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Linux Crashing

Started byClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
First post2021-09-27 07:52 -0500
Last post2021-09-28 05:21 +0000
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  Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 07:52 -0500
    Re: Linux Crashing pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-09-27 13:18 +0000
      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 08:32 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:40 -0400
          Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 15:01 +0100
            Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 11:17 -0400
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:55 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:57 +0100
        Re: Linux Crashing Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-09-27 07:36 -0700
        Re: Linux Crashing "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-09-27 20:42 +0200
          Re: Linux Crashing Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-09-27 12:59 -0700
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:49 -0500
    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:20 +0100
      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 08:24 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:49 +0100
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 09:09 -0500
            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-27 20:21 -0600
              Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 23:30 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 13:01 +0100
                  Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:34 -0500
                    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 19:31 +0100
                      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 15:55 -0500
                        Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 21:53 -0600
                          Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 04:08 +0000
                            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 22:54 -0600
                              Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 01:59 -0500
                                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 06:31 -0500
                                  Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:13 +0100
                                    Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:15 -0600
                                      Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:34 +0100
                                        Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 21:10 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 23:16 -0500
                                            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:20 -0600
                                              BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:38 -0700
                                              Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:33 -0500
                                                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:35 -0600
                                                  Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:13 -0500
                                                    Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:26 +0000
                                          I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 06:36 -0700
                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:23 -0600
                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-30 09:33 -0500
                                                Dilbert.COM Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:47 -0700
                                                  Re: Dilbert.COM RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-30 11:21 -0400
                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:40 -0600
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-01 06:19 -0500
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 12:51 +0000
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 08:05 -0600
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:18 +0000
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:20 -0600
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 02:24 +0000
                                                    I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 09:46 -0700
                                                      Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
                                                      Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:11 -0600
                                                        Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:26 +0100
                                                          Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 10:54 +0000
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:32 -0500
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:51 -0500
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:06 +0100
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 16:28 -0500
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 21:09 -0600
                                                            ## is a godsend. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 21:29 -0700
                                                              Re: ## is a godsend. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 01:52 -0700
                                                                Re: ## is a godsend. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 10:56 +0000
                                                                  "z1.CPP" ain't no "Dilbert.COM".OopsOops Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 08:57 -0700
                                                                  Re: ## is a godsend. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 12:59 -0700
                                                              Re: ## is a godsend. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:31 -0600
                                                                Improving "z1.CPP" is a pure joy. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:24 -0700
                                                                Re: ## is a godsend. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                                                                  Re: ## is a godsend. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:35 -0600
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:15 +0100
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 11:11 -0500
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:43 +0000
                                                                "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:21 -0600
                                                                    How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:40 -0700
                                                                      Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 00:44 +0100
                                                                        Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:42 -0500
                                                                          Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:36 +0000
                                                                          The Covid cult liberated me from my shackles. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:18 -0700
                                                                      Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:56 -0400
                                                                      My code was forked. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 12:03 -0700
                                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:18 -0600
                                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 00:46 +0100
                                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:34 -0600
                                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:28 +0000
                                                                    No one here cares about what my code actually *does*. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 20:27 -0700
                                                                      Re: No one here cares about what my code actually *does*. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 10:40 +0100
                                                            One huge routine. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:17 -0700
                                                              Re: One huge routine. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000
                                                                Max sucks dicks. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 10:04 -0700
                                                                  Re: Max sucks dicks. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:27 +0000
                                                                Re: One huge routine. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:27 -0600
                                                                  Re: One huge routine. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:30 +0000
                                                              Re: One huge routine. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 15:30 -0500
                                                                Macros & Muscle Memory keep it simple. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 13:47 -0700
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-01 16:15 -0500
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 16:55 -0500
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:00 +0100
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 13:04 -0700
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:43 -0600
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:35 -0500
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 08:09 -0600
                                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 12:42 -0500
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 21:15 -0600
                                                          Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 21:36 -0700
                                                            Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 05:04 +0000
                                                              Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-02 06:44 -0500
                                                            Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:05 +0100
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:03 +0100
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:07 -0600
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 08:56 +0100
                                                          "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:10 -0700
                                                            Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:29 +0100
                                                              People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:40 -0700
                                                                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000
                                                                  Cheating. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:55 -0700
                                                                    Re: Cheating. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-02 13:30 -0500
                                                                      Your "Up" is my "Down". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:45 -0700
                                                                    Re: Cheating. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-02 15:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: Cheating. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-02 14:43 -0500
