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| Started by | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| First post | 2026-06-14 01:07 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-06-14 22:35 -0400 |
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MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 01:07 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 00:10 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 06:16 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 03:19 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:11 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:00 -0400
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-14 10:33 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:20 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-14 19:45 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 23:49 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:41 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:34 -0400
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 07:23 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 07:02 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-15 12:36 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 03:39 -0400
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:52 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 22:05 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 02:59 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 23:55 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 07:00 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-17 08:14 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:10 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 19:26 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 03:20 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 18:45 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-19 02:50 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-19 16:56 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-20 03:41 -0400
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-20 10:19 +0200
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 01:06 -0400
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 12:34 +0200
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 22:41 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-20 17:36 +0000
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-20 20:01 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 03:19 +0000
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 12:29 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 17:34 +0000
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 19:49 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 23:22 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-22 01:08 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 06:34 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 09:27 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 13:46 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-23 04:32 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-23 17:26 +0000
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-23 18:36 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:57 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-24 01:34 +0000
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-24 11:51 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-24 18:07 +0000
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-25 12:02 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-25 17:11 +0000
Re: MX Linux "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-26 10:52 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-26 17:58 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:59 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-26 22:04 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-27 09:35 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-28 00:29 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-27 23:48 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-26 01:50 -0400
Re: MX Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:20 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 09:22 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 23:51 -0400
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-21 17:49 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 02:19 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-22 01:13 -0400
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 10:20 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-22 05:25 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 13:54 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 17:28 +0100
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-22 17:07 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 04:23 +0100
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-23 04:49 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-23 05:10 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-22 00:11 -0400
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-22 17:07 +0000
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 20:36 +0000
Re: MX Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-23 07:18 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-23 05:03 -0400
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-23 10:27 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-23 17:39 +0000
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-23 17:36 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 22:39 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 03:50 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-22 01:16 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 06:29 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 09:55 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-22 13:50 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 02:34 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 06:44 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 03:35 -0400
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-21 17:30 +0000
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-21 23:31 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-21 23:22 -0400
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-22 17:07 +0000
Re: MX Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 15:50 -0700
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:53 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 17:52 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 23:19 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 07:07 +0000
Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 11:06 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:02 -0400
Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-18 18:26 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-19 02:37 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 19:23 +0000
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-19 04:46 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-19 05:55 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-19 02:56 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-19 02:59 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-19 17:00 +0000
Re: MX Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 08:01 +0000
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 07:00 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:05 -0400
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 22:32 -0400
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 07:21 +0100
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 02:50 -0400
Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 13:19 +0100
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 06:52 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 03:37 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 17:00 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 22:40 -0400
Re: MX Linux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-15 13:09 +0200
Re: MX Linux 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-14 11:50 +0200
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:16 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:04 -0400
Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 06:56 +0000
Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 22:35 -0400
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 17:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9ddogFeu80U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88000 |
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 03:37:09 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Incorrect. It offers two installs - SysV and systemd. SEEMS to > install according to the one you pick. You are correct. I was thinking of the Plasma Login Manager. https://hackaday.com/2026/02/02/kde-binds-itself-tightly-to-systemd-drops- support-for-non-systemd-systems/
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-16 22:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <6UydnRC_f_XblK_3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88008 |
On 6/16/26 13:00, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 03:37:09 -0400, c186282 wrote: > > >> Incorrect. It offers two installs - SysV and systemd. SEEMS to >> install according to the one you pick. > > You are correct. I was thinking of the Plasma Login Manager. > > https://hackaday.com/2026/02/02/kde-binds-itself-tightly-to-systemd-drops- > support-for-non-systemd-systems/ Installed a new MX on two boxes lately - DO remember the options. If you want SysV then you can install/run SysV, if you want systemd then the same. If you want to CHANGE in the middle, use "grub-customizer" to pick off the menus. My little NAS box was, alas, installed as SysV when I really wanted systemd - didn't look closely enough. "Grub-customizer" fixed that without the need for a full re-install. MOST distros I've come across lately are either one or the other. Want/need something else - suck it. Did finally get "Tribblix" and "OpenIndiana" installed in VBox today. Suppose there's OK for a certain crowd but there are also lots of little probs (even with like terminal windows). The OpenIndiana/Solaris model uses "pkg" to find software, but the whole model is kind of anti-"install" ... you're supposed to download gzips, expand, compile ..... Tribblix ... slightly more sensible package system using "zap". It CAN fully install. However half the software is in "overlay" files - and if you pick one of them it installs EVERYTHING in them whether you want it or not. Note not a HUGE selection of software either. All kinda CRUDE. Some of the BSDs are more "with it" these days. The underlying Solaris system IS solid, good for servers and such, but ..... Squished both into a VDI and put them off into long-term storage. Shouldn't be in a BIG hurry to destroy working stuff. Anyway, tomorrow, "Endeavour". SO much out there - gotta keep checking around. Every so often somebody DOES have the Better Idea.
