An anonymous reader shares a report: A study carried out at a college
>>> in the Philippines shows that students with better grades use bad
>>> passwords in the same proportion as students with bad ones.
>>
>> The conclusion stated in the study seems to be the opposite.
>>
>
> The headline of the article in The Register indicated the opposite:
>
><https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/smart_people_passwords/>
>
> Bombshell discovery: When it comes to passwords, the smarter
> students have it figured
> If by 'smart' you mean one who 'gets good grades'
The paper's author joins the discussion in the comments section to
that Register article:
<https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2018/05/10/smart_people_passwords/>
If you skip to his last comment at
<https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2018/05/10/smart_people_passwords/#c_3512600>
we find what he was trying to prove:
"In the end, repeated experiments and studies (across more
institutions) would likely converge on my original (planned)
conclusion - the reasons for weak passwords are more psychological
than intellectual."
--
In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future.
The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no
longer exists. –– Eric Hoffer
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