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| First post | 2026-06-14 01:07 +0000 |
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MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 01:07 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 00:10 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 06:16 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 03:19 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:11 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:00 -0400
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-14 10:33 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:20 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-14 19:45 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 23:49 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:41 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:34 -0400
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 07:23 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 07:02 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-15 12:36 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 03:39 -0400
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:52 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 22:05 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 02:59 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 23:55 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 07:00 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-17 08:14 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:10 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 19:26 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 03:20 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 18:45 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-19 02:50 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-19 16:56 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-20 03:41 -0400
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-20 10:19 +0200
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 01:06 -0400
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 12:34 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-20 17:36 +0000
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-20 20:01 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 03:19 +0000
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 12:29 +0200
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 02:34 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 06:44 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 03:35 -0400
Re: MX Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 15:50 -0700
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:53 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 17:52 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 23:19 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 07:07 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 11:06 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:02 -0400
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-18 18:26 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-19 02:37 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 19:23 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-19 04:46 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-19 05:55 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-19 02:56 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-19 02:59 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-19 17:00 +0000
Re: MX Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 08:01 +0000
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 07:00 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:05 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 22:32 -0400
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 07:21 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 02:50 -0400
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 13:19 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 06:52 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 03:37 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 17:00 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 22:40 -0400
Re: MX Linux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-15 13:09 +0200
Re: MX Linux 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-14 11:50 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:16 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:04 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 06:56 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 22:35 -0400
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 04:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <2fKcne8jWrasL673nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88042 |
On 6/17/26 18:50, John Ames wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:55:26 -0400 > c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > >>> It works on the eeePC but there are obvious limitations because of >>> the hardware. I'll put 26 up in a VM on the Thinkpad T480 to give >>> it a fairer trial. >> >> Can you still GET an eeePC ? Mine fell about three floors onto >> concrete .... >> >> It was a GREAT little laptop though ! > > Absolute tanks. Mine fell from the roof of my car onto a freeway on- > ramp at ~20 MPH and came out with no worse than a lightly-cracked and > heavily-scuffed case, lasted another ~8 yrs. before succumbing to a > board failure. Bought another used, which has been chugging along ever > since, though it's in need of a replacement PSU jack and battery ATM. > > Nobody but *nobody* solved the laptop-hinge problem like Asus did on > those first couple Eee generations. Oneathesedays, maybe when this one > gives up the ghost, I oughta figure out how to rip out the guts and > stuff a little ARM SBC in there... > The three-floor drop totally KILLED mine alas. Was using it to align some roof-line security cameras and ..... But, regardless, it WAS a great little laptop and ran Linux perfectly.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 17:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9dgqaFeu80U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88001 |
