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MX Linux

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First post2026-06-14 01:07 +0000
Last post2026-06-14 22:35 -0400
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  MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 01:07 +0000
    Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 00:10 -0400
      Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 06:16 +0000
        Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 03:19 -0400
          Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:11 +0000
            Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:00 -0400
      Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-14 10:33 +0100
        Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:20 +0000
          Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-14 19:45 +0100
            Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 23:49 +0000
              Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:41 -0400
            Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:34 -0400
              Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 07:23 +0100
                Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 07:02 +0000
                  Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-15 12:36 +0100
                  Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 03:39 -0400
                    Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:52 +0100
                      Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 22:05 -0400
                        Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 02:59 +0000
                          Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 23:55 -0400
                            Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 07:00 +0000
                              Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-17 08:14 +0100
                                Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:10 -0400
                                  Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 19:26 +0000
                              Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 03:20 -0400
                                Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 18:45 +0000
                            Re: MX Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 15:50 -0700
                              Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:53 -0400
                    Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 17:52 +0000
                      Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 23:19 -0400
                        Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-17 07:07 +0000
                          Re: MX Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 11:06 +0100
                          Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-18 04:02 -0400
                            Re: MX Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-18 18:26 +0000
                            Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-18 19:23 +0000
                Re: MX Linux Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 08:01 +0000
              Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 07:00 +0000
          Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:05 -0400
        Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 22:32 -0400
          Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 07:21 +0100
            Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 02:50 -0400
              Re: MX Linux Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-15 13:19 +0100
            Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 06:52 +0000
              Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 03:37 -0400
                Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 17:00 +0000
                  Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-16 22:40 -0400
            Re: MX Linux Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-15 13:09 +0200
      Re: MX Linux 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-14 11:50 +0200
        Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:16 +0000
          Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 23:04 -0400
            Re: MX Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 06:56 +0000
        Re: MX Linux c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 22:35 -0400

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#88030

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-17 07:00 +0000
Message-ID<n9euvuFm4idU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88027
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:55:26 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>   Can you still GET an eeePC ? Mine fell about three floors
>    onto concrete ...

You might be able to find one on eBay. iirc I bought mine in 2007 when 
they first came out. At the time it was Linux only; windows came later.

Downloaded the antiX 26 full and brought it up in a VM. When I tried to 
install it said the iso was corrupt. Downloaded from another site. Same 
story. The live version ran so I opened a terminal and ran 'sudo minstall 
--no-media-check'. It installed and is working. I went with the default 
runit/IceWM. 

Pretty much like 23 without the eeePC limitations. It did use 10.25 GiB of 
the 30 I gave it. 23 Base was under 4. 

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#88032

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-06-17 08:14 +0100
Message-ID<n9evqfFmcv5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88030
rbowman wrote:

> c186282 wrote:
> 
>> Can you still GET an eeePC ? 
> 
> You might be able to find one on eBay. iirc I bought mine in 2007 when
> they first came out. 
I dug out my Dell Mini 9 netbook, might still be OK if you're running in 
text mode, but screen resolution is very limiting (e.g. apps may have 
dialogues that don't even fit the monitor).  Also mini-PCIe IDE SSDs 
disappeared pretty quickly without getting any higher capacity.

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#88046

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-18 04:10 -0400
Message-ID<2fKcne0jWrbfNa73nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#88032
On 6/17/26 03:14, Andy Burns wrote:
> rbowman wrote:
> 
>> c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> Can you still GET an eeePC ? 
>>
>> You might be able to find one on eBay. iirc I bought mine in 2007 when
>> they first came out. 
> I dug out my Dell Mini 9 netbook, might still be OK if you're running in 
> text mode, but screen resolution is very limiting (e.g. apps may have 
> dialogues that don't even fit the monitor).  Also mini-PCIe IDE SSDs 
> disappeared pretty quickly without getting any higher capacity.

   I have an 'older' laptop - even has a DVD drive
   built in. Upgraded it a bit. It can SERVE fairly
   well now. IS big and heavy by modern standards.

   The easy upgrade was replacing the WD Blue with
   a Samsung 8xx series SATA SSD. Big improvement.
   It already had kind of a lot of RAM.

   DO kinda miss my EEE-PC however. JUST enough
   laptop, ran Linux perfectly.

   "MX" was the first Linux distro where Grub kinda
   understood the internal M2 drive and would install
   shit properly. The rest WOULD NOT. Different NOW,
   but now ain't THEN.

