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  Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com> - 2011-05-27 13:17 -0700
    Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2011-05-27 13:52 -0800
      Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-27 16:40 -0500
    Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-27 15:58 -0500
    Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2011-05-27 17:07 -0400
    Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? Hans Goossen <goossen@gmx.com> - 2011-07-22 11:23 -0400
      Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-07-22 16:26 +0100
      Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-07-22 17:09 +0000
      Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid (Moe Trin) - 2011-07-23 13:26 -0500
      Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? Matt Giwer <jull43@tampabay.rr.com> - 2011-07-29 08:06 -0400
      Re: Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux? Roy Strachan <Don't.be@silly.org> - 2011-08-04 01:35 +0000

#403 — Do Genuine Intel Processors still work better for Linux?

What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?

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#404

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<0ba16f08-a83f-42a5-9dcf-26209ae05cd8@m10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
greegor47@gmail.com (Greegor) writes:

> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?

The advertising campaign?

My box runs a dual-core AMD processor (Athlon 5200+).

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#407

On 2011-05-27, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> In article
><0ba16f08-a83f-42a5-9dcf-26209ae05cd8@m10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> greegor47@gmail.com (Greegor) writes:
>
>> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?
>
> The advertising campaign?

   The kool-aid.

   My Intel's all run hotter than their AMD counterparts. At this point, I
think this is as much of an issue as anything else. I have never had any
trouble with AMD or any other non-Intel kit in Linux. They run quite well
in Linux and quite adequately do the whole multi-core thing and can churn
away for days if I give them enough work to do (and I can).

>
> My box runs a dual-core AMD processor (Athlon 5200+).
>

   I have an X4 and an X6 as well as a bunch of IONs.

   Also have a couple of older (i945) Mac Minis.

   Short of a particular mobo chipset being bleeding edge and having
poor driver support, I can't imagine why there would be any difference
between Intel & AMD cpus in Linux.

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#405

Greegor writes:
> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?

They don't.  Never have.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#406

On May 27, 2011 16:17, in comp.os.linux.setup, greegor47@gmail.com wrote:

> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?

Your question is ambiguous, and can't be answered as it is.

When you say "work better for Linux", do you mean
  "work faster/more efficiently under Linux than under some other OS"?
or perhaps
  "work faster/more efficiently than processors from another company"?

If you mean "better under Linux than under Windows", that's a question for
Microsoft, and not for us.

If you mean "better Linux experience with Intel than some other processor",
then you probably have it wrong. FWIW, I've found that Intel processors are
usually underpowered as compared to their AMD price-point counterparts, and
an IBM Z-series processor blows both AMD and Intel away. 

Clarify your question, please.

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#835

On Fri, 27 May 2011, Greegor wrote:

> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?
>

IMHO Intel is not exactly a very good friend of Linux...

hans

http://www.paraguaycoins.com/

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#836

Hans Goossen wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2011, Greegor wrote:
> 
>> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?
>>
> 
> IMHO Intel is not exactly a very good friend of Linux...
> 
> hans
> 
> http://www.paraguaycoins.com/

And linux mostly doesn't care, broadly using whatever the processor has 
to offer..its just that Intel COMPATIBLE processors are usually the 
cheapest way to build a computer.

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#839

Am Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:23:42 -0400 schrieb Hans Goossen:

> On Fri, 27 May 2011, Greegor wrote:
>> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?
> IMHO Intel is not exactly a very good friend of Linux...

Really? They provide an Open Source graphic driver with vaapi and I 
believe even with OpenCL even for their newest chips.
I believe Intel was involved in creating the USB3 driver and the AVX 
support too.

I don't really see why to say that.

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#851

On Fri, 22 Jul 2011, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<alpine.LNX.2.00.1107221123070.1736@betelgeuse>, Hans Goossen wrote:

>Greegor wrote:

>> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?

cite?

>IMHO Intel is not exactly a very good friend of Linux...

and why do you think that to be true?   If I look at the ChangeLog for
the kernel released yesterday, I see

[compton ~]$ ls -l  ChangeLog-3.0
-rw-r--r--   1 ibuprofi users     6347251 Jul 22 12:21 ChangeLog-3.0
[compton ~]$ head -6 ChangeLog-3.0
commit 02f8c6aee8df3cdc935e9bdd4f2d020306035dbe
Author: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Date:   Thu Jul 21 19:17:23 2011 -0700

    Linux 3.0

[compton ~]$ grep -c ^Author ChangeLog-3.0 
9843
[compton ~]$ grep -c '^Author:.*intel.com' ChangeLog-3.0 
796
[compton ~]$ grep -c '^Author:.*amd.com' ChangeLog-3.0 
91
[compton ~]$ grep ^Author ChangeLog-3.0 | cut -d'@' -f2 | sort | uniq
 -c | sort -rn | head -24 | column
    721 gmail.com>                    129 opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
    664 intel.com>                    124 nokia.com>
    633 redhat.com>                   120 cam.ac.uk>
    447 linux-foundation.org>         105 kernel.org>
    361 microsoft.com>                104 samsung.com>
    241 atheros.com>                  101 cn.fujitsu.com>
    226 ti.com>                        99 linaro.org>
    222 broadcom.com>                  97 linux.intel.com>
    215 davemloft.net>                 92 marvell.com>
    201 suse.de>                       91 amd.com>
    196 oracle.com>                    85 linux.vnet.ibm.com>
    142 suse.cz>                       81 chello.nl>
[compton ~]$

        Old guy

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#877

On 07/22/2011 11:23 AM, Hans Goossen wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2011, Greegor wrote:
>> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?
> IMHO Intel is not exactly a very good friend of Linux...
> hans
> http://www.paraguaycoins.com/

	Never did. Processors like apps not OSs. Of course at this level an OS is an
app.

	Back eleven years ago when I left Windows forever Windows ate about 10% of
the CPU cycles and Linux about 3%. Linux overhead by percent has decreased
with clock speed. I assume Windows has done the same. The difference these
days with six times the clock and four times the cores should only bother Mr.
Monk.

	To make it more fun AMD uses rendering software as a benchmark to show it
beats the crap out of Intel. At one time it used Povray. Most of my demanding
processing is rendering with Povray so guess what CPUs I have in my machines.
And that is 3 x $100 savings so I laugh all the way to the bank.

	And that is the point. No matter how you look at it browsers and email and
whatever use the same mix of instructions and Intel's home porno browser to
high end business data base maximized performance does in fact beat AMD.
Intel's approach likely always will. AMD will likely also continue its
specialized approach.

	If your burdensome linux apps are number crunching intensive you go with AMD.
Business usages is mostly servers which is about as far from number crunching
as you can get. So regardless of your OS go with MS for servers on Intel
machines.

	And here is the big BUT(t) -- factoring in the licensing cost for MS may make
more servers overall cheaper for the same performance.

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Fri Jul 29 07:49:25 EDT 2011

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#881

On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:23:42 -0400, Hans Goossen wrote:

> On Fri, 27 May 2011, Greegor wrote:
> 
>> What exactly is it that makes Intel processors work better for Linux?
>>
>>
> IMHO Intel is not exactly a very good friend of Linux...
> 
> hans
> 
> http://www.paraguaycoins.com/

And I'd disagree.  I've got intels from 386's to quads churning away on 
Boinc, some steady for years with no problems and all on Linux.  You pays 
your money and takes your choice.  I think it's mostly personal 
preference.  

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