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 03:39:44 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Well, mirrors, it's not just YOUR speed, it's how well their software > delivers, how much bandwidth THEY have and how much they allocate to > any one user. I go the StarLink kit yesterday and set it up. speedtest.net shows 41 Mbps down, 21 uo. The Verizon wireless shows 10.5 down, 0.21 up. speed.cloudflare.com may be more realistic and shows 30/10 for StarLink, 3.32 Mbps/221 kbps for Verizon. That's from the Fedora box. The speed test from the StarLink app show 101 Mbps down. The SUSE laptop showed 105 down. The app shows no obstructions and the dish is oriented correctly. Despite the varying speed tests it is faster than Verizon. I also moved the Fire TV to StarLink. Neither SUSE or Fedora has a large update so I can't get a feeling for that difference. The Mint laptop updated and seemed a little snappier. It's showing 46.4 down, 11.2 up. The router does have an Ethernet port. I'll pick up a cable and see if the WiFi chips in the different machine are the difference. That may also allow me to create a bridge for the VM. I'll run the two in parallel for a while but faster speeds and $40 / month makes MuskNet attractive for me.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 23:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <6UydnRO_f_Xqj6_3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88009 |
On 6/16/26 13:52, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 03:39:44 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Well, mirrors, it's not just YOUR speed, it's how well their software >> delivers, how much bandwidth THEY have and how much they allocate to >> any one user. > > I go the StarLink kit yesterday and set it up. speedtest.net shows 41 Mbps > down, 21 uo. The Verizon wireless shows 10.5 down, 0.21 up. Useful info !!! SINCE they seem to have added an antenna, my 5G speed has been vastly better than before ... fast.com shows 23 and 37 mbps now ... used to be like THREE at best, worse than my old DSL. So NOW I feel like I'm getting what I paid for ... over a year later .... CloudFlare sez 28 ... but it's not picking very local servers for testing. In any case, yer StarLink speed is "very usable" except maybe for 8k streaming. I never do that anyway. No, not cable/fiber gigabit+, but not sure WHO really needs that much speed - online gamers or a medium biz maybe ? Really really MAY pay for StarLink as an "auxillary/emergency" connection. NOT sure I've seen an "unlimited" acct category however - but for an 'emergency' I don't NEED that. Elon needs to start deploying WORKING StarLink-NextGen sats during his StarShip tests. THAT much seems to work OK. > speed.cloudflare.com may be more realistic and shows 30/10 for StarLink, > 3.32 Mbps/221 kbps for Verizon. > > That's from the Fedora box. The speed test from the StarLink app show 101 > Mbps down. The SUSE laptop showed 105 down. Note company apps ALWAYS exaggerate the shit out of the speed :-) > The app shows no obstructions and the dish is oriented correctly. Despite > the varying speed tests it is faster than Verizon. > > I also moved the Fire TV to StarLink. Neither SUSE or Fedora has a large > update so I can't get a feeling for that difference. The Mint laptop > updated and seemed a little snappier. It's showing 46.4 down, 11.2 up. > > The router does have an Ethernet port. I'll pick up a cable and see if the > WiFi chips in the different machine are the difference. That may also > allow me to create a bridge for the VM. > > I'll run the two in parallel for a while but faster speeds and $40 / month > makes MuskNet attractive for me. My 5G router has a couple of hardwire ports. Alas, and I've TRIED, they won't access the net. Anyway, as said, my house is very wiring-unfriendly regardless and I'm way too old to try to squeeze into tiny spider- infested cracks and crevices in the 'attic'. WiFi extenders work. What's NEEDED is a "centipede-bot" - maybe an inch across and 12-16 long, capable of getting into most any crack and dragging at least a pull-wire behind. I can kinda see the mechanics and software, the power supply is a bit more iffy ... might have to have a supply cable attached to its butt.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-17 07:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9eve5Fm4idU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88022 |
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:19:35 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Really really MAY pay for StarLink as an "auxillary/emergency" > connection. NOT sure I've seen an "unlimited" acct category however - > but for an 'emergency' I don't NEED that. I went for the basic residential that they claim up to 100 mbps. They tweaked the plans after the IPO but mine is $55/month and no upfront cost for the dish, router, and power supply. The hardest part of the installation was drilling the 5/8 hole for the ethernet cable. The 50' ethernet cable. Just what I needed another big ball of wire. There are different mounts but I'm using the 'kickstand' that comes with the dish.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-17 11:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110trjj$1os2e$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88031 |
On 17/06/2026 08:07, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:19:35 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Really really MAY pay for StarLink as an "auxillary/emergency" >> connection. NOT sure I've seen an "unlimited" acct category however - >> but for an 'emergency' I don't NEED that. > > I went for the basic residential that they claim up to 100 mbps. They > tweaked the plans after the IPO but mine is $55/month and no upfront cost > for the dish, router, and power supply. The hardest part of the > installation was drilling the 5/8 hole for the ethernet cable. The 50' > ethernet cable. Just what I needed another big ball of wire. There are > different mounts but I'm using the 'kickstand' that comes with the dish. An extremely affordable service then. -- Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? Josef Stalin