   EBay ... had issues with them. Won't play anymore.

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#88067

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-18 19:26 +0000
Message-ID<n9iv2eFaeprU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88046
On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 04:10:40 -0400, c186282 wrote:


>    I have an 'older' laptop - even has a DVD drive built in. Upgraded it
>    a bit. It can SERVE fairly well now. IS big and heavy by modern
>    standards.

I've got one of those stuffed away. iirc it runs XP. 

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#88044

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-18 03:20 -0400
Message-ID<xuqcnUVbGvumAa73nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#88030
On 6/17/26 03:00, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:55:26 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>    Can you still GET an eeePC ? Mine fell about three floors
>>     onto concrete ...
> 
> You might be able to find one on eBay. iirc I bought mine in 2007 when
> they first came out. At the time it was Linux only; windows came later.

   Bought mine about the same time - soon converted
   it to Linux.

   GOOD unit !

> Downloaded the antiX 26 full and brought it up in a VM. When I tried to
> install it said the iso was corrupt. Downloaded from another site. Same
> story. The live version ran so I opened a terminal and ran 'sudo minstall
> --no-media-check'. It installed and is working. I went with the default
> runit/IceWM.
> 
> Pretty much like 23 without the eeePC limitations. It did use 10.25 GiB of
> the 30 I gave it. 23 Base was under 4.

   Ah, Antix-26 ... DID manage to install it in VBox.

   Nice very tight distro. Some ICEWM variant as the
   primary GUI interface. Didn't love it - indeed there
   were no scroll bars for like terminal windows !

   Installed LXDE ... some issues on boot ... had to use
   like Alt-F1 or Ctrl-F1 or something to select the new
   desktop - F1 itself didn't work on my lap. Some weird
   box kept coming up later with like 15 desktops - did
   manage to make it go away. Now it's all cool.

   Antix can install in well under a gig. It's very tight.

   The latest 'full' version, alas, DOES come with the whole
   LibreOffice shit - had to manually remove. Nothing against
   Libre ... but we DON'T want/need it on everything. There
   MAY have been some tiny checkbox somewhere - didn't see it.

   Anyway, built it out - installed maybe every 'development'
   suite. Had to expand the virtual disk considerably. Use
   the tools in VBox - but then you have to use like GParted
   to enlarge the space the distro sees. Easy, but not one-step.

   Note the initial install - you get a choice of the "legacy
   kernel" or the "modern kernel". Strongly suggest the latter.
   32-bit is now kinda heavily 'depricated'. You CAN install
   an alleged 32 bit ... but they SAY a LOT of the current
   software won't work with it.

   Anyway, ANTIX is especially good because it starts out
   SO "minimal" - no bullshit or complications. You can
   then expand AS YOU NEED without all the usual distro
   baggage.

   My appraisal of Antix-26 - VERY GOOD.

   Oh, only had to dedicate TWO cpu cores in VBox
   and it's STILL snappy. WAY different than my
   Endeavour install yesterday. (that ALSO works
   well, but hogs a LOT more CPU/mem)

   So, if you want desktops/servers/whatever based on
   Deb ... ANTIX26 may be your best starting point.
   Sure, many other, MUCH fatter, distros, but then
   you get a mega-dose of what THEY think is 'important'.

   Despite propaganda, Deb makes for GREAT servers.
   CAN be very tight/fast - To The Point.

   Anyway ... if you think MX is "too" - then ANTIX !

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#88064

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-18 18:45 +0000
Message-ID<n9isn6FaeprU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88044
On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 03:20:18 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Note the initial install - you get a choice of the "legacy kernel" or
>    the "modern kernel". Strongly suggest the latter.
>    32-bit is now kinda heavily 'depricated'. You CAN install an alleged
>    32 bit ... but they SAY a LOT of the current software won't work with
>    it.

I went with the 'modern' kernel, though 6.6 isn't very modern. The host 
Leap 16 is 6.12 as is MX. However it works.


>    Anyway, ANTIX is especially good because it starts out SO "minimal" -
>    no bullshit or complications. You can then expand AS YOU NEED without
>    all the usual distro baggage.
> 
>    My appraisal of Antix-26 - VERY GOOD.

