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Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE

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First post2023-01-31 21:42 +0000
Last post2023-02-06 14:00 -0800
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  Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2023-01-31 21:42 +0000
    Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> - 2023-02-01 08:03 +0100
      Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2023-02-01 17:19 +0000
    Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2023-02-01 10:35 -0800
      Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2023-02-03 21:45 +0000
        Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-03 18:39 -0500
          Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2023-02-04 14:34 +0200
            Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-04 18:06 -0500
              Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2023-02-04 20:34 -0800
                Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-05 21:10 -0500
              Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-05 08:34 +0000
                Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-05 21:12 -0500
                  Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-06 04:34 +0000
                    Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-06 01:19 -0500
                      Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-06 18:18 +0000
                        Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-07 00:13 -0500
                    Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-09 00:18 -0500
                      Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-02-09 17:06 +1000
                        Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-09 10:08 -0500
                      Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-09 11:31 +0000
                        Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-09 10:10 -0500
                      Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-11 02:39 -0500
    Re: Gparted - Vostro Legacy/UEFI/IDE Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2023-02-06 14:00 -0800

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#36975

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2023-02-09 10:10 -0500
Message-ID<87bkm2c1t5.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#36973
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 11:31:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> On 09/02/2023 05:18, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> The program I want to run is a game which needs at least Windows 8.
>
> Does it require fast graphics? That is the one thing that is not great
> on virtual machines..

Game I'm looking for to get running is Serious Sam 4. As I only see now
it requires Windows 10 (not just Windows 8 as I recalled). Suppose it
needs a decent graphic card. Something I also didn't think about, as my
computer is already 10 years old.
-- 
Andreas

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#37008

From"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net>
Date2023-02-11 02:39 -0500
Message-ID<VY-dnfqQGpDN23r-nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#36969
On 2/9/23 12:18 AM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Feb 2023 04:34:50 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>> On 2023-02-06, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Only 8 GB here. Also had trouble trying to get Qemu working (some errors
>>> with devices it couldn't find on initial launch).
>>>
>>> May be I'll try VirtualBox at some point.
> 
> May the I have not activated the VM option in the BIOS (I didn't even
> know something like this exists). Will have to check next time I reboot.
> 
> Or can it be checked on a running Linux? May be with inxi?\\

   SOME utilities will tell you, I think inxi will if you
   use the correct flags. However just BOOT the computer
   and F2 or whatever to the BIOS screen. Somewhere in there
   there will be an option for turning on hardware VM. Not
   all Intel chips HAVE it however.

   Anyway, it considerably speeds up yer VMs. QEMU is
   basically a SOFTWARE solution and is notably slower
   than hardware-assisted solutions.

   Anytime I buy a board/chip I do look for inbuilt
   VM capability. May never use it, but it's good to
   know it's there.

   KVM *can* do almost anything VirtualBox can do - but
   it's a lot klunkier - some manual editing of config
   files is often needed and expanding virtual diskspace
   is a two or three step manual process. Xen isn't any
   better. KVM also installs a tweaked kernel which may
   or may not be compatible with what you're doing. So,
   for most users, I'd strongly suggest VirtualBox - but
   you DO need to install that 'accessory' stuff so you
   can get at the hardware and storage better.

   SOME users, usually corps, go whole-hawg on virtual
   machines. Their money people say "why buy multiple
   boxes ?" and it SOUNDS sane. So, they buy ONE good
   box and VMWare and put *everything* on there. Then
   the board burns out ....

   NEVER let the penny-counters make technical recs !
   They do NOT have a clue. Anyplace that starts
   catering to them - QUIT ! - it's DOOMED.

   Boxes, even now, are relatively cheap. Buy several and
   dedicate. Then *everything* won't die if the Magic
   Smoke escapes.

   Note the Gen-12 hexcore i5's are faster than the
   gen-7/8 i7's of recent yesteryear - and a LOT
   cheaper than the new i7s. For "servers" you may
   not NEED today's i7/i9/Xeon power/price. An easy
   way to save lotsa money. File servers, software-based
   routers, DBs and such are generally I/O limited ...
   ie it doesn't matter HOW fast the CHIP is, the
   networking and/or 'disks' define the real-world
   performance.

