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  Re: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-03-28 13:19 -0700
    Re: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2020-03-29 03:42 +0000
      Multi-posed spammer [was:  Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT] Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2020-03-29 06:38 +0200
        Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-03-29 08:48 -0700
          Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-03-29 16:08 +0000
            Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT] felix@palmen-it.de (Felix Palmen) - 2020-03-29 18:13 +0200
            Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-03-29 09:37 -0700
            Re: Multi-posed spammer Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2020-03-29 12:56 -0400
              Re: Multi-posed spammer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-03-29 20:52 +0000
                Re: Multi-posed spammer Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-03-29 14:49 -0700
        Re: Multi-posed spammer [was:  Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT] Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2020-03-29 19:23 +0300
          Re: Multi-posed spammer [was:  Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT] Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2020-03-30 02:37 +0200
          Re: Multi-posed spammer [was:  Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT] Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2020-03-31 03:29 +0000
      Re: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT Helmut Waitzmann <nn.throttle@xoxy.net> - 2020-03-30 03:20 +0200
        Re: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-03-30 09:28 -0400

#29459 — Re: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT

On 3/28/20 7:49 PM, xyz91987@gmail.com wrote:
> Protect yourself and your loved ones !
> KILL the coronavirus right now !
> And save LOTS OF CASH
> New tested, scientificly proven and amazing antivirus against coronavirus using Chloroquine and Colchicine
> at very low price (33% discount)
> Satisfaction garanteed or your money back !
> 
> http://als0p.atwebpages.com/coronavirus/coronavirus-en.php
> 
> Protégez-vous et vos proches!
> TUEZ le coronavirus dès maintenant!
> Et économisez BEAUCOUP D'ARGENT
> Nouvel antivirus testé, scientifiquement prouvé et étonnant contre le coronavirus utilisant la Chloroquine et la Colchicine
> à très bas prix (33% de réduction)
> Satisfaction garantie ou agrent remie !
> 
> http://als0p.atwebpages.com/coronavirus/coronavirus-fr.php
> 
	These are deadly drugs and should only be used under a doctor's 
directions.  One man who believed Trump has already died from this sort
of advice from people who have no idea about medicine.

	bliss-retired nurse.

-- 
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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#29466

On 2020-03-28, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> On 3/28/20 7:49 PM, xyz91987@gmail.com wrote:
>> Protect yourself and your loved ones !
>> KILL the coronavirus right now !
>> And save LOTS OF CASH
>> New tested, scientificly proven and amazing antivirus against coronavirus using Chloroquine and Colchicine
>> at very low price (33% discount)
>> Satisfaction garanteed or your money back !
>> 
>> http://als0p.atwebpages.com/coronavirus/coronavirus-en.php
>> 
>> Protégez-vous et vos proches!
>> TUEZ le coronavirus dès maintenant!
>> Et économisez BEAUCOUP D'ARGENT
>> Nouvel antivirus testé, scientifiquement prouvé et étonnant contre le coronavirus utilisant la Chloroquine et la Colchicine
>> à très bas prix (33% de réduction)
>> Satisfaction garantie ou agrent remie !
>> 
>> http://als0p.atwebpages.com/coronavirus/coronavirus-fr.php
>> 
> 	These are deadly drugs and should only be used under a doctor's 
> directions.  One man who believed Trump has already died from this sort
> of advice from people who have no idea about medicine.
>
> 	bliss-retired nurse.

Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups:
Plonk!

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#29468 — Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT]

On 29.03.2020 at 03:42, Robert Riches scribbled:

> Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups:
> Plonk!

It was multi-posted to all 22 of the groups I'm subscribed to. 

Plonking it is useless though, because it's a typical one-time hitter
and you won't see it again unless it nym-shifts in order to spam yet
another fake-information moneymaking scam.

-- 
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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#29471 — Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT]

On 03/28/2020 09:38 PM, Aragorn wrote:
> On 29.03.2020 at 03:42, Robert Riches scribbled:
>
>> Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups:
>> Plonk!
>
> It was multi-posted to all 22 of the groups I'm subscribed to.

More than that.  A single post showing up in long-dead groups was a dead 
giveaway.  Nuisance.

> Plonking it is useless though, because it's a typical one-time hitter
> and you won't see it again unless it nym-shifts in order to spam yet
> another fake-information moneymaking scam.

Just like the old days, right?  Whatever happened to The Spam King?