I'd add an asterisk -- if you're on an older system with RAM and processor 
limitations. IceWM is usable, certainly more than fluxbox, but lacks the 
polish of Xfce. The 23 Base package was more 'build it out as you want 
it'. If I'm going to get LibreOffice and other stuff in Full that I don't 
use I'd rather go with MX for an older box like my 2011 Acer netbook. For 
an out of the box install I like it better than the Mint Xfce I looked a 
briefly. 

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#88042

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-17 15:50 -0700
Message-ID<20260617155008.0000283b@gmail.com>
In reply to#88027
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:55:26 -0400
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> > It works on the eeePC but there are obvious limitations because of
> > the hardware. I'll put 26 up in a VM on the Thinkpad T480 to give
> > it a fairer trial.  
> 
> Can you still GET an eeePC ? Mine fell about three floors onto
> concrete ....
> 
> It was a GREAT little laptop though !

Absolute tanks. Mine fell from the roof of my car onto a freeway on-
ramp at ~20 MPH and came out with no worse than a lightly-cracked and
heavily-scuffed case, lasted another ~8 yrs. before succumbing to a
board failure. Bought another used, which has been chugging along ever
since, though it's in need of a replacement PSU jack and battery ATM.

Nobody but *nobody* solved the laptop-hinge problem like Asus did on
those first couple Eee generations. Oneathesedays, maybe when this one
gives up the ghost, I oughta figure out how to rip out the guts and
stuff a little ARM SBC in there...

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#88054

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-18 04:53 -0400
Message-ID<2fKcne8jWrasL673nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#88042
On 6/17/26 18:50, John Ames wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:55:26 -0400
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>>> It works on the eeePC but there are obvious limitations because of
>>> the hardware. I'll put 26 up in a VM on the Thinkpad T480 to give
>>> it a fairer trial.
>>
>> Can you still GET an eeePC ? Mine fell about three floors onto
>> concrete ....
>>
>> It was a GREAT little laptop though !
> 
> Absolute tanks. Mine fell from the roof of my car onto a freeway on-
> ramp at ~20 MPH and came out with no worse than a lightly-cracked and
> heavily-scuffed case, lasted another ~8 yrs. before succumbing to a
> board failure. Bought another used, which has been chugging along ever
> since, though it's in need of a replacement PSU jack and battery ATM.
> 
> Nobody but *nobody* solved the laptop-hinge problem like Asus did on
> those first couple Eee generations. Oneathesedays, maybe when this one
> gives up the ghost, I oughta figure out how to rip out the guts and
> stuff a little ARM SBC in there...
> 

   The three-floor drop totally KILLED mine alas.

   Was using it to align some roof-line security
   cameras and .....

   But, regardless, it WAS a great little laptop
   and ran Linux perfectly.

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#88009

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-16 17:52 +0000
Message-ID<n9dgqaFeu80U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88001
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 03:39:44 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Well, mirrors, it's not just YOUR speed, it's how well their software
>    delivers, how much bandwidth THEY have and how much they allocate to
>    any one user.

I go the StarLink kit yesterday and set it up. speedtest.net shows 41 Mbps 
down, 21 uo. The Verizon wireless shows 10.5 down, 0.21 up. 

speed.cloudflare.com may be more realistic and shows 30/10 for StarLink, 
3.32 Mbps/221 kbps for Verizon.

That's from the Fedora box. The speed test from the StarLink app show 101 
Mbps down. The SUSE laptop showed 105 down. 

The app shows no obstructions and the dish is oriented correctly. Despite 
the varying speed tests it is faster than Verizon. 

I also moved the Fire TV to StarLink. Neither SUSE or Fedora has a large 
update so I can't get a feeling for that difference. The Mint laptop 
updated and seemed a little snappier. It's showing 46.4 down, 11.2 up.

The router does have an Ethernet port. I'll pick up a cable and see if the 
WiFi chips in the different machine are the difference. That may also 
allow me to create a bridge for the VM.

I'll run the two in parallel for a while but faster speeds and $40 / month 
makes MuskNet attractive for me.