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 04:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <2fKcnfIjWrbDO673nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88031 |
On 6/17/26 03:07, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:19:35 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Really really MAY pay for StarLink as an "auxillary/emergency" >> connection. NOT sure I've seen an "unlimited" acct category however - >> but for an 'emergency' I don't NEED that. > > I went for the basic residential that they claim up to 100 mbps. They > tweaked the plans after the IPO but mine is $55/month and no upfront cost > for the dish, router, and power supply. The hardest part of the > installation was drilling the 5/8 hole for the ethernet cable. The 50' > ethernet cable. Just what I needed another big ball of wire. There are > different mounts but I'm using the 'kickstand' that comes with the dish. This is all Very Useful Info !!! Oh, DID buy some long concrete drills lately ... in case I needed (may SOON need) a DISH TV connection. Could also drill for StarLink. Oh ... sounds like there's an outdoor antenna of sorts. HOW big ? WHERE does it point (if anywhere) ? My old old Comcast wire comes in from a pole on the side of my property. In the late 70s it went over small trees/bushes. Since then, they grew into HUGE trees and bushes. I'd attach a photo but it's TOO depressing. Tree company said $2500+ minimum to clear a new path and would NOT guarentee the wire would not be destroyed in the process. Basically a bunch of quasi-legals going nuts with chain saws. Took nearly a MONTH to get someone at Comcast who COULD understand that the physical wire was broken, NOT in their diags book. Kept wanting to replace my box. NOT the problem ! "Cable" doesn't work without the damned CABLE. Clue - be CIVIL and POLITE with the techs in Bangalore and they will, eventually, boost you to a US tech who will immediately understand the issue and send a crew. Now it's under a huge mass of tree limbs, then finally up to where I bungee-corded it to a taller tree. Horrible. Not viable for the future. Amazed it's lasted THIS long. After - DISH TV. Much cheaper than $2500+ DO love conventional channel surfing. All-Net programming doesn't really offer that.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 18:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <MLWYR.161412$Hs3.46676@fx35.iad> |
| In reply to | #88045 |
On 2026-06-18, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > Tree company said $2500+ minimum to clear a new path > and would NOT guarentee the wire would not be destroyed > in the process. Basically a bunch of quasi-legals going > nuts with chain saws. Took nearly a MONTH to get someone at > Comcast who COULD understand that the physical wire was > broken, NOT in their diags book. Kept wanting to replace > my box. NOT the problem ! "Cable" doesn't work without > the damned CABLE. BTDT after construction workers across the street tore out our connection. > Clue - be CIVIL and POLITE with the techs in Bangalore > and they will, eventually, boost you to a US tech who > will immediately understand the issue and send a crew. Also, be patient and persistent. Try to resolve one problem at a time, and be prepared to call back another time if you can't get the tech to look at a second problem. Think of it as a process of stepwise refinement. Have a phone on which you can comfortably stay on hold for an hour or so, and call when you have other stuff you can do while you're waiting. When you do get a live person on the line, keep him there until you've resolved as much as you can without losing your cool. Be sure you have time to spare before starting. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | No artificial \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | intelligence was X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | used in the creation / \ if you read it the right way. | of this post.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 02:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <-4mcnbL8UPcBfqn3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88063 |
On 6/18/26 14:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-06-18, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > >> Tree company said $2500+ minimum to clear a new path >> and would NOT guarentee the wire would not be destroyed >> in the process. Basically a bunch of quasi-legals going >> nuts with chain saws. Took nearly a MONTH to get someone at >> Comcast who COULD understand that the physical wire was >> broken, NOT in their diags book. Kept wanting to replace >> my box. NOT the problem ! "Cable" doesn't work without >> the damned CABLE. > > BTDT after construction workers across the street tore out > our connection. > >> Clue - be CIVIL and POLITE with the techs in Bangalore >> and they will, eventually, boost you to a US tech who >> will immediately understand the issue and send a crew. > > Also, be patient and persistent. Try to resolve one > problem at a time, and be prepared to call back another > time if you can't get the tech to look at a second problem. > Think of it as a process of stepwise refinement. Have a > phone on which you can comfortably stay on hold for an > hour or so, and call when you have other stuff you can > do while you're waiting. When you do get a live person > on the line, keep him there until you've resolved as much > as you can without losing your cool. > > Be sure you have time to spare before starting. Comcast is DIFFICULT to deal with. It's TOO big now. They've also outsourced TOO much. It's also TOO fuckin' expensive ... almost HOPING my wire finally breaks so I can get a dish. Checked, same line-up for less than half the price. Anyway, dealing with the Indian tech brigade - they REALLY don't KNOW much of anything ... clearly have, and quote exactly, some manual they were given. However, they DO respond to courtesy, civility and a bit of patience. Do NOT get angry, do NOT cuss them, you'll get NOWHERE. Gotta kind of manipulate/guide the 'conversation' so you can get to a USA tech. "Who CAN I reach who will more exactly understand my particular service problem ?".
