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Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux?

From 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.setup
Subject Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux?
Date 2025-09-22 17:13 +0200
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I correct my "18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo 
Linux?", I translate report summary again, and invite Daniel Robbins and 
Gentoo Linux maintainers to this discussion.

7 Summary

7.1 Revelations, advantages, disadvantages and fuck-ups in the Gentoo 
Linux project

7.1.1 Revelations
1. Complete control over the operating system thanks to the Flag Use 
mechanism;
2. Latest packages;
3. Binary packages (originally there were no binary packages in Gentoo 
Linux, which is a distribution based on source packages, and requiring 
compilation before installation).

7.1.2 Advantages
1. Despite the deficiencies in the "Gentoo Handbook" textbook, this 
system can be installed and fired;
2. From "Gentoo Handbook" I learned that in each Linux operating system 
there should be environmental variables with compilation flags: CFLAGS, 
CXXFLAGS, MAKEOPTS (in Kubuntu it is a variable MAKE), DMDFLAGS and 
RUSTFLAGS. After returning to Kubuntu, I set them in a $ Home/.profile 
file. For me, these flags are useful to the compilation of my own 
libraries and programs, which of course I compile from sources.

7.1.3 Disadvantages
1. No digital signatures of binary packages.

7.1.4 Fuck-ups
1. An incomplete Gentoo Handbook (no mention I need to unpack Stage 3 
archive to /mnt/gentoo when I install from other Linux host; given at a 
bad time (in the middle of the installation) the recommendation to 
recompile the newly installed Gentoo Linux (because user set it's own 
USE flags); omitting the sound configuration);

2. Continuous distribution. Causes that you still need to adapt my own 
libraries, programs and scripts to changes in the operating system;

3. It is not known how to get sound in window utility programs;

4. VLC package broken for years;

5. Limited use of binary packages mechanism;

6. Malicious configuration of binary packages (e.g. sometimes they are 
only configured with the "qml" or "telemetry" USE flags);

7. Compilation of scripting apps such as Firefox or Thunderbird does not 
improve their speed (they continue to moor);

8. Thunderbird, although it implements only a few protocols (e-mail and 
discussion groups), but requires its own HTML browser engine for its 
operation, which is why it compiles for hours, instead of in a seconds. 
It must be the same with other script apps based on your own inner HTML 
browser;

9. Distro Gentoo Linux maintainers do not reveal what are the costs of 
maintaining this project, and thus users do not know how much they 
should pay in the donations for using this operating system. The same, 
unfortunately, applies to Kubuntu supplied by corpo Canonical (and many 
other Linux distros).

7.2 Applications
I installed Gentoo Linux due to strong agitation on the group 
comp.os.linux.advocacy led by "Farley Flud <ff@linux.rokks>". However, I 
was not able to achieve the functionality of this operating system as in 
the case of Kubuntu 20.04. In addition, many hours of compilations is in 
fact backwardness because the user is working with Gentoo Linux more 
slowly, instead of faster and faster. The decisive problem for me was 
the lack of a way to start the sound in window programs, and the VLC 
package broken for years. Unable to accept this, I returned to the 
Kubuntu 20.04 operating system and now I appreciate how fast, 
comfortable and useful it is.

7.3 Is the problem organizational or individual?
Pathologies in the Gentoo Linux project are organizational.

7.4 Is the problem durable or temporary?
There have been problems for years.

7.5 Future predictions
Nothing will change in the Gentoo Linux project. It will exist as long 
as bankers will finance it.

7.6 Recommendations for now
For users of the Linux operating system: My conclusions are that the 
best are Linux distros based on editions (and not continuous like Gentoo 
Linux), in the LTS version (English acronym: Long-Term Support). This is 
obviously due to the fact that in such a disto my libraries, programs 
and scripts operate for many years without having to adapt them to the 
new version of the operating system. Distros appearing in the LTS 
version is e.g. Ubuntu or Kubuntu. I have been using Kubuntu 20.04 LTS 
for years and I can say that, contrary to the propaganda, "Farley flud 
<ff@linux.rocks>" I am not a fierce click or a devotee of rounded 
corners of the windows - I create my own libraries, programs and 
scripts, including the scripts which I configure the entire operating 
system. In fact, I think that before "Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>" will 
install the program he needed, I will be after work and after dinner, at 
the dessert. This is what it looks like today, 2025-09-14, no.

7.7 Recommendations for the future
For Distro Linux Gentoo maintainers: Without getting along with the 
founder of this Distro, Daniel Robbins, you have no chance to seek and 
go straight. This is the result of your smart takeover of this project, 
instead of a desire to discuss factual, i.e. for honest and impartial 
resolution of technical disputes regarding the future of this distro. In 
short, if you do not fix the evil that you have done to Mr. Daniel 
Robbins, you will not achieve anything more and you will continue to 
boat in your head as it is now. Because a hostile acquisition is a 
violation of moral rights (mentioned above indicators brotherhood, 
personal culture, economic culture and honesty). It should be recalled 
that moral laws have priority over all other laws (include physical 
laws, and economics laws, and human federal and local laws).
For Linux users: Reading https://distrowatch.com should be enough to 
know what's new in Linux distributions. Note: Don't forget to give them 
a few dollars for these publications from time to time! Because there 
are very few good info sources on Linux topics.

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NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-14 21:59 +0200
  Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-09-14 23:27 +0000
    Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-14 20:08 -0400
    Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-15 05:50 +0200
      Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-15 10:12 +0200
  Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-15 01:45 +0200
    Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-09-15 00:01 +0000
      Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-15 00:39 +0000
        Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-09-15 00:52 +0000
          Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-15 01:24 +0000
  Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-15 10:11 +0200
  Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-15 11:20 +0000
    Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-15 15:16 +0200
      Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-15 14:04 +0000
        Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-15 14:28 +0000
  Re: NEW: 18. Totaliztic Report - Why I use Kubutnu instead Gentoo Linux? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-22 17:13 +0200

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