NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux?

From	🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.setup
Subject	NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux?
Date	2025-09-14 21:59 +0200
Message-ID	<miol5qF3lm0U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)

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Hello!

Today (2025-09-14, sun.) I wrote in Polish my "18. Raport Totaliztyczny
- Dlaczego Używam Kubuntu a Nie Gentoo Linuks?" this title in raw
translation mean: "18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead
Gentoo Linux?". This report, also today, I published on my WWW site:

<https://energokod.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/18.%20Dlaczego%20U%C5%BCywam%20Kubuntu%20a%20Nie%20Gentoo%20Linuks.pdf>

And it can be downloaded entirely for free (as free beer). For English
readers I translate (using AI, with my corrections of the final text)
the summary of this report in order to give you advice what you can tell
to our dear friend "Farley Flud <ff@linux.rokks>" about "advantages" of
using Gentoo Linux distro. This translated to English report summary I
published exclusively on the Usenet groups.

7 Summary

7.1 Revelations, advantages, disadvantages and fuck ups in the Gentoo
Linux project

7.1.1 Revelations:
1. Complete control over the operating system thanks to the Flag Use
mechanism;
2. Latest packages;
3. Binary packages (originally there were no binary packages in Gentoo
Linux, which is a distribution based on source packages, i.e. requiring
compilation before installation).

7.1.2 Advantages:
1. Despite the shortcomings in the "Gentoo Handbook" textbook, this
system can be installed and running;
2. From "Gentoo Handbook" I learned that in each Linux operating system
there should be environmental variables with compilation flags: CFLAGS,
CXXFLAGS, MAKEOPTS (in Kubuntu it is a variable MAKE), DMDFLAGS and
RUSTFLAGS. After returning to Kubuntu, I set them in a $ Home/.profile
file. For me, these flags are useful to the compilation of my own
programs, which of course I compile from sources.

7.1.3 Disadvantages:
1. No digital signatures of binary packages.

7.1.4 Fuck ups:
1. Continuous distribution. Causes that you still need to adapt your own
program and scripts to changes in the operating system;
2. It is not known how to get sound in unprivileged (user space) programs;
3. VLC package broken for years;
4. Limited use of binary packages mechanism;
5. Malicious configuration of binary packages (e.g. they require adding
to the USE Flag QML or telemetry);
6. Lack of the central list of Flag Use: it causes that you can not
simply configure everything right away, but as you want to install new
packages;
7. There are many USE flags for individual packages. In my opinion, this
is contrary to the USE flag concept. It seems to me that USE flags
should be divided into system (global) and program (i.e. those
characteristic of a given program). Now they are completely mixed (at
least they were mixed in my /etc/portage/make.conf file);
8. Distro Gentoo Linux carers do not reveal what the costs of
maintaining this project are, and thus users do not know how much they
should pay in their donations for using this operational system. Sadly
the same is true for Kubutnu distro provided by Canonical Corpo.

7.2 Applications
I installed Gentoo Linux due to strong agitation on the group
comp.os.linux.advocacy led by "Farley Flud <ff@linux.rokks>". However, I
was not able to achieve such the functionality of this operating system
as in the case of Kubuntu 20.04. In addition, many hours of compilations
is in fact backwardness because the user is working with Gentoo Linux
more slowly, instead of faster and faster. The decisive factor for me
was the lack of a way to start the sound in utility programs, and the
VLC package broken for years. Unable to accept this, I returned to the
Kubuntu 20.04 operating system and only now I appreciate how fast,
comfortable and useful it is.

7.3 Is the problem organizational or individual?
Pathologies in the Gentoo Linux project are organizational.

7.4 Is the problem durable or temporary?
There have been problems for years.

7.5 Future predictions
Nothing will change in the Gentoo Linux project. It will exist as long
as bankers will finance it.

7.6 Recommendations for now
For users of the Linux operating system: My conclusions are that the
best are Linux distro are that based on releases (and not continuous
like Gentoo Linux) in LTS version (in English Long-Term support). This
is obviously due to the fact that in such a Distro my programs and
scripts work for many years without the need to adapt them to the new
version of the operating system. Distro appearing in the LTS version is
e.g. Ubuntu or Kubuntu. I have been using Kubuntu on 20.04 for years and
I can say that, contrary to the propaganda, "Farley Flud
<ff@linux.rocks>" I am not a fierce clicker or admirer of rounded
corners of the windows - I create my own programs and scripts, including
scripts with which I configure the entire operating system after
installation. In fact, I think that before "Farley Flud
<ff@linux.rokks>" installs the program he needs, I will be after work
and after dinner, at the dessert. This is what it looks like today,
2025-09-14, sun.

7.7 Recommendations for the future
For Distro Linux Gento maintainers: Without getting along with the
founder of this distro, Daniel Robbins, you don't have a chance to get
aware of and go straight. This is the result of your smart takeover of
this project, instead of a desire to discuss factual, i.e. for honest
and impartial resolution of technical disputes regarding the future of
this distro. In short, if you do not fix the evil that you have done to
Mr. Daniel Robbins, you will not achieve anything more and you will
continue to boat in your head as it is now. Because a hostile
acquisition is a violation of moral rights (brotherhood and honesty
mentioned above), and they have priority over all other laws.

For users of the Linux operating system: reading https://distrowatch.com
should be enough to know what appears new in Linux distributions. Note:
Don't forget to give them a few dollars from time to time for these
publications! Because there are very few good info sources on Linux topics.

--
Have a nice day!
Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, PL🇵🇱, EU🇪🇺;
tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55;
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  Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-09-14 23:27 +0000
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