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| Started by | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2021-09-27 07:52 -0500 |
| Last post | 2021-09-28 05:21 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 303 — 19 participants |
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Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 07:52 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-09-27 13:18 +0000
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 08:32 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:40 -0400
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 15:01 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 11:17 -0400
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:55 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:57 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-09-27 07:36 -0700
Re: Linux Crashing "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-09-27 20:42 +0200
Re: Linux Crashing Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-09-27 12:59 -0700
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:49 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:20 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 08:24 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:49 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 09:09 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-27 20:21 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 23:30 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 13:01 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:34 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 19:31 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 15:55 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 21:53 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 04:08 +0000
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 22:54 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 01:59 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 06:31 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:13 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:15 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:34 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 21:10 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 23:16 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:20 -0600
BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 07:38 -0700
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:33 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:35 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:13 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:26 +0000
I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 06:36 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:23 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-30 09:33 -0500
Dilbert.COM Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 07:47 -0700
Re: Dilbert.COM RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-30 11:21 -0400
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:40 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-01 06:19 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 12:51 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 08:05 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:18 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:20 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 02:24 +0000
I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 09:46 -0700
Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:11 -0600
Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:26 +0100
Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 10:54 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:32 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:51 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:06 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 16:28 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 21:09 -0600
## is a godsend. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 21:29 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 01:52 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 10:56 +0000
"z1.CPP" ain't no "Dilbert.COM".OopsOops Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 08:57 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 12:59 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:31 -0600
Improving "z1.CPP" is a pure joy. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:24 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
Re: ## is a godsend. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:35 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:15 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 11:11 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:43 +0000
"Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:48 -0700
Re: "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:21 -0600
How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:40 -0700
Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 00:44 +0100
Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:42 -0500
Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:36 +0000
The Covid cult liberated me from my shackles. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 09:18 -0700
Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:32 +0000
Re: "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:56 -0400
My code was forked. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 12:03 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:18 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 00:46 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:34 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:28 +0000
No one here cares about what my code actually *does*. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 20:27 -0700
Re: No one here cares about what my code actually *does*. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 10:40 +0100
One huge routine. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:17 -0700
Re: One huge routine. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000
Max sucks dicks. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 10:04 -0700
Re: Max sucks dicks. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:27 +0000
Re: One huge routine. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:27 -0600
Re: One huge routine. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:30 +0000
Re: One huge routine. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 15:30 -0500
Macros & Muscle Memory keep it simple. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 13:47 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-01 16:15 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 16:55 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:00 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 13:04 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:43 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:35 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 08:09 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 12:42 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 21:15 -0600
Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 21:36 -0700
Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 05:04 +0000
Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-02 06:44 -0500
Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:05 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:03 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:07 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 08:56 +0100
"Permies" aren't script kiddies. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:10 -0700
Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:29 +0100
People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:40 -0700
Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000
Cheating. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:55 -0700
Re: Cheating. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-02 13:30 -0500
Your "Up" is my "Down". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:45 -0700
Re: Cheating. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-02 15:32 -0400
Re: Cheating. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-02 14:43 -0500
Me, my daughter, and my son. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 13:07 -0700
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:50 -0500
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-02 16:51 -0500
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-10-02 15:29 -0700
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:36 +0000
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-02 22:17 -0400
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 03:26 +0100
My kids were born blonde and blue-eyed. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 13:03 -0700
Re: My kids were born blonde and blue-eyed. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:34 +0000
I was blonde, when younger. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 20:21 -0700
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:50 +0000
Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:16 -0500
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:04 -0500
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:11 +0000
Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:31 -0500
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:53 +0000
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:42 -0500
Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 12:08 -0700
Re: Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 -0500
Re: Cheating. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:25 +0000
I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 20:14 -0700
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 23:26 -0500
Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 21:45 -0700
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:51 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:18 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:35 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:10 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:13 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 19:52 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:03 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 20:18 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:32 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 20:39 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Helmut Achterberg <"Helmut Achterberg"@localonly.com> - 2021-10-03 21:21 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:48 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:46 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-03 19:53 -0400
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:33 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:54 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:05 -0500
Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 09:09 -0700
Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:18 -0600
Seattle's not big on tolerance. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 11:38 -0700
Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:18 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:03 -0600
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:46 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:55 -0600
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:50 +0100
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:55 +0000
TFZ is better then Face-To-Face sex. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 09:41 -0700
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 19:01 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:49 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:15 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:01 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 +0000
Life is everything, yet nothing. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 12:17 -0700
Re: Life is everything, yet nothing. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:00 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
4Re: 1I 5think 2in 5FORTH 1& 7progr 2in 6C/C++ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-30 08:12 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 13:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjae1b$vsq$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4591 |
On 10/2/2021 10:09 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2021-10-02, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> When my girlfriend of the time took a COBOL course, it was impressed >> on her that the really important stuff was analysing the business and >> writing the specification for the data structure and the program modules. > > Indeed. Too bad this advice isn't followed more often. In one shop > I actually wrote the programs first, then got the specifications. > I've since heard this approach described as "Ready... Fire... Aim." AHAHAHAH! Ready... FIRE! Oh shit, we forgot to fuc*ing AIM! Oh crap! > >> Pure programmers who just turned specs into COBOL were only one step >> above plant life. > > They're usually called "coders" to distinguish them from people who think. > >> 'Anal Progs' were the next step up. But business analysts were the dog's >> pyjamas. > > One PPOE's payroll system had a 15-character field for job title. > My position of programmer-analyst was truncated to PROGRAMMER-ANAL. > I thought it was appropriate. >
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 11:43 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <irrk16Fcd54U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4564 |
On 10/02/2021 02:00 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 01/10/2021 22:55, Clutterfreak wrote: >> On 10/1/2021 4:15 PM, chrisv wrote: >>> Kooky beyond belief. >> >> >> It carries the touch of his character :) Or he's just playing with >> such stuff. I doubt he could do that as part of his job unless people >> he worked for didn't know anything about computers. >> >> I wrote those Excel programs for a huge Chinese multinational >> electronics and computer company (its U.S. branch). A score of people >> there, mostly Chinese (and a few Malaysians), were expert programmers. >> But my job was in the warehouse and none of those programmers dealt >> with warehouse issues. On the other hand the company didn't want any >> software get direct programmatic access to their database in China >> which served _all_ those companies around the globe. So they wouldn't >> let us use SAP programmatically. >> >> After some push and pull they agreed that I emulate our own warehouse >> (three very large buildings) in Excel and do everything, the whole >> inventory control locally. This meant rewriting at least 10 or 15 >> different SAP programs from scratch in VBA! It was crazy and felt like >> abuse and torture but they offered me in return very good pay, and >> they sure benefited from that decision immensely, certainly seen in >> our own branch but by all probability utilizing them in every other >> branch in the world as well. >> >> What I had at my disposal were smart secretaries, not programmers. >> They were the ones to use them and even modify them later. So a >> "Jeff-Relff" style would get a kick in the ass by plant manager before >> first week of it was over. He'd be history. >> >> > When my girlfriend of the time took a COBOL course, it was impressed on > her that the really important stuff was analysing the business and > writing the specification for the data structure and the program modules. > > Pure programmers who just turned specs into COBOL were only one step > above plant life. > > 'Anal Progs' were the next step up. But business analysts were the dog's > pyjamas. > > I remember all those gradations in big enterprises. I just call myself a programmer unless I'm dealing with a third party. It's like when my brother became VP of a large aerospace company. He said it was no big deal but the people he had to interact with were impressed if they were talking to a VP.
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-03 21:35 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjdpa5$shn$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4564 |
On 10/2/2021 3:00 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > When my girlfriend of the time took a COBOL course, it was impressed on > her that the really important stuff was analysing the business and > writing the specification for the data structure and the program modules. > > Pure programmers who just turned specs into COBOL were only one step > above plant life. > > 'Anal Progs' were the next step up. But business analysts were the dog's > pyjamas. Hasn't that practice become obsolete these days? What an established business needs is just to use SAP. Every conceivable (general) need for a business is handled in that group of software. I only know it is expensive, but I doubt that if just the right features in it are turned on it would cost the business more than hiring various specialists doing such analyses manually. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-04 08:09 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <is0g8fFac1aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4715 |
On 10/03/2021 08:35 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: > On 10/2/2021 3:00 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> When my girlfriend of the time took a COBOL course, it was impressed >> on her that the really important stuff was analysing the business and >> writing the specification for the data structure and the program >> modules. >> >> Pure programmers who just turned specs into COBOL were only one step >> above plant life. >> >> 'Anal Progs' were the next step up. But business analysts were the >> dog's pyjamas. > > > Hasn't that practice become obsolete these days? What an established > business needs is just to use SAP. Every conceivable (general) need for > a business is handled in that group of software. I only know it is > expensive, but I doubt that if just the right features in it are turned > on it would cost the business more than hiring various specialists doing > such analyses manually. > Yeah, now we have agile full stack programmers versus top down structured programming. I've seen methodologies come, go, and come again over the last 50 years. My takeaway is some people can program, some can't. I was agile before agile was cool. It came from realizing most people stating the requirements don't have a clue what they really want. Cobble together a prototype and listen to the complaints. Rinse and repeat. Back in the top down days people would spend months if not years developing the design. If it was found to be impossible to implement or didn't perform, too bad. There was so much involvement by various pointy haired bosses at that point that you would do what was designed.