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   'Politics' comes from an ancient Greek word meaning
   'many blood-sucking leeches.'       -- Mark Russell

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#29472 — Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT]

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/28/2020 09:38 PM, Aragorn wrote:
>> On 29.03.2020 at 03:42, Robert Riches scribbled:
>>
>>> Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups:
>>> Plonk!
>>
>> It was multi-posted to all 22 of the groups I'm subscribed to.
> 
> More than that.  A single post showing up in long-dead groups was a dead 
> giveaway.  Nuisance.
> 
>> Plonking it is useless though, because it's a typical one-time hitter
>> and you won't see it again unless it nym-shifts in order to spam yet
>> another fake-information moneymaking scam.
> 
> Just like the old days, right?  Whatever happened to The Spam King?

Usenet usage dropped significantly, resulting in spamming to Usenet no 
longer returning even the meager ROI that it got when Usenet had 
significantly higher usage.  The spammers moved on to using email for 
spamming (a higher ROI there, at least before the widespread advent of 
SPAM filters).

Unfortunately, a few, desperate (or dumb), spammers, continue to spam 
Usenet.

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#29473 — Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT]

* Rich <rich@example.invalid>:
> Unfortunately, a few, desperate (or dumb), spammers, continue to spam 
> Usenet.

And it has less impact if there aren't followups posted ... thanks ;)

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#29474 — Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT]

On 03/29/2020 09:08 AM, Rich wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 03/28/2020 09:38 PM, Aragorn wrote:
>>> On 29.03.2020 at 03:42, Robert Riches scribbled:
>>>
>>>> Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups:
>>>> Plonk!
>>>
>>> It was multi-posted to all 22 of the groups I'm subscribed to.
>>
>> More than that.  A single post showing up in long-dead groups was a dead
>> giveaway.  Nuisance.
>>
>>> Plonking it is useless though, because it's a typical one-time hitter
>>> and you won't see it again unless it nym-shifts in order to spam yet
>>> another fake-information moneymaking scam.
>>
>> Just like the old days, right?  Whatever happened to The Spam King?
>
> Usenet usage dropped significantly, resulting in spamming to Usenet no
> longer returning even the meager ROI that it got when Usenet had
> significantly higher usage.  The spammers moved on to using email for
> spamming (a higher ROI there, at least before the widespread advent of
> SPAM filters).
>
> Unfortunately, a few, desperate (or dumb), spammers, continue to spam
> Usenet.

The only other one I've seen for a LONG time is the 'Solution Manual' 
guy, and a lot of people apparently ask for one.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "It's too bad stupidity isn't painful." - A. S. LaVey

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#29475 — Re: Multi-posed spammer

On 3/29/20 12:08 PM, Rich wrote:
> Usenet usage dropped significantly, resulting in spamming to Usenet no 
> longer returning even the meager ROI that it got when Usenet had 
> significantly higher usage.  The spammers moved on to using email for 
> spamming (a higher ROI there, at least before the widespread advent of 
> SPAM filters).

I think one of the reasons Usenet usage has dropped significantly is
that it got flooded with spammers and trolls. Consequently some
newsgroups have disappeared entirely, and others have moved to
mailing-lists using email.

But even e-mail usage seems to be down. Many of the people I used to
communicate with by e-mail have moved to Facebook. I happen to hate
Facebook as an e-mail substitute. And now, it seems among the younger
sets, even Facebook is falling out of favor and they communicate (if you
can call it that) using text messages with their cell phones. I feel
like an aging curmudgeon, but that is because I _am_ old. The kids I
used to know are now parents, and some their children are teaching
school in the very schools where I used to take them when they were
students.

Another reason is because some ISPs do not provide a Usenet service
anymore (though they did not lower their fees when they discontinued
it.) Many use web browsers for such e-mail as they use, it not occurring
to them that there are mail user agents and Usenet user agents.

-- 
  .~.  Jean-David Beyer
  /V\  PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B
 /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
 ^^-^^ 12:45:01 up 16 days, 16:14, 2 users, load average: 4.62, 5.14, 5.13

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#29477 — Re: Multi-posed spammer

On 2020-03-29, Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> wrote:

> On 3/29/20 12:08 PM, Rich wrote:
>
>> Usenet usage dropped significantly, resulting in spamming to Usenet no 
>> longer returning even the meager ROI that it got when Usenet had 
>> significantly higher usage.  The spammers moved on to using email for 
>> spamming (a higher ROI there, at least before the widespread advent of 
>> SPAM filters).
>
> I think one of the reasons Usenet usage has dropped significantly is
> that it got flooded with spammers and trolls. Consequently some
> newsgroups have disappeared entirely, and others have moved to
> mailing-lists using email.
>
> But even e-mail usage seems to be down. Many of the people I used to
> communicate with by e-mail have moved to Facebook.