                                                                        Me, my daughter, and my son. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 13:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:50 -0500
                                                                          Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-02 16:51 -0500
                                                                            Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-10-02 15:29 -0700
                                                                          Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:36 +0000
                                                                            Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-02 22:17 -0400
                                                                              Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 03:26 +0100
                                                                      My kids were born blonde and blue-eyed. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 13:03 -0700
                                                                        Re: My kids were born blonde and blue-eyed. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:34 +0000
                                                                          I was blonde, when younger. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 20:21 -0700
                                                                            Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:50 +0000
                                                                              Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:16 -0500
                                                                                Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:04 -0500
                                                                                    Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:11 +0000
                                                                                      Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:31 -0500
                                                                                        Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:53 +0000
                                                                                  Re: I was blonde, when younger. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:42 -0500
                                                                                    Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 12:08 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 -0500
                                                                    Re: Cheating. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:25 +0000
                                                                      I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 20:14 -0700
                                                                        Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 23:26 -0500
                                                                          Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 21:45 -0700
                                                                            Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:51 +0000
                                                                              Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:18 -0500
                                                                                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:35 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:10 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:13 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 19:52 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 20:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:32 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 20:39 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Helmut Achterberg <"Helmut Achterberg"@localonly.com> - 2021-10-03 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:46 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-03 19:53 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:33 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:54 +0000
                                                                            Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:05 -0500
                                                                              Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:09 -0700
                                                                                Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:18 -0600
                                                                                  Seattle's not big on tolerance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:03 -0600
                                                                                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:46 -0500
                                                                            Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:55 -0600
                                                                          Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:50 +0100
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:55 +0000
                                                                              TFZ is better then Face-To-Face sex. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:41 -0700
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 19:01 -0500
                                                                        Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:15 -0500
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
                                                                              Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:01 -0500
                                                                                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 +0000
                                                                                  Life is everything, yet nothing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 12:17 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Life is everything, yet nothing. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:00 +0000
                                                                                  Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
                                                                                    Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
                                                                              Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
                                                                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
                                                                  The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
                                                            Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                                                            Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
                                                              My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
                                                                Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
                                                            Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
                                                              Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
                                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
                                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
                                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
                                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
                                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
                                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
                                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
                                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
                                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
                                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
                                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
                                              10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
                                              Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
                                                Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
                                              4Re: 1I 5think 2in 5FORTH 1& 7progr 2in 6C/C++ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-30 08:12 -0700
                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
                                              FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600
                                  Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:07 -0600
                                    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:26 +0100
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                                      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 12:01 -0500
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                                                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:03 +0100
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                                                    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 20:23 +0100
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                                                      Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                                                        Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:21 +0000
                                                        Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:13 -0600
                                                          Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:42 +0100
                                                            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:46 -0600
                                                              while(1) Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:56 -0700
                                                          Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                                                            Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:51 -0400
                                                              Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:22 -0600
                                                              Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 15:07 -0400
                                        Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:27 -0600
                                      Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:14 -0600
                                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:02 -0600
                                  Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:09 +0100
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                          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 00:37 -0500
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                  Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:37 -0500
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#4696 — Life is everything, yet nothing.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-10-03 12:17 -0700
SubjectLife is everything, yet nothing.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--0.17pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#4693
Speaking of single men, Max asked:
> Are you BEAST or GOD ?