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-18 19:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9iuthFaeprU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88045 |
On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 04:02:36 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Oh, DID buy some long concrete drills lately ... in case I needed > (may SOON need) a DISH TV connection. Could also drill for StarLink. Lucky me, no concrete. A 5/8 spade and 5/8 hole saw got the job done. The boot on the connector just fits. > Oh ... sounds like there's an outdoor antenna of sorts. HOW big ? > WHERE does it point (if anywhere) ? 23.4 x 15.07 in https://www.starlinkinfo.com/starlink-dish-size There are several options but the Standard 4 is the latest. It comes with a kickstand. There are other mounting techniques but I have a flat area where the kickstand works well. So far I laid an old bike battery on the kickstand but there are two holes in the kickstand. I'll see how it works but may mount it to a piece of plywood I had laying around and add a few more batteries for more weight. Bikes tend to go through batteries so I have a good supply. There is a phone app that's used to set it up. Even without the dish the app allows you to scan the sky and determine a suitable area. Unlike the geosynch dishes in the northern hemisphere you point it north. I initially pointed it a 45 degrees. The app has an alignment page that said it was good. If not, it shows the correct alignment. You can also connect to 192.168.100.1. That's a little more detailed and said 30 degrees would be better. I didn't notice much improvement for download speeds, ping times, or latency. speedtest.net shows 40 Mbps down on the older Dell box with Fedora, 101 Mbps on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. I'm thinking the difference is the older WiFi chip. I've got an Ethernet cable coming today to see if a direct connection gets it up to full advertised speed. Someone asked how much people were downloading a month on the starlink subreddit. Many said they were using 1+ TB. Games, continuously streaming 4K, and so forth. With my current Verizon 100 GB plan I've only gotten emial that I was getting close a couple of times, but I did watch the usage and deferred iso downlads or release updates to the end of the month period.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 04:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n9jscbFfb1bU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88066 |
rbowman wrote: > speedtest.net shows 40 Mbps down on the older Dell box with Fedora, 101 > Mbps on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. I'm thinking the difference is the > older WiFi chip. I've got an Ethernet cable coming today to see if a > direct connection gets it up to full advertised speed. Highly likely ... IME the biggest cause of people not getting the speed they're paying their ISP for is WiFi.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 05:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9k3uoFd22iU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88078 |
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 04:46:10 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: > rbowman wrote: > >> speedtest.net shows 40 Mbps down on the older Dell box with Fedora, 101 >> Mbps on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. I'm thinking the difference is >> the older WiFi chip. I've got an Ethernet cable coming today to see if >> a direct connection gets it up to full advertised speed. > > Highly likely ... IME the biggest cause of people not getting the speed > they're paying their ISP for is WiFi. The Fedora box is showing the full 100 Mbps with a wired connection. Updating VS Code had been a problem with a lot of timeouts but it took seconds. The box had also been sluggish with sftp from other machines on the LAN but that was also greatly improved. The wireless adapter is a Qualcom Atheros from 2014 to match the rest of the hardware. It must be tired. It is 2.4 GHz. The Lenovo T480 has a newer Intel adapter that connects at 5 GHz and shows 100 Mbps down. I haven't moved the Beelink to Starlink yet but it's also relatively new and probably will get the full speed. The 2011 netbook is also a 2.4 GHz connection but it gets 70 Mbps. It's not heavily used so that's fine. I was hoping I could resolve the problem of the VM not being visible on the LAN with a wired connection but so far no luck. That's not a big deal either.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 02:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <-4mcna38UPeRdan3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88080 |
