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Re: advice on hardware purchase

From Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk>
Newsgroups comp.os.os2.ecomstation, comp.os.os2.misc, comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.os2.setup.storage
Subject Re: advice on hardware purchase
Date 2011-02-11 23:30 +0000
Organization Anjou
Message-ID <871v3e5eup.fsf@araminta.anjou.terraraq.org.uk> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <mdq090pMZSKk-pn2-W5kcMwS5Sdrr@localhost> <iiuck3$ean$1@speranza.aioe.org> <IU.D20110210.T185157.P9830.Q0@J.de.Boyne.Pollard.localhost> <ij2dk4$6km$1@speranza.aioe.org> <IU.D20110211.T230325.P5248.Q0@J.de.Boyne.Pollard.localhost>

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Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM>
writes:

> Ah.  You wrote "partition tables".  OS/2's LVM information is a quite
> different kettle of fish.  I can understand how that might have become
> damaged by a Linux distribution.  It doesn't reside in the partition
> table proper.  It resides in unallocated space.  And everyone should,
> after all of these years, know the principle of not relying on being
> able to freely use unallocated disc space for one's own purposes, or
> even relying upon its existence in the first place given how some of
> the world doesn't even use the MBR partitioning scheme any more.
> (It's a pity that IBM's LVM didn't follow in the wise footsteps of
> IBM's BootManager, and claim the space it uses with an actual
> partition.  Microsoft's dynamic disc management gets that right.  So
> does Linux LVM, albeit in a different way.)  Ironically, there's
> probably something in Ubuntu making the same foolish and selfish
> assumption.  (This is, of course, one of the reasons WHY one cannot
> rely upon unallocated space.  Everyone else selfishly had the same
> wrongheaded idea, and they all conflict.)

I think your guess is right.  Ubuntu uses grub2 as a bootloader and does
exactly this on BIOS-based systems if the space before the first
partition is large enough.

A couple of releveant links:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-08/msg00137.html

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http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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Re: advice on hardware purchase Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-02-11 23:30 +0000

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