My theory is that Usenet and e-mail share a quality that makes them
anathema to young users: they're both text only.  If you don't offer
flashy graphics... ewww, gross.

> I happen to hate Facebook as an e-mail substitute.

I've never used Facebook and never will.  And I wouldn't even know
how to tweet.  One of my main objections is that these media are
run by monopolies.  So is the phone company, but at least telcos
are a _regulated_ monopoly.

> And now, it seems among the younger
> sets, even Facebook is falling out of favor and they communicate (if you
> can call it that) using text messages with their cell phones. I feel
> like an aging curmudgeon, but that is because I _am_ old. The kids I
> used to know are now parents, and some their children are teaching
> school in the very schools where I used to take them when they were
> students.

I've been honing my curmudgeonly skills for years.  Although I do send
and receive text messages fairly regularly, I do so in an ancient,
arcane language known as English.  This set me apart from normal users,
whose idea of communication is rapidly trending toward the electronic
equivalent of grunts around a campfire.

> Another reason is because some ISPs do not provide a Usenet service
> anymore (though they did not lower their fees when they discontinued
> it.) Many use web browsers for such e-mail as they use, it not occurring
> to them that there are mail user agents and Usenet user agents.

Well, at least it's cut down on spam...

-- 
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\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  Apple is a cult.
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  Linux is anarchy.
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#29478 — Re: Multi-posed spammer

On 3/29/20 1:52 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2020-03-29, Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/29/20 12:08 PM, Rich wrote:
>>
>>> Usenet usage dropped significantly, resulting in spamming to Usenet no
>>> longer returning even the meager ROI that it got when Usenet had
>>> significantly higher usage.  The spammers moved on to using email for
>>> spamming (a higher ROI there, at least before the widespread advent of
>>> SPAM filters).
>>
>> I think one of the reasons Usenet usage has dropped significantly is
>> that it got flooded with spammers and trolls. Consequently some
>> newsgroups have disappeared entirely, and others have moved to
>> mailing-lists using email.

	Actually it is the annoying lack of graphics and the need
to employ arcane means, uuencoding and uudecoding, etc to transmit
those simple images.  If you use so-called Web-mail then text
enhancemnents as well as images are possible which helps to hide
the paucity of consideration that goes into these missives.  Plus
all this requires far less intelligence to use.

>>
>> But even e-mail usage seems to be down. Many of the people I used to
>> communicate with by e-mail have moved to Facebook.
> 
> My theory is that Usenet and e-mail share a quality that makes them
> anathema to young users: they're both text only.  If you don't offer
> flashy graphics... ewww, gross.
> 
>> I happen to hate Facebook as an e-mail substitute.
> 
> I've never used Facebook and never will.  And I wouldn't even know
> how to tweet.  One of my main objections is that these media are
> run by monopolies.  So is the phone company, but at least telcos
> are a _regulated_ monopoly.
> 
>> And now, it seems among the younger
>> sets, even Facebook is falling out of favor and they communicate (if you
>> can call it that) using text messages with their cell phones. I feel
>> like an aging curmudgeon, but that is because I _am_ old. The kids I
>> used to know are now parents, and some their children are teaching
>> school in the very schools where I used to take them when they were
>> students.

	Much like my position but i also noted in its early years Facebook was 
prone to embarrassing lapses in privacy.  They have
never been properly regulated or punished for failures to observe
their own rules. I frequently consider joining Facebook but I have
nothing to sell or crow about.  Usenet is the first social media
and still the best because it does not bother with graphics or
with promoting idiocy.

> 
> I've been honing my curmudgeonly skills for years.  Although I do send
> and receive text messages fairly regularly, I do so in an ancient,
> arcane language known as English.  This set me apart from normal users,
> whose idea of communication is rapidly trending toward the electronic
> equivalent of grunts around a campfire.
	
	The young may be using it to indicate their presence and
their sense of others present.  Speakers of English use it as well
saying Hi! How are you. Fine! and doing well myself. Laters.
There is a term for sort of speech this which presently escapes me.
82.5 yoa with a brain stuffed full of scarcely relevant facts and
factoids.

> 
>> Another reason is because some ISPs do not provide a Usenet service
>> anymore (though they did not lower their fees when they discontinued
>> it.) Many use web browsers for such e-mail as they use, it not occurring
>> to them that there are mail user agents and Usenet user agents.

	That is deliberate on the part of the establishment. They
want everything to be done using their equipment and resources.