On 6/19/26 01:55, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 04:46:10 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: > >> rbowman wrote: >> >>> speedtest.net shows 40 Mbps down on the older Dell box with Fedora, 101 >>> Mbps on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. I'm thinking the difference is >>> the older WiFi chip. I've got an Ethernet cable coming today to see if >>> a direct connection gets it up to full advertised speed. >> >> Highly likely ... IME the biggest cause of people not getting the speed >> they're paying their ISP for is WiFi. > > The Fedora box is showing the full 100 Mbps with a wired connection. > Updating VS Code had been a problem with a lot of timeouts but it took > seconds. The box had also been sluggish with sftp from other machines on > the LAN but that was also greatly improved. > > The wireless adapter is a Qualcom Atheros from 2014 to match the rest of > the hardware. It must be tired. It is 2.4 GHz. The Lenovo T480 has a newer > Intel adapter that connects at 5 GHz and shows 100 Mbps down. > > I haven't moved the Beelink to Starlink yet but it's also relatively new > and probably will get the full speed. > > The 2011 netbook is also a 2.4 GHz connection but it gets 70 Mbps. It's > not heavily used so that's fine. > > I was hoping I could resolve the problem of the VM not being visible on > the LAN with a wired connection but so far no luck. That's not a big deal > either. KVM is not 'local network' friendly. With VBox it's checking one little thing. Anyway, good luck with your StarLink ... keep us informed. LOOKS to be a good 'backup', sometimes 'main', net connection. Every old provider is just obsessed with 5G links now - often for the worse. Wires/fibers are EXPENSIVE.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 02:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n5acnZdUso1Sdan3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88078 |
On 6/18/26 23:46, Andy Burns wrote: > rbowman wrote: > >> speedtest.net shows 40 Mbps down on the older Dell box with Fedora, 101 >> Mbps on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. I'm thinking the difference is the >> older WiFi chip. I've got an Ethernet cable coming today to see if a >> direct connection gets it up to full advertised speed. > > Highly likely ... IME the biggest cause of people not getting the speed > they're paying their ISP for is WiFi. Umm ... my actual WiFi ain't bad - and SOME links are over 'extenders'. My biggest prob was the 5G. Just in the past week that finally improved - they must have added an antenna. Still not "great", but a great improvement over what I've had for a year+. "Usable". SEVERAL places connections can go wrong alas.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-19 17:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9latdFmbfkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88088 |
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 02:59:17 -0400, c186282 wrote: > On 6/18/26 23:46, Andy Burns wrote: >> rbowman wrote: >> >>> speedtest.net shows 40 Mbps down on the older Dell box with Fedora, >>> 101 Mbps on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. I'm thinking the difference >>> is the older WiFi chip. I've got an Ethernet cable coming today to see >>> if a direct connection gets it up to full advertised speed. >> >> Highly likely ... IME the biggest cause of people not getting the speed >> they're paying their ISP for is WiFi. > > Umm ... my actual WiFi ain't bad - and SOME links are over > 'extenders'. My biggest prob was the 5G. Just in the past week that > finally improved - they must have added an antenna. Still not > "great", but a great improvement over what I've had for a year+. > "Usable". > > SEVERAL places connections can go wrong alas. The problem was not the Verizon WiFi hotspot but the WiFi adapter in the old Dell box. The newer Lenovo laptop with an Intel 5 GHz adapter works fine. The Dell is 2.4 GHz. A wired connection brought it up to full speed.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 08:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <110obhj$6u7d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87982 |
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 07:23:36 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: > That's why i tried the USA mirrors too, they are just as fast to me > as the UK ones, I suspect the problem is the internet connection > between the USA mirrors (mostly big .edu) and your ISP ... Is a torrent available? That would spread the bandwidth load among multiple peers.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 07:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n99m7tFrbe7U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87978 |