God is nature; nothing more, nothing less.

Life is everything, yet nothing.

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#4699 — Re: Life is everything, yet nothing.

FromBranimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com>
Date2021-10-03 20:00 +0000
SubjectRe: Life is everything, yet nothing.
Message-ID<SZn6J.38705$GD7.1091@fx23.iad>
In reply to#4696
On 2021-10-03, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
> Speaking of single men, Max asked:
>> Are you BEAST or GOD ?
>
> God is nature; nothing more, nothing less.
>
> Life is everything, yet nothing.
Life is FOOD FOR MOON....

-- 

7-77-777
Evil Sinner!
to weak you should be meek, and you should brainfuck stronger
https://github.com/rofl0r/chaos-pp

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#4706 — Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it.

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
SubjectRe: I did _not_ believe she'd do it.
Message-ID<iruso0F1077U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4693
On 10/3/2021 2:10 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
> On 2021-10-03, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:
>> On 10/3/2021 5:34 AM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>> On 2021-10-03, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/2/2021 11:49 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-10-03, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
>>>>>> You (Max) replied ( to me ):
>>>>>>>> To be fair, I respect her decision; her new man was a better fit for
>>>>>>>> her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because *you beleived* it will happen :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it happened because I did _not_ believe she'd do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are LYING to YOURSELF ...
>>>>
>>>> Isn't this one of those "it doesn't matter" things? The underlying facts
>>>> cannot ever be changed and there is no lesson to be learned that is
>>>> usefully applicable to future events.
>>> It matters because HE IS LONE...
>>
>> So am I, so what?

> Are you BEAST or GOD?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

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#4720 — Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it.

FromBranimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com>
Date2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
SubjectRe: I did _not_ believe she'd do it.
Message-ID<hMv6J.155092$Kv2.97198@fx47.iad>
In reply to#4706
On 2021-10-03, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:
> On 10/3/2021 2:10 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>> On 2021-10-03, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2021 5:34 AM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>>> On 2021-10-03, whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/2/2021 11:49 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-10-03, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
>>>>>>> You (Max) replied ( to me ):
>>>>>>>>> To be fair, I respect her decision; her new man was a better fit for
>>>>>>>>> her.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because *you beleived* it will happen :P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it happened because I did _not_ believe she'd do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are LYING to YOURSELF ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't this one of those "it doesn't matter" things? The underlying facts
>>>>> cannot ever be changed and there is no lesson to be learned that is
>>>>> usefully applicable to future events.
>>>> It matters because HE IS LONE...
>>>
>>> So am I, so what?
>
>> Are you BEAST or GOD?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
>

Only beast or god can live alone as human si social
being: Plato: State :P

-- 

7-77-777
Evil Sinner!
to weak you should be meek, and you should brainfuck stronger
https://github.com/rofl0r/chaos-pp

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#4664 — Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it.

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
SubjectRe: I did _not_ believe she'd do it.
Message-ID<sjc29l$oum$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4651
On 03/10/2021 06:15, whodat wrote:
> On 10/2/2021 11:49 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>> On 2021-10-03, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
>>> You (Max) replied ( to me ):
>>>>> To be fair, I respect her decision;
>>>>> her new man was a better fit for her.
>>>>
>>>> Because *you beleived* it will happen :P
>>>
>>> No, it happened because I did _not_ believe she'd do it.
>>
>> You are LYING to YOURSELF ...
> 
> Isn't this one of those "it doesn't matter" things? The underlying
> facts cannot ever be changed and there is no lesson to be learned
> that is usefully applicable to future events.

Ah. The philosophical Problem of Induction.

Given a result, establish what caused it. Beyond all reasonable doubt.

Do you recall that SF tale where a man goes looking for the Creator and 
finds him propping up a bar in a remote and dull planet somewhere and says:

"Oh Creator, please, why are we all born to suffer, and to die?"
And the creator sighs, puts down his beer glass and says:

"Well, why not?"

-- 
Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle 
more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump 
their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the 
battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is 
that they are dead.
Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

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#4670 — Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it.

