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Re: Running an old DOS program

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Industrial One wrote:
 
> I was told that legacy DOS drivers are no longer made for modern
> mobos as of like 5 years ago,

It's my impression that the only "DOS" drivers that really keep hanging
on or keep showing up on the driver CD of new motherboards are for the
integrated network (ethernet) ports.  Same also for PCI ethernet cards.

I can't really say that I've ever seen DOS drivers lately for other
aspects of the guts of your typical PC (such as chipset, sound, video,
usb, etc).  

Normally the system BIOS can supply DOS with all it needs to interact
with the video system (at least up to VGA 640 x 480 mode), com ports,
IDE and even SATA controllers and attached drives, keyboard and mouse,
etc.  USB under DOS has always been a questionable issue - but given
your handle (Industrial One) I would suspect that you wound't have much
interest or need in USB functionality under DOS.

Something that would affect the situation drastically for DOS on modern
motherboards is the change from the traditional BIOS to some new form of
bios that I hear is coming out (or is already out) on some bleeding-edge
motherboards (I forget what it's called).

Oh - you should have cross-posted this to some DOS groups, because
Windows 98 is not really a DOS-based operating system.  It is a win32 OS
that just happens to get boot-strapped or started from a DOS-mode
state.  Win-98 puts the CPU into 32-bit protected mode and offers a
virtual DOS environment for any 16-bit apps that need it.  Win-2k and XP
does the same thing, and I think so does Vista.  Windows 7 (I think)
does not offer a virtual DOS environment.

I'm adding comp.os.msdos.programmer to the distribution of this thread
(it seems to be the most active "DOS" group).

> but I constantly hear about nostalgic mofos finding workarounds.

You can take pretty much any motherboard made even today and boot and
run DOS on it, regardless what sort of hard-drive you attach to the
system.  There is nothing nostalgic about that.

What you might or should find nostalgic is seeing any win-9x/me drivers
for modern hardware.  

You seem to be equating win-9x/me to DOS in terms of drivers or
hardware, and that would be a false equation.

> I do have a workaround which is DOSBox but it greatly slowed down
> the performance. 
> 
> So yeah, any way to run my program natively or at least a way
> faster than running it through DOSBox?

Booting a moderm motherboard with DOS is easily possible.  Why haven't
you tried that?

Go out and do a search for "DOS 7.1" and download it from the web some
where.  Put it on a floppy disk and take it to your desired or target
machine and boot it with the floppy.  Attach a hard drive to the machine
and run fdisk and format from the floppy and format the hard drive so
that it will boot into DOS all by itself.  Copy all the files and
software you have from your windoze PC to this DOS pc using what-ever
means you can (floppy disks, burned onto a CD, etc).

Why is this so hard for people to do?

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Re: Running an old DOS program 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> - 2012-03-08 10:24 -0500
  Re: Running an old DOS program Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2012-03-08 08:39 -0700
  Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 09:06 -0800
    Re: Running an old DOS program Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2012-03-08 10:32 -0700
    Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-08 17:44 -0600
    Re: Running an old DOS program Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> - 2012-03-09 13:36 +1100
      Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-09 08:07 -0800
        Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-09 11:32 -0600
        Re: Running an old DOS program Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> - 2012-03-14 09:10 +1100
        Re: Running an old DOS program Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2012-03-30 14:37 -0700
          Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-30 17:45 -0700
            Re: Running an old DOS program Ronald Phillips <ronald.phillips@gmail.com> - 2012-04-06 09:49 -0700
    Re: Running an old DOS program piper@nohoo.com - 2012-03-09 10:33 -0600
      Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-09 11:40 -0600
      Re: Running an old DOS program Zaphod Beeblebrox <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> - 2012-03-09 13:34 -0500
    Re: Running an old DOS program Jim Leonard <mobygamer@gmail.com> - 2012-03-15 07:52 -0700
  Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-08 17:33 -0600
    Re: Running an old DOS program dg1261 <dgREMOVE-THIS1261@cs.com> - 2012-03-10 01:23 +0000
      Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-09 21:02 -0600
        Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-10 04:41 -0800
          Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-10 17:44 -0600
            Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 03:00 -0700
              Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-11 06:14 -0500
                Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 04:35 -0700
                Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-11 08:46 -0500
                Re: Running an old DOS program BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-03-11 09:35 -0500
                Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-11 10:06 -0500
                Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 17:57 -0700
                Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-11 20:59 -0500
                Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 19:33 -0700
                Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-11 22:06 -0500
                Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 20:34 -0700
                Re: Running an old DOS program Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-11 23:33 -0500
                Re: Running an old DOS program Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> - 2012-03-12 01:09 -0400
                Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 23:02 -0700
                Re: Running an old DOS program 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> - 2012-03-12 19:59 -0400
                Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-12 20:44 -0700
                Re: Running an old DOS program "Hot-Text" <hot-text@mynews.ath.cx> - 2012-03-14 03:25 -0500
                Re: Running an old DOS program Industrial One <industrial_one@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 23:02 -0700
                Re: Running an old DOS program Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2012-03-30 14:40 -0700

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