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 01:34:09 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Crappy mirrors HAVE become a problem of late, > and not just for MX. Set up a generic Deb a few months ago ... again > HORRIBLE US mirrors. I've had problems with VS Code from the MS repository. When I finally get it installed I lock the package so updates don't time out on that one. With Endeavouur the LA mirror always ranked at the top of the list using the tool, never worked well in practice. I'd manually remove it from the list.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 23:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5CWdnW1P9p258bL3nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87964 |
On 6/14/26 14:20, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 10:33:51 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: > >> c186282 wrote: >> >>> rbowman wrote: >>>>> I finally got an iso downloaded and installed. From my experience >>>> the MX mirrors are crap. I finally found one that sowed the download >>>> in less than an hour instead of hours if not days. >>> >>> Agree about the slow mirrors. It's not you, it's them. >> I picked a UK one and it was able to saturate my connection, 3 GB in >> just under 6 minutes > > You're lucky, I don't have the fastest connection but the US mirrors were > ridiculous. r/MXLinux isn't very active but I did see a post where someone > wondered why a mirror halfway around the world was better than the US > ones. Try the mirror for "Tribblix/Solaris" - makes the MX mirrors look FAST ! :-)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 22:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xFSdna16L8rd-bL3nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87957 |
On 6/14/26 05:33, Andy Burns wrote: > > c186282 wrote: > >> rbowman wrote: >> >> I finally got an iso downloaded and installed. From my experience >>> the MX mirrors are crap. I finally found one that sowed the >>> download in less than an hour instead of hours if not days. >> >> Agree about the slow mirrors. It's not you, it's them. > I picked a UK one and it was able to saturate my connection, 3 GB in > just under 6 minutes Wow !!! Not the same experience in most of the USA - and I've tried different mirrors. Attempting to download a Solaris deriv called "Tribblix" right now. Makes the MX mirrors look super speedy :-) Anyway, MX, try it out. I can't see how you would be disappointed - they really did polish-up a jewel.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 07:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n99jumFr2lhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87969 |
c186282 wrote: > Anyway, MX, try it out. I can't see how you would be I'm just about to try a move from fedora with gnome, to the kde plasma spin, so far only looked at the live DVD but basically every thing works and I like the look ... rbowman mentioned xfce which I used to use on a less powerful media PC ...
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 02:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xFSdnap6L8pePbL3nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87981 |
On 6/15/26 02:21, Andy Burns wrote: > c186282 wrote: > >> Anyway, MX, try it out. I can't see how you would be > > I'm just about to try a move from fedora with gnome, to the kde plasma Uuuugh ! TRIED it. NOT all that happy. Ultimately DUMPED it. Others love it more fanatically, so I'm not gonna pretend to be the True Prophet. Still, now, you're better off with Deb spins and a more simple desktop. Just MY experiences. I test MANY distros - some in VMs, some bare metal Just Too See. Had horrible issues with the latest Fedora and UPDATES. GUI or CLI ... they'd all HANG about a third of the way through. Some - indeed online bug reports - say the same. Some say they have few/no probs. Puzzling. Can usually update ONCE, then the issues kick in. Fedora USED to be one of those "Just Works" distros. Deb derivs USUALLY "Just Work". > spin, so far only looked at the live DVD but basically every thing works > and I like the look ... rbowman mentioned xfce which I used to use on a > less powerful media PC ... "MX" ... it's a gem of a "middle distro" with some extra perks thrown in. It's now my go-to for any box. Add to it, subtract from it - you can get What You Need with minimal trouble. Even more all-compatible than Mint. Have several of those "mini-boxes" - BeeLink/BMax - more than fast enough for Linux. Always have at least one dedicated to nothing - meaning I can test various distros bare-metal if they seem worth it. Hmm, found a SPARE mini-box in a cardboard box the other day. NOT sure why it's there. Yet another one I can use for bare-metal testing if I want. "N-90" ? Not "speedy", but again Fast Enough for Linux. Even Pi-4/5s are often "Fast Enough" depending.
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