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
SubjectRe: I did _not_ believe she'd do it.
Message-ID<irtvlrFq3p7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4664
On 10/3/2021 5:56 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 03/10/2021 06:15, whodat wrote:
>> On 10/2/2021 11:49 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>>> On 2021-10-03, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
>>>> You (Max) replied ( to me ):
>>>>>> To be fair, I respect her decision;
>>>>>> her new man was a better fit for her.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because *you beleived* it will happen :P
>>>>
>>>> No, it happened because I did _not_ believe she'd do it.
>>>
>>> You are LYING to YOURSELF ...
>>
>> Isn't this one of those "it doesn't matter" things? The underlying
>> facts cannot ever be changed and there is no lesson to be learned
>> that is usefully applicable to future events.
> 
> Ah. The philosophical Problem of Induction.
> 
> Given a result, establish what caused it. Beyond all reasonable doubt.
> 
> Do you recall that SF tale where a man goes looking for the Creator and 
> finds him propping up a bar in a remote and dull planet somewhere and says:
> 
> "Oh Creator, please, why are we all born to suffer, and to die?"
> And the creator sighs, puts down his beer glass and says:
> 
> "Well, why not?"

:-)

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#4688 — Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating.

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
SubjectRe: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating.
Message-ID<sjct26$1bq$1@solani.org>
In reply to#4581
On 10/2/2021 11:40 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> He _intentionally_ tossed the game.
> 
> Of course he was fired, he was cheating.
> 
> People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating.
> 


Bankers are crooks to begin with. They wouldn't mind you lurking in 
there for ever as long as you shut your mouth and did "whatever the 
heck" it was that you were doing for 30 years.


Why don't you try your skills in a healthy real business. They'll take 
one look at your code and you're out. You'd indeed prefer not to work 
for now and a few years :)


-- 
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#4691 — The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
SubjectThe loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.3--11.56am.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#4688
I didn't do it for the money.

Working for "The (filthy rich) Bankers", ABA.COM, was a pure joy.

The "Covid cult" guys control The Bankers, it's not their fault.
The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want.

Negative interest rates, stagflation, U.S. Embassy hostages,
VenezuelanStyle gas lines, empty shelves, Jimmy Carter 1980...
...it's all there.

Again:

The "Covid cult" guys liberated me from my shackles,
"Squid Game" ( Netflix Korea ) style.

I don't miss my (32 unit) rooming house manager job;
I'm happy to do nothing now, next few years.

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#4714 — Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating.

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
SubjectRe: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating.
Message-ID<irv593F2ff3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4688
On 10/03/2021 12:33 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 10/2/2021 11:40 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> He _intentionally_ tossed the game.
>>
>> Of course he was fired, he was cheating.
>>
>> People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating.
>>
>
>
> Bankers are crooks to begin with. They wouldn't mind you lurking in
> there for ever as long as you shut your mouth and did "whatever the
> heck" it was that you were doing for 30 years.
>
>
> Why don't you try your skills in a healthy real business. They'll take
> one look at your code and you're out. You'd indeed prefer not to work
> for now and a few years :)
>
>

The president of our company has been known to ask 'What exactly does 
Bob Cratchit do?' In most cases Cratchit is doing a lot more than the 
boss thinks he is, the point being in smaller companies there is more 
scrutiny.

In a large company if the question comes up the answer is 'It's not too 
clear what the hell Cratchit does but he has been doing it for 30 years. 
If we try to fire him now there will be hell to pay. He'll bitch about 
ageism, sexism, racism, and a few other isms and we'll look like fools 
for taking 30 years to figure out that with his mangled, unmaintainable 
code he is actually worse than useless.'

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#4589 — Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies.

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
SubjectRe: "Permies" aren't script kiddies.
Message-ID<tn06J.31680$dI3.6020@fx10.iad>
In reply to#4577
On 2021-10-02, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:

> "Permies" ( i.e. people keep their jobs for 30 years instead of 30 minutes )
> write _complex_ code -- we aren't script kiddies.
>
>> [ the complex app ] fell over two days before the race...again...
>
> That's why we have a multitude of experts & testers.

Don't forget to throw in a few random users.  It's amazing
the sorts of inputs they'll come up with.  You can have
a system you've tested and tightened until it squeaks -
hand it to one of those people and they'll break it in seconds.

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#4593 — Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies.