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#88022

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-16 23:19 -0400
Message-ID<6UydnRO_f_Xqj6_3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#88009
On 6/16/26 13:52, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 03:39:44 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Well, mirrors, it's not just YOUR speed, it's how well their software
>>     delivers, how much bandwidth THEY have and how much they allocate to
>>     any one user.
> 
> I go the StarLink kit yesterday and set it up. speedtest.net shows 41 Mbps
> down, 21 uo. The Verizon wireless shows 10.5 down, 0.21 up.

   Useful info !!!

   SINCE they seem to have added an antenna, my 5G speed
   has been vastly better than before ... fast.com shows
   23 and 37 mbps now ... used to be like THREE at best,
   worse than my old DSL. So NOW I feel like I'm getting
   what I paid for ... over a year later ....

   CloudFlare sez 28 ... but it's not picking very local
   servers for testing.

   In any case, yer StarLink speed is "very usable" except
   maybe for 8k streaming. I never do that anyway. No, not
   cable/fiber gigabit+, but not sure WHO really needs that
   much speed - online gamers or a medium biz maybe ?

   Really really MAY pay for StarLink as an "auxillary/emergency"
   connection. NOT sure I've seen an "unlimited" acct category
   however - but for an 'emergency' I don't NEED that.

   Elon needs to start deploying WORKING StarLink-NextGen
   sats during his StarShip tests. THAT much seems to
   work OK.

> speed.cloudflare.com may be more realistic and shows 30/10 for StarLink,
> 3.32 Mbps/221 kbps for Verizon.
> 
> That's from the Fedora box. The speed test from the StarLink app show 101
> Mbps down. The SUSE laptop showed 105 down.

   Note company apps ALWAYS exaggerate the shit
   out of the speed  :-)

> The app shows no obstructions and the dish is oriented correctly. Despite
> the varying speed tests it is faster than Verizon.
> 
> I also moved the Fire TV to StarLink. Neither SUSE or Fedora has a large
> update so I can't get a feeling for that difference. The Mint laptop
> updated and seemed a little snappier. It's showing 46.4 down, 11.2 up.
> 
> The router does have an Ethernet port. I'll pick up a cable and see if the
> WiFi chips in the different machine are the difference. That may also
> allow me to create a bridge for the VM.
> 
> I'll run the two in parallel for a while but faster speeds and $40 / month
> makes MuskNet attractive for me.

   My 5G router has a couple of hardwire ports. Alas,
   and I've TRIED, they won't access the net. Anyway,
   as said, my house is very wiring-unfriendly regardless
   and I'm way too old to try to squeeze into tiny spider-
   infested cracks and crevices in the 'attic'. WiFi
   extenders work.

   What's NEEDED is a "centipede-bot" - maybe an inch
   across and 12-16 long, capable of getting into most
   any crack and dragging at least a pull-wire behind.
   I can kinda see the mechanics and software, the
   power supply is a bit more iffy ... might have to
   have a supply cable attached to its butt.

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#88031

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-17 07:07 +0000
Message-ID<n9eve5Fm4idU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88022
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:19:35 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Really really MAY pay for StarLink as an "auxillary/emergency"
>    connection. NOT sure I've seen an "unlimited" acct category however -
>    but for an 'emergency' I don't NEED that.

I went for the basic residential that they claim up to 100 mbps. They 
tweaked the plans after the IPO but mine is $55/month and no upfront cost 
for the dish, router, and power supply. The hardest part of the 
installation was drilling the 5/8 hole for the ethernet cable. The 50' 
ethernet cable. Just what I needed another big ball of wire. There are 
different mounts but I'm using the 'kickstand' that comes with the dish. 

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#88038

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-17 11:06 +0100
Message-ID<110trjj$1os2e$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88031
On 17/06/2026 08:07, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:19:35 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Really really MAY pay for StarLink as an "auxillary/emergency"
>>     connection. NOT sure I've seen an "unlimited" acct category however -
>>     but for an 'emergency' I don't NEED that.
> 
> I went for the basic residential that they claim up to 100 mbps. They
> tweaked the plans after the IPO but mine is $55/month and no upfront cost
> for the dish, router, and power supply. The hardest part of the
> installation was drilling the 5/8 hole for the ethernet cable. The 50'
> ethernet cable. Just what I needed another big ball of wire. There are
> different mounts but I'm using the 'kickstand' that comes with the dish.

An extremely affordable service then.


