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| From | Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.os2.utilities, comp.os.os2.misc, comp.os.os2.beta |
| Subject | Re: formatting to FAT32 |
| References | (11 earlier) <4d936caa$9$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <IU.D20110330.T234840.P61546.Q0@J.de.Boyne.Pollard.localhost> <4d948666$10$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <IU.D20110331.T160420.P8510.Q0@J.de.Boyne.Pollard.localhost> <4d960ec5$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> |
| Message-ID | <IU.D20110401.T225751.P50136.Q0@J.de.Boyne.Pollard.localhost> (permalink) |
| Organization | virginmedia.com |
| Date | 2011-04-01 23:57 +0100 |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
>> Kid, stop trying to solve this problem. >> > Gladly; it's not my dog, and you aren't willing to be helped > Your "help" comprises teaching your grandfather to suck eggs. It's stupid, thoughtless, and inane. I know the basics, kid. I don't need someone to hand-hold me through them on Usenet. And you'd know this if you put the old brain box into gear and thought. You've *seen* me hand-hold people through the basics often enough. I've been doing it for nigh on 20 years. >> Yes, and I'm experienced enough in these things to know that that's >> not necessarily the truth. The truth is unknown in this instance. >> > But not experienced enough to know that it probably is. > On the contrary, I clearly have enough experience to have thought of something that you clearly haven't thought of. And it's a fairly obvious thing. Apply a little brainpower, for goodness' sake. >> I do know my way around SMTP electronic mail, having written the odd >> mail server here and there, and have enough experience with dancing >> the same silly dances over and over again to immediately know when >> something is a lost cause, and I don't have the time to waste right >> now in going through the basics with someone on Usenet, thank you. >> I'm trying to give people a utility for checking their FAT32 volumes. >> > Trying to get a listing removed without fixing the problem? > As I said, thoughtless and inane. Apply that brain, kid. My ISP has been blacklisted by PenTeleData. Who says that it is *anything at all to do with me*? That would be astonishingly presumptuous to think that. There's about 10 million customers, there. > Especially if you keep blaming the list operator without knowing > whether the listing is legitimate. > The list operator can list whomever it likes, however sensible or foolish that may be; that's its prerogative. But you're trying to have your cake and eat it. You're trying to argue that there's a possibility that the listing is not legitimate in the same breath as you're trying to argue that all listings are in accordance with what the WWW page says because listings are only ever made legitimately. You cannot have both at the same time. The Clue which is not percolating through to you, that you're risibly trying to paint as inexperience, is that *the WWW page isn't necessarily the truth*. Good grief, kid! People don't always tell the truth on their WWW sites. Indeed, people often *deliberately* don't explain what countermeasures they use against foes. Nor, indeed, do they always stick to their own blacklisting policies. Once you've had as much experience with these silly dances as I'm speaking from, you'll know that what I wrote above is the case. There's no reason to believe that the WWW page is necessarily the truth, and no reason to suppose that we know *any part at all* of the reason for PenTeleData deciding to blacklist an entire ISP. I said that the truth is unknown, and it is. For all you or I know, the postmaster at PenTeleData could have made a typing error, could have made an emergency listing bypassing published procedure to deal with something of the moment, or could be working to some quite different unpublished blacklisting policy. Your assumption that the only possible chain of events that least to this sort of thing happening is the one chain of events laid out on a WWW page is simply naive, and your assumption that the chain of events laid out on the WWW page would have anything to do with me even were it the case is (a) foolish and not thought through at all (given that M. Dodel's mailbox clearly is *not* a honeypot), (b) professionally insulting (given the clear presumption on your part that I therefore must have sent some junk mail, since that's the stated prerequisite), and (c) sophomorically free from any thought of the fact that there are several million other people in the equation.
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Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-03-30 12:36 +0100
Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-03-31 00:49 +0100
Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-03-31 17:04 +0100
Re: formatting to FAT32 "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor.Hemsley@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> - 2011-04-01 15:33 -0500
Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-02 02:17 +0100
Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-01 23:57 +0100
Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-05 19:12 +0100
Re: formatting to FAT32 "Mark Dodel" <madodelNOSPAM@ptd.net> - 2011-03-31 15:23 -0500
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