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-04 12:42 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjfeda$aj7$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4729 |
On 10/4/2021 9:09 AM, rbowman wrote: > On 10/03/2021 08:35 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: >> On 10/2/2021 3:00 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> When my girlfriend of the time took a COBOL course, it was impressed >>> on her that the really important stuff was analysing the business and >>> writing the specification for the data structure and the program >>> modules. >>> >>> Pure programmers who just turned specs into COBOL were only one step >>> above plant life. >>> >>> 'Anal Progs' were the next step up. But business analysts were the >>> dog's pyjamas. >> >> >> Hasn't that practice become obsolete these days? What an established >> business needs is just to use SAP. Every conceivable (general) need for >> a business is handled in that group of software. I only know it is >> expensive, but I doubt that if just the right features in it are turned >> on it would cost the business more than hiring various specialists doing >> such analyses manually. >> > > Yeah, now we have agile full stack programmers versus top down > structured programming. I've seen methodologies come, go, and come > again over the last 50 years. My takeaway is some people can program, > some can't. > > I was agile before agile was cool. It came from realizing most people > stating the requirements don't have a clue what they really want. Cobble > together a prototype and listen to the complaints. Rinse and repeat. > > Back in the top down days people would spend months if not years > developing the design. If it was found to be impossible to implement or > didn't perform, too bad. There was so much involvement by various pointy > haired bosses at that point that you would do what was designed. > > It makes a lot of sense. For situations specific to a company of course ground up approach is the best (the only way indeed). It has to be done in quick, configurable, and simple enough steps so software would constantly test the waters while growing. But for cases that's general to _any_ company with warehouse, like payroll, inventory control, nowadays immunization and health, etc work is already done at the best possible level in SAP. It doesn't cover all situations but certainly covers all the general needs of any company. Cheap! Compared to doing it manually. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-01 21:15 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <irq16uF2u37U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4548 |
On 10/01/2021 03:15 PM, chrisv wrote: > You're the opposite of Relf. You see, his goal is writing "compact" > code. That includes liberal use of macros, and even the elimination > of "white space". As any of that makes the code anything more than > superficially "compact". Readability by others counts for nothing. > Kooky beyond belief. Happiness is Javascript or css files that have been minimized. You don't need whitespace and removing it all makes for a smaller download to a browser. If you ever run into that: https://mrcoles.com/blog/css-unminify/
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2021-10-01 21:36 -0700 |
| Subject | Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.1--9.36pm.Seattle.2021> |
| In reply to | #4559 |
Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Although it can & has been done, others find it difficult to modify my code... Duh ! To them I say: ReWrite it yourself, all of it.
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| From | Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 05:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. |
| Message-ID | <OLR5J.37384$6u6.31372@fx03.iad> |
| In reply to | #4561 |
On 2021-10-02, Jeff-Relf.Me @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote: > Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. > > Although it can & has been done, > others find it difficult to modify my code... Duh ! > > To them I say: ReWrite it yourself, all of it. Who cares what you say? -- 7-77-777 Evil Sinner!
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 06:44 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. |
| Message-ID | <0chglgp36go2japukoagujve3jjb5hnmek@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #4562 |
Branimir Maksimovic wrote: > Jeff-Relf wrote: >> >> Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. >> >> Although it can & has been done, >> others find it difficult to modify my code... Duh ! >> >> To them I say: ReWrite it yourself, all of it. > >Who cares what you say? LOL +1 -- "The middle 32 characters look very random - but it looks like you stop at the letter 'f'. * why stop at letter f?" - DumFSck, putting his ignorance on display
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 09:05 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. |
| Message-ID | <sj93si$pm1$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4561 |
On 02/10/2021 05:36, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_.
>
> Although it can & has been done,
> others find it difficult to modify my code... Duh !
>
> To them I say: ReWrite it yourself, all of it.
>
As I said. Making sure you have a job.
Those of us who were always in demand, wrote code once, well, and
clearly enough so that someone else could have the fag of maintaining it.
--
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and
higher education positively fortifies it."