-- 
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have 
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

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#88045

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-18 04:02 -0400
Message-ID<2fKcnfIjWrbDO673nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#88031
On 6/17/26 03:07, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 23:19:35 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Really really MAY pay for StarLink as an "auxillary/emergency"
>>     connection. NOT sure I've seen an "unlimited" acct category however -
>>     but for an 'emergency' I don't NEED that.
> 
> I went for the basic residential that they claim up to 100 mbps. They
> tweaked the plans after the IPO but mine is $55/month and no upfront cost
> for the dish, router, and power supply. The hardest part of the
> installation was drilling the 5/8 hole for the ethernet cable. The 50'
> ethernet cable. Just what I needed another big ball of wire. There are
> different mounts but I'm using the 'kickstand' that comes with the dish.


   This is all Very Useful Info !!!

   Oh, DID buy some long concrete drills lately ... in case
   I needed (may SOON need) a DISH TV connection. Could also
   drill for StarLink.

   Oh ... sounds like there's an outdoor antenna of
   sorts. HOW big ? WHERE does it point (if anywhere) ?

   My old old Comcast wire comes in from a pole on the
   side of my property. In the late 70s it went over
   small trees/bushes. Since then, they grew into HUGE
   trees and bushes. I'd attach a photo but it's TOO
   depressing.

   Tree company said $2500+ minimum to clear a new path
   and would NOT guarentee the wire would not be destroyed
   in the process. Basically a bunch of quasi-legals going
   nuts with chain saws. Took nearly a MONTH to get someone at
   Comcast who COULD understand that the physical wire was
   broken, NOT in their diags book. Kept wanting to replace
   my box. NOT the problem ! "Cable" doesn't work without
   the damned CABLE.

   Clue - be CIVIL and POLITE with the techs in Bangalore
   and they will, eventually, boost you to a US tech who
   will immediately understand the issue and send a crew.

   Now it's under a huge mass of tree limbs, then finally
   up to where I bungee-corded it to a taller tree. Horrible.
   Not viable for the future. Amazed it's lasted THIS long.

   After - DISH TV. Much cheaper than $2500+

   DO love conventional channel surfing. All-Net
   programming doesn't really offer that.

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#88063

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-06-18 18:26 +0000
Message-ID<MLWYR.161412$Hs3.46676@fx35.iad>
In reply to#88045
On 2026-06-18, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

>    Tree company said $2500+ minimum to clear a new path
>    and would NOT guarentee the wire would not be destroyed
>    in the process. Basically a bunch of quasi-legals going
>    nuts with chain saws. Took nearly a MONTH to get someone at
>    Comcast who COULD understand that the physical wire was
>    broken, NOT in their diags book. Kept wanting to replace
>    my box. NOT the problem ! "Cable" doesn't work without
>    the damned CABLE.

BTDT after construction workers across the street tore out
our connection.

>    Clue - be CIVIL and POLITE with the techs in Bangalore
>    and they will, eventually, boost you to a US tech who
>    will immediately understand the issue and send a crew.

Also, be patient and persistent.  Try to resolve one
problem at a time, and be prepared to call back another
time if you can't get the tech to look at a second problem.
Think of it as a process of stepwise refinement.  Have a
phone on which you can comfortably stay on hold for an
hour or so, and call when you have other stuff you can
do while you're waiting.  When you do get a live person
on the line, keep him there until you've resolved as much
as you can without losing your cool.

Be sure you have time to spare before starting.

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#88066

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-18 19:23 +0000
Message-ID<n9iuthFaeprU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88045
On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 04:02:36 -0400, c186282 wrote:


>    Oh, DID buy some long concrete drills lately ... in case I needed
>    (may SOON need) a DISH TV connection. Could also drill for StarLink.

Lucky me, no concrete. A 5/8 spade and 5/8 hole saw got the job done. The 
boot on the connector just fits. 

>    Oh ... sounds like there's an outdoor antenna of sorts. HOW big ?
>    WHERE does it point (if anywhere) ?

23.4 x 15.07 in 

https://www.starlinkinfo.com/starlink-dish-size

There are several options but the Standard 4 is the latest. It comes with 
a kickstand. There are other mounting techniques but I have a flat area 
where the kickstand works well. So far I laid an old bike battery on the 
kickstand but there are two holes in the kickstand. I'll see how it works 
but may mount it to a piece of plywood I had laying around and add a few 
more batteries for more weight. Bikes tend to go through batteries so I 
have a good supply.