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
SubjectRe: "Permies" aren't script kiddies.
Message-ID<irrjjjFc9f2U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4577
On 10/02/2021 10:10 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> "Permies" ( i.e. people keep their jobs for 30 years instead of 30 minutes )
> write _complex_ code -- we aren't script kiddies.
>
>> [ the complex app ] fell over two days before the race...again...
>
> That's why we have a multitude of experts & testers.
>

You haven't met our QA head. She would tear your balls off if she 
thought you checked in code without bothering to test it and expected 
her department to clean up your mess.

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#4600 — My work got done joyously.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
SubjectMy work got done joyously.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--11.28am.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#4593
You (Bowman) replied ( to me ):
> > > [ the complex app ] fell over two days before the race...again...
> >
> > That's why we have a multitude of experts & testers.
> 
> You haven't met our QA head. She would tear your balls off if she 
> thought you checked in code without bothering to test it and expected 
> her department to clean up your mess.

My work got done joyously, no one gots their balls cut off.

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#4632 — Re: My work got done joyously.

FromBranimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com>
Date2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
SubjectRe: My work got done joyously.
Message-ID<EJ76J.132113$F26.102743@fx44.iad>
In reply to#4600
On 2021-10-02, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
> You (Bowman) replied ( to me ):
>> > > [ the complex app ] fell over two days before the race...again...
>> >
>> > That's why we have a multitude of experts & testers.
>> 
>> You haven't met our QA head. She would tear your balls off if she 
>> thought you checked in code without bothering to test it and expected 
>> her department to clean up your mess.
>
> My work got done joyously, no one gots their balls cut off.
Who would pay you for unmaintanable code?

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#4557 — Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
SubjectRe: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.
Message-ID<irpvcsF2kj7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4546
On 10/01/2021 02:51 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> Good programming requires sticking to the essentials. If it can be done
> with an "if" statement never do it in any other way. If it can be done
> with a simple loop, never do it by a recursive function. Stick to the
> essentials and write it for others not for yourself when you're doing it
> as a job. It belongs to the company that pays you, not to you. It is for
> others to use. So as a person you have to meet certain criteria to be
> able to do it right. It isn't just the ability to code.

But tail recursion is kool or at least kooler than recursion.

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#4571 — Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
SubjectRe: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.
Message-ID<sj96hf$akt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4557
On 02/10/2021 03:44, rbowman wrote:
> On 10/01/2021 02:51 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> Good programming requires sticking to the essentials. If it can be done
>> with an "if" statement never do it in any other way. If it can be done
>> with a simple loop, never do it by a recursive function. Stick to the
>> essentials and write it for others not for yourself when you're doing it
>> as a job. It belongs to the company that pays you, not to you. It is for
>> others to use. So as a person you have to meet certain criteria to be
>> able to do it right. It isn't just the ability to code.
> 
> But tail recursion is kool or at least kooler than recursion.
> 
I wrote a marvellous maze generation  algorithm that called itself again 
and again until it had filled every square with a passage or a wall.

And a multi level kitting analyser that allowed you to crate assemblies 
of sub assemblies of sub sub assemblies and so on. That called itself 
again and again until very level had been analysed.

The problem of people creating sub assembles of parts containing 
themselves (Russells paradox) was prevented by as popup  sayin 'you cant 
do that!')

I LOVE recursion.

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#4607 — Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
SubjectRe: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.
Message-ID<irro9aFd6h9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4571
On 10/02/2021 02:50 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 02/10/2021 03:44, rbowman wrote:
>> On 10/01/2021 02:51 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>> Good programming requires sticking to the essentials. If it can be done
>>> with an "if" statement never do it in any other way. If it can be done
>>> with a simple loop, never do it by a recursive function. Stick to the
>>> essentials and write it for others not for yourself when you're doing it
>>> as a job. It belongs to the company that pays you, not to you. It is for
>>> others to use. So as a person you have to meet certain criteria to be
>>> able to do it right. It isn't just the ability to code.
>>
>> But tail recursion is kool or at least kooler than recursion.
>>
> I wrote a marvellous maze generation  algorithm that called itself again
> and again until it had filled every square with a passage or a wall.
>
> And a multi level kitting analyser that allowed you to crate assemblies
> of sub assemblies of sub sub assemblies and so on. That called itself
> again and again until very level had been analysed.
>
> The problem of people creating sub assembles of parts containing
> themselves (Russells paradox) was prevented by as popup  sayin 'you cant
> do that!')
>
> I LOVE recursion.
>