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 13:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <110omh5$20hjv$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #87981 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >I'm just about to try a move from fedora with gnome, to the kde plasma >spin, so far only looked at the live DVD but basically every thing works >and I like the look ... rbowman mentioned xfce which I used to use on a >less powerful media PC ... Try a new desktop always with a new account. Otherwise, you risk modifying your "daily driver desktop" in a way you maybe don't like. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 11:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <zKScnWrpxaYY5LP3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87947 |
W dniu 14.06.2026 o 06:10, c186282 pisze: > And, Blessed Be Synaptic ! Your one-stop intuitive and > useful util for everything the distro has. I recall that I use Synaptic only at the beginning my Linux experience. It was before 2010. Since I return to Linux in dec. 2017, I use only apt. It is very easy and very intuitive for me. -- Z totaliztycznym salutem! Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska 🇵🇱, UE 🇪🇺; tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA; Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>; Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>; Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>. UWAGA: NIE ZACIĄGAJ "UKRYTEGO DŁUGU"! PŁAĆ ZA PROG. FOSS I INFO. INTERNETOWE! CZYTAJ DARMOWY: "17. Raport Totaliztyczny - Patroni Kontra Bankierzy": <https://energokod.gda.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/17.%20Patroni%20Kontra%20Bankierzy.pdf>
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 18:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n989gfFkc5pU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87958 |
On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 11:50:49 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: > W dniu 14.06.2026 o 06:10, c186282 pisze: >> And, Blessed Be Synaptic ! Your one-stop intuitive and useful util >> for everything the distro has. > > I recall that I use Synaptic only at the beginning my Linux experience. > It was before 2010. Since I return to Linux in dec. 2017, I use only > apt. It is very easy and very intuitive for me. I seldom use anything but the CLI for installs and updates. apt, dnf, and zypper are pretty much the same. pacman was the odd one with -Syu. At some point I did install Synaptic on the Ubuntu box. If I do want a GUI it's better than the Ubuntu utility.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 23:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5CWdnXJP9p1-9rL3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87963 |
On 6/14/26 14:16, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 11:50:49 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: > >> W dniu 14.06.2026 o 06:10, c186282 pisze: >>> And, Blessed Be Synaptic ! Your one-stop intuitive and useful util >>> for everything the distro has. >> >> I recall that I use Synaptic only at the beginning my Linux experience. >> It was before 2010. Since I return to Linux in dec. 2017, I use only >> apt. It is very easy and very intuitive for me. > > I seldom use anything but the CLI for installs and updates. apt, dnf, and > zypper are pretty much the same. pacman was the odd one with -Syu. > > At some point I did install Synaptic on the Ubuntu box. If I do want a GUI > it's better than the Ubuntu utility. If you're only using the CLI utils then you're MISSING like 90% of what's in yer distro. A good distro is like a hardware store ... you don't know what you "really need" until you go there and see what's on all the shelves :-)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-15 06:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n99m0rFrbe7U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87973 |
On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 23:04:48 -0400, c186282 wrote: > If you're only using the CLI utils then you're MISSING like 90% of > what's in yer distro. > > A good distro is like a hardware store ... you don't know what you > "really need" until you go there and see what's on all the shelves I know what I need for what I do. What I install is basically the same across disros, including Windows 11. I sometimes have that problem with hardware stores but even there I'm usually looking for something for a project that isn't always what it was designed for.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-14 22:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5CWdnXNP9p1w-bL3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87958 |
On 6/14/26 05:50, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: > W dniu 14.06.2026 o 06:10, c186282 pisze: >> And, Blessed Be Synaptic ! Your one-stop intuitive and >> useful util for everything the distro has. > > I recall that I use Synaptic only at the beginning my Linux experience. > It was before 2010. Since I return to Linux in dec. 2017, I use only > apt. It is very easy and very intuitive for me. Synaptic will put all the info about the what and why of every package right up front where you can see it. Apt, apt-get, they WORK of course ... but they're most useful if you already know exactly what you want. Try Synaptic again. See what I mean.
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