- Stephen Vizinczey
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 09:03 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sj93or$pm1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4559 |
On 02/10/2021 04:15, rbowman wrote: > On 10/01/2021 03:15 PM, chrisv wrote: >> You're the opposite of Relf. You see, his goal is writing "compact" >> code. That includes liberal use of macros, and even the elimination >> of "white space". As any of that makes the code anything more than >> superficially "compact". Readability by others counts for nothing. >> Kooky beyond belief. > > Happiness is Javascript or css files that have been minimized. You don't > need whitespace and removing it all makes for a smaller download to a > browser. > Not if you are compressing the HTML What makes for a smaller download to a browser is ensuring that everything that can be cached is cached. That nothing on your site calls other sites. That javascript is kept to the absolute minimum. That your images are no larger than displayed. > If you ever run into that: > > https://mrcoles.com/blog/css-unminify/ > > LOL! -- Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? Josef Stalin
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 12:07 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <irrlfaFcldlU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4565 |
On 10/02/2021 02:03 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > That nothing on your site calls other sites. > That javascript is kept to the absolute minimum. If you're doing Angular it's pretty much all Javascript (or TypeScript before transpiling). There ain't no there there. The Angular webpack for production builds uses Terser to really obfuscate things. https://terser.org/ It's a different game today than when you just served up a html page with a little Javascript glue. For example I'm currently working on a map component. It's all client side. To position landmarks I'm pulling in GeoJSON, creating the graphic and positioning it on the appropriate layer in Javascript. The alternate would be developing a back end Web Feature Service and loading the layer, again from the client side.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 08:56 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sj93an$ms1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4548 |
On 01/10/2021 22:15, chrisv wrote: > Clutterfreak wrote: >> Good programming requires sticking to the essentials. If it can be done >> with an "if" statement never do it in any other way. If it can be done >> with a simple loop, never do it by a recursive function. Stick to the >> essentials and write it for others not for yourself when you're doing it >> as a job. It belongs to the company that pays you, not to you. It is for >> others to use. So as a person you have to meet certain criteria to be >> able to do it right. It isn't just the ability to code. > > You're the opposite of Relf. You see, his goal is writing "compact" > code. That includes liberal use of macros, and even the elimination > of "white space". As any of that makes the code anything more than > superficially "compact". Readability by others counts for nothing. > Kooky beyond belief. > I suspect Relf was what we called a 'permie' No subcontract software engineer could get away with writing code the boss couldn't understand Permies deliberately wrote code no one else could maintain to preserve their jobs. I did hear of one who as a horse racing fanatic, got sacked once though, when for the fourth year running the code he had written for a customer in the town where they had the most prestigious horse race, fell over two days before the race...again... -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 09:10 -0700 |
| Subject | "Permies" aren't script kiddies. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--9.10am.Seattle.2021> |
| In reply to | #4563 |
"Permies" ( i.e. people keep their jobs for 30 years instead of 30 minutes ) write _complex_ code -- we aren't script kiddies. > [ the complex app ] fell over two days before the race...again... That's why we have a multitude of experts & testers.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 17:29 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. |
| Message-ID | <sja1dm$4p5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4577 |
On 02/10/2021 17:10, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > "Permies" ( i.e. people keep their jobs for 30 years instead of 30 minutes ) > write _complex_ code -- we aren't script kiddies. > >> [ the complex app ] fell over two days before the race...again... > > That's why we have a multitude of experts & testers. > No, silly boy, it isnt. He had deliberately made sure it worked *perfectly*, except on certain days of the year. No tester would have picked it up. But I am sure that his code was as obfuscated as yours, and no one had the time to puzzle out what it actually meant. Once he was sacked, they rewrote everything he had ever touched. -- “But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an hypothesis!” Mary Wollstonecraft
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 09:40 -0700 |
| Subject | People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--9.40am.Seattle.2021> |
| In reply to | #4580 |
He _intentionally_ tossed the game. Of course he was fired, he was cheating. People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating.
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| From | Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. |
| Message-ID | <W006J.22516$d82.11725@fx21.iad> |
| In reply to | #4581 |
On 2021-10-02, Jeff-Relf.Me @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote: > He _intentionally_ tossed the game. > > Of course he was fired, he was cheating. > > People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Cheating YOUR WIFE?! -- 7-77-777 Evil Sinner! to weak you should be meek, and you should brainfuck stronger https://github.com/rofl0r/chaos-pp
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 09:55 -0700 |
| Subject | Cheating. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--9.55am.Seattle.2021> |
| In reply to | #4584 |
You (Max) replied ( to me ): > > People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. > > Cheating on MY WIFE ?! The mother of my children cheated on me; after about 6 months of total cluelessness, I was informed that she was divorcing me. To be fair, I respect her decision; her new man was a better fit for her.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 13:30 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cheating. |
| Message-ID | <789hlg507oeuflb08fqbkcqk56af728d74@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #4586 |
Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote: >You (Max) replied ( to me ): >> > People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. >> >> Cheating on MY WIFE ?! > >The mother of my children cheated on me; >after about 6 months of total cluelessness, >I was informed that she was divorcing me. > >To be fair, I respect her decision; >her new man was a better fit for her. No where to go but up! 8) -- "there are too many choices in some categories of computer hardware" - Dumfsck, putting his ignorance on display
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 11:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Your "Up" is my "Down". |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.2--11.45am.Seattle.2021> |
| In reply to | #4601 |
You (ChrisV) replied ( to me ): > > To be fair, I respect her decision; > > her new man was a better fit for her. > > No where to go but up! 8) Your "Up" is my "Down".
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