> 
> Well, at least it's cut down on spam...
> 
	Well some groups were filled with it and taken from the supported list 
of newsgroups.  A couple of years back the groups
for certain discussions were invaded by UK drug dealers.  They
were a busy lot.  My filter lists runs to 100s of these nether
orifices.

	bliss

-- 
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#29476 — Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT]

with <20200329063855.6eb19cd2@nx-74205> Aragorn wrote:
> On 29.03.2020 at 03:42, Robert Riches scribbled:

>> Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups: Plonk!
>
> It was multi-posted to all 22 of the groups I'm subscribed to. 

Probably RR (= Robert Riches) was talking about BS (= Bobby Sellers).
Also, I'm considering that (maybe) what BS did was part of a strategy to
put that scam on track.  IOW, I suspect that BS and that throw-away are
connected.  See, conspirology isn't that hard.

Also, rec.* I'm subscribed to wasn't hit at all.  Probably isn't carried
at entry point.

*CUT*

-- 
Torvalds' goal for Linux is very simple: World Domination
Stallman's goal for GNU is even simpler: Freedom

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#29485 — Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT]

On 29.03.2020 at 19:23, Eric Pozharski scribbled:

> with <20200329063855.6eb19cd2@nx-74205> Aragorn wrote:
> > On 29.03.2020 at 03:42, Robert Riches scribbled:  
> 
> >> Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups:
> >> Plonk!  
> >
> > It was multi-posted to all 22 of the groups I'm subscribed to.   
> 
> Probably RR (= Robert Riches) was talking about BS (= Bobby Sellers).
> Also, I'm considering that (maybe) what BS did was part of a strategy
> to put that scam on track.  IOW, I suspect that BS and that
> throw-away are connected.  See, conspirology isn't that hard.

Bobbie has nothing to do with any of that nonsense.

And as for conspirology — is that a word? — I am an administrator at
three forums that deal with conspiracy research (among other things),
but I happen to be a conspiracy-skeptic myself, and one of those forums
is filled to the roof with ludicrous conspiracy theories [*], so I'm
actually quite disgusted with the whole thing.  I'm only doing it
anymore because of the technicalities of running the forums and the
friends I've made there.


[*] For instance, the pandemic isn't real.  It's caused by 5G (1), which
    operates at 60 GHz (2) and this causes the creation of ozone (3),
    which damages the lungs (4).  It's a plot of the New World Order
    (5) to have us adopt an authoritarian dictatorship.

    (1) False — it is very much a real virus.
    (2) False — 5G operates in the MHz range.
    (3) False — ozone is formed by ultraviolet light, whose frequency
                lies in the THz to PHz range.
    (4) True, but only in very large quantities.
    (5) False — the quarantine is absolutely necessary in order to
                spread out the contamination over a longer period, so
                that the health services can more adequately deal with
                the number of infections.

> Also, rec.* I'm subscribed to wasn't hit at all.  Probably isn't
> carried at entry point.

All of the groups I'm subscribed to are GNU/Linux-related or generic
UNIX-related, and the list includes two Belgian (and thus
non-English-spoken) groups.

-- 
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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#29552 — Re: Multi-posed spammer [was: Fight the coronavirus 100% and save LOTS of CASH -- Combattez le coronavirus 100% et économisez BEAUCOUP d'ARGENT]

On 2020-03-29, Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> wrote:
> with <20200329063855.6eb19cd2@nx-74205> Aragorn wrote:
>> On 29.03.2020 at 03:42, Robert Riches scribbled:
>
>>> Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups: Plonk!
>>
>> It was multi-posted to all 22 of the groups I'm subscribed to. 
>
> Probably RR (= Robert Riches) was talking about BS (= Bobby Sellers).
> Also, I'm considering that (maybe) what BS did was part of a strategy to
> put that scam on track.  IOW, I suspect that BS and that throw-away are
> connected.  See, conspirology isn't that hard.
>
> Also, rec.* I'm subscribed to wasn't hit at all.  Probably isn't carried
> at entry point.
>
> *CUT*

Yes, the poster I plonked was Bobbie Sellers.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#29489

Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>:
>On 2020-03-28, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups:
>Plonk!

I've seen it in almost all newsgroups I'm subscribed to: some
English speaking and serveral German speaking ones.

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#29516

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:20:32 +0200, Helmut Waitzmann wrote:
>
> Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>:
>>On 2020-03-28, Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>
>>Badly misinformed multi-posting in at least four newsgroups:
>>Plonk!
>
> I've seen it in almost all newsgroups I'm subscribed to: some
> English speaking and serveral German speaking ones.

Only seeing the followups here, not the original. Seems the news server I
use has a good clean-feed (or how you called it).
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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