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Re: UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street

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Subject Re: UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street
Date Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:12:43 +0000
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On 15/02/2019 09:55, Incubus wrote:
> On 2019-02-15, --Soccer4Life>> <usasoccer16794@geocities.com> wrote:
>> <https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/facial-recognition-cameras-technology-london-trial-met-police-face-cover-man-fined-a8756936.html>
>>
>> A man has been fined after refusing to be scanned by controversial facial recognition cameras being trialled by the Metropolitan Police.
>>
>> The force had put out a statement saying "anyone who declines to be scanned will not necessarily be viewed as suspicious". However, witnesses said several people were stopped after covering their faces or pulling up hoods.
>>
>> Campaign group Big Brother Watch said one man had seen placards warning members of the public that automatic facial recognition cameras were filming them from a parked police van.
>>
>> "He simply pulled up the top of his jumper over the bottom of his face, put his head down and walked past," said director Silkie Carlo.
>>
>> "There was nothing suspicious about him at all _ you have the right to avoid [the cameras], you have the right to cover your face. I think he was exercising his rights."
>>
>> Ms Carlo, who was monitoring Thursday's trial in Romford, London, told The Independent she saw a plainclothed police officer follow the man before a group of officers "pulled him over to one side".
>>
>> She said they demanded to see the man's identification, which he gave them, and became "accusatory and aggressive".
>>
>> "The guy told them to p*** off and then they gave him the _90 public order fine for swearing," Ms Carlo added. "He was really angry."
>>
>> A spokesperson said officers were instructed to "use their judgment" on whether to stop people who avoid cameras.
>>
>> "Officers stopped a man who was seen acting suspiciously in Romford town centre during the deployment of the live facial recognition technology," a statement said.
>>
>> "After being stopped the man became aggressive and made threats towards officers. He was issued with a penalty notice for disorder as a result."
>>
>> Eight people were arrested during the eight-hour trial, although only three were a direct result of facial recognition technology.
>>
>> A 15-year-old boy identified by the cameras was arrested on suspicion of robbery but released with no further action.
>>
>> A 28-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of false imprisonment and another man, 35-year-old man, was arrested on suspicion of breach of a molestation order.
>>
>> The other arrests were two teenage boys accused of robbery, a 17-year-old boy accused of firing a gun and two men, aged 25 and 46, for drug possession.
>>
>> The deployment trial was due to continue on Friday, but rescheduled because of forecast snow and cold temperatures causing "low footfall".
>>
>> Monitors saw several other people stopped outside Romford station, in north east London, including a student who had pulled his hood up and a man handcuffed and put in a police van.
>>
>> Activists from the Liberty human rights group said they spoke to a youth worker who was stopped because he "looked like someone" on a watchlist, but had been misidentified.
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>> Scotland Yard said the two-day deployment of cameras in Romford would be the last of 10 trials of the controversial technology.
>>
>> The Independent revealed that more than _200,000 was spent on six deployments that resulted in no arrests between August 2016 and July last year. Two people wanted for violent offences were arrested after a trial in December.
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>> Critics have called the force's use of facial recognition a "shambles" and accused Scotland Yard of wasting public money.
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>> Automatic facial recognition software compares live footage of people's faces to photos from a watchlist of selected images from a police database.
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>> Any potential matches are flashed up as an alert to officers, who then compare the faces and decide whether to stop someone.
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>> The Metropolitan Police has described the deployments as "overt" and said members of the public were informed facial recognition was being used by posters and leaflets.
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>> But no one questioned by The Independent after they passed through a scanning zone in central London in December had seen police publicity material, and campaigners claim the technology is being rolled out "by stealth".
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>> Detective Chief Superintendent Ivan Balhatchet, Scotland Yard's lead for facial recognition, said a full independent evaluation will be carried out.
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>> "The technology used in Romford forms part of the Met's ongoing efforts to reduce crime in the area, with a specific focus on tackling violence," he added.
>>
>> "As with all previous deployments the technology was used overtly. We continue to engage with many different stakeholders, some who actively challenge our use of this technology."
> 
> Police State 2019...
> 

It's outrageous. It's what people would expect of Corbyn's socialist 
state of Great Britain.

Labour does, of course, have a track record of imprisoning suspects 
without trial and being slapped down by our judges. It always made 
Blunkett very petulant, when he was slapped down.

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UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street "--Soccer4Life>>" <usasoccer16794@geocities.com> - 2019-02-15 04:30 +0000
  Re: UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 09:55 +0000
    Re: UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> - 2019-02-15 10:12 +0000
      Re: UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 11:18 +0000
    Re: UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com> - 2019-02-15 10:40 +0000
  Re: UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street Pamela <pamela.uklegal@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 13:49 +0000
    Re: UK man fined after avoiding facial recognition scanner on street William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-02-16 21:47 +0000

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