It has its place. We use ONC RPC/XDR. More technological debt since we 
powered down the last big-endian machine about 10 years ago.

Anyway, it works so it's nothing we gave a lot of thought until 
mysterious crashes started occurring.  Seem the internals are highly 
recursive when it's unraveling data and it was blowing the stack out.

Luckily editbin allows you to increase the allowable stack size of an 
executable so we bumped it up.

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#4612 — Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
SubjectRecursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--0.15pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#4607
> Luckily, editbin allows you to increase the allowable stack size
> of an executable so we bumped it up.

Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations.

My "diff" ( file comparison ) routines are _notionally_ recursive;
if they were _actually_ recursive, they'd be too slow.

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG

"Longest Common Subsequence" pseudocode:

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/longest-common-subsequence-dp-4/

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#4634 — Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations.

FromBranimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com>
Date2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
SubjectRe: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations.
Message-ID<TL76J.132115$F26.111366@fx44.iad>
In reply to#4612
On 2021-10-02, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote:
>> Luckily, editbin allows you to increase the allowable stack size
>> of an executable so we bumped it up.
>
> Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations.
>
> My "diff" ( file comparison ) routines are _notionally_ recursive;
> if they were _actually_ recursive, they'd be too slow.
>
> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
>
> "Longest Common Subsequence" pseudocode:
>
> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/longest-common-subsequence-dp-4/
Recursion is fast when ju do jmp instead of call...

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#4624 — Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
SubjectRe: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.
Message-ID<sjamr9$r9g$1@solani.org>
In reply to#4557
On 10/1/2021 9:44 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On 10/01/2021 02:51 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> Good programming requires sticking to the essentials. If it can be done
>> with an "if" statement never do it in any other way. If it can be done
>> with a simple loop, never do it by a recursive function. Stick to the
>> essentials and write it for others not for yourself when you're doing it
>> as a job. It belongs to the company that pays you, not to you. It is for
>> others to use. So as a person you have to meet certain criteria to be
>> able to do it right. It isn't just the ability to code.
> 
> But tail recursion is kool or at least kooler than recursion.
> 


Kool for sure, but perhaps confusing a bit for some secretaries compared 
to a simple loop using appropriate increments.

And among all those various forms of loops themselves, I always stick to 
the "for" loop. I don't remember needing to use any other forms of 
looping in C++. But they're always there in programming books of any 
program, I don't know why.

I see the same issue in cars. 1000 different forms of an alternator! All 
doing the same thing...

Why not all cars using just same alternator so a lot of bullshit get cut?

I mean if you want to be special and show off displaying what you can 
buy and use to others, do it; but how can one show off with his car's 
alternator?

The fucking "engineers" brought all that shit into programming 
languages. Unnecessary crap.

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#4644 — Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
SubjectRe: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++.
Message-ID<irsomsFiugoU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#4624
On 10/02/2021 04:35 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> And among all those various forms of loops themselves, I always stick to
> the "for" loop. I don't remember needing to use any other forms of
> looping in C++. But they're always there in programming books of any
> program, I don't know why.

do/while is handy if you want the block to execute at least once as 
opposed to a while loop. for loops are fine if you're iterating something.

Then there's the Javascript forEach...   I recently had an situation 
where in TypeScript where with a for loop cat = cats[i] wouldn't pick up 
the cat structure but cats.forEach(cat => would. The catch is when you 
find the Siamese cat you can't break out of the loop, you have to 
iterate every damn cat. Or you can throw an exception but that's 
considered in poor taste.



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