   BIG Biz, with hundreds of users AND some VMs,
   maybe one of the good Xeon's are worth it ...
   maybe. Do the math. Oh, just PRICE a dual-Xeon
   64-core board/chip these days - SuperMicro
   has one of those "Let us give you a quote"
   things, same with IBM blades  :-)

>> If you don't have to be bleeding-edge, try my solution:
>> I run XP under VirtualBox, and it runs fine with 512MB of memory.
> 
> The program I want to run is a game which needs at least Windows 8.

   I often deal with "devices" that insist on Win-compat plugins
   for their interface/setup. Almost all will still work with XP.
   So, an XP-VM takes care of it. Then I turn it off.

   As for games ... WINE really *might* take care of it. DO search
   online for the EXACT set of params to feed WINE however (and
   there are a LOT of possibilities there). WINE can be the
   easiest solution sometimes. VMs are 'cleaner', but a bit less
   convenient.

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#36938

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com>
Date2023-02-06 14:00 -0800
Message-ID<trrtat$37nvk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#36854
On 1/31/23 13:42, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> It seems all three of my problems may be from this setting
> 
> I made all 500GB (HD) into an NTFS partition
> (GParted was too fast in formatting - worried)
> bash fsck instead of fdisk worked fine - no errors
> the check disk in gparted menu didn't complain either

	The problem is that you worked too fast.
	GPartEd has two version of the NTFS.
	You might try the other one.  But read on.
> 
> But trying to install XP finds some CHKDSK error
> (tells me to chkdsk - gives me four hex numbers)
> But Windows Setup loads all the drivers and
> only blows when trying to start Windows itself
	
	What partitioning scheme are you using? the old MS
thing or UEFI.  Windows XP predates that latter system.

> 
> Setting back from Legacy to UEFI gives "check media[failed]" >
> This problem showed up when I moved the Win7 partiton
> (hopefully now gone - deleted partitions, reformatted)

	Since you cannot start Windows at all use the GPartED
to create all your partitions 100 GB is the max I would allocate
to any MS-OS product.
	Might be easier to run Windows XP from a VirtualBox or other
virtual machine system.  Then you would not need to leave space
for it.  There is lots of information about this on the net
and I found some by searching on "running Windows XP on Virtual
box.  There seem to be some videos on doing so.  If I remember
correctly you want to run a DOS as well and there is information
there about that whether you want to run MS-DOS or FreeDOS.
> 
> Also Knoppix (Quantian) can't find the filesystem
> knoppix home=/dev/sda1/knoppix.img won't work either

	Well I don't know which version you are using but
I started with Knoppix 3.1 and current is 9.1 or even 9.2
if it has been released for general use.


> One wierd possibility - I burned the ISOs on DVDs
> Maybe they should be CD?

	They should be Flash Drives if your system can
boot from that.
	You have to turn off the Secure Boot in the BIOS to get
non-MS booting from most Linux systems.  Ubuntu, Red Hat and
others have paid MS for a Key to allow booting on the secure
system but not Knoppix, nor PCLinuxOS.
	DVDs are Ok but very slow.

> 
> I know - my flawed memory (of doing this a decade ago) is confusing me

	Not only that but you have not kept up with the technology
of the Linux systems.

	I  started with Mandriva about 17 years ago and it is now out of
business despite its convenience and ease.  I now use PCLinuxOS which
was/is based on the preceding system Mandrake and which had taken images
from the Mandriva before a bad business model drove it into bankruptcy
which is not uncommon with high tech commercial ventures.

	I dunno if you can see my e-mail address with whatever tool
you are using but I suggest that since you have gotten behind on
the tech that you find a nearby Linux Users Group which might afford
you more timely help than you can find on Usenet.

	Good luck
bliss - “Nearly any fool can use a GNU/Linux computer. Many do.”
  After all here I am...again..

-- 
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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