There is a phone app that's used to set it up. Even without the dish the 
app allows you to scan the sky and determine a suitable area. Unlike the 
geosynch dishes in the northern hemisphere you point it north. I initially 
pointed it a 45 degrees. The app has an alignment page that said it was 
good. If not, it shows the correct alignment.

You can also connect to 192.168.100.1.  That's a little more detailed and 
said 30 degrees would be better. I didn't notice much improvement for 
download speeds, ping times, or latency.  

speedtest.net shows 40 Mbps down on the older Dell box with Fedora, 101 
Mbps on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. I'm thinking the difference is the 
older WiFi chip. I've got an Ethernet cable coming today to see if a 
direct connection gets it up to full advertised speed. 

Someone asked how much people were downloading a month on the starlink 
subreddit. Many said they were using 1+ TB. Games, continuously streaming 
4K, and so forth. With my current Verizon 100 GB plan I've only gotten 
emial that I was getting close a couple of times, but I did watch the 
usage and deferred iso downlads or release updates to the end of the month 
period.

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#87990

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-15 08:01 +0000
Message-ID<110obhj$6u7d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87982
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 07:23:36 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> That's why i tried the USA mirrors too, they are just as fast to me
> as the UK ones, I suspect the problem is the internet connection
> between the USA mirrors (mostly big .edu) and your ISP ...

Is a torrent available? That would spread the bandwidth load among
multiple peers.

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#87986

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-15 07:00 +0000
Message-ID<n99m7tFrbe7U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87978
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 01:34:09 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Crappy mirrors HAVE become a problem of late,
>    and not just for MX. Set up a generic Deb a few months ago ... again
>    HORRIBLE US mirrors.

I've had problems with VS Code from the MS repository. When I finally get 
it installed I lock the package so updates don't time out on that one.

With Endeavouur the LA mirror always ranked at the top of the list using 
the tool, never worked well in practice. I'd manually remove it from the 
list.

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#87974

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-14 23:05 -0400
Message-ID<5CWdnW1P9p258bL3nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#87964
On 6/14/26 14:20, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 10:33:51 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
>> c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> rbowman wrote:
>>>>> I finally got an iso downloaded and installed. From my experience
>>>> the MX mirrors are crap. I finally found one that sowed the download
>>>> in less than an hour instead of hours if not days.
>>>
>>>     Agree about the slow mirrors. It's not you, it's them.
>> I picked a UK one and it was able to saturate my connection, 3 GB in
>> just under 6 minutes
> 
> You're lucky, I don't have the fastest connection but the US mirrors were
> ridiculous. r/MXLinux isn't very active but I did see a post where someone
> wondered why a mirror halfway around the world was better than the US
> ones.

   Try the mirror for "Tribblix/Solaris" - makes
   the MX mirrors look FAST !  :-)

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#87969

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-14 22:32 -0400
Message-ID<xFSdna16L8rd-bL3nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87957
On 6/14/26 05:33, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
> c186282 wrote:
> 
>> rbowman wrote:
>> >> I finally got an iso downloaded and installed. From my experience
>>> the MX mirrors are crap. I finally found one that sowed the
>>> download in less than an hour instead of hours if not days.
>>
>>    Agree about the slow mirrors. It's not you, it's them.
> I picked a UK one and it was able to saturate my connection, 3 GB in 
> just under 6 minutes

   Wow !!!

   Not the same experience in most of the USA - and I've
   tried different mirrors.

   Attempting to download a Solaris deriv called "Tribblix"
   right now. Makes the MX mirrors look super speedy  :-)

   Anyway, MX, try it out. I can't see how you would be
   disappointed - they really did polish-up a jewel.

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#87981

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-06-15 07:21 +0100
Message-ID<n99jumFr2lhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87969
c186282 wrote:

>    Anyway, MX, try it out. I can't see how you would be

I'm just about to try a move from fedora with gnome, to the kde plasma 
spin, so far only looked at the live DVD but basically every thing works 
and I like the look ... rbowman mentioned xfce which I used to use on a 
less powerful media PC ...

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