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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2026-05-26 02:21 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-05-26 17:21 +0200 |
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Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 02:21 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 08:46 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-26 09:49 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:47 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:25 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-26 09:53 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:38 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:35 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-26 22:09 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 16:17 -0700
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-27 00:02 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-27 00:11 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-28 10:32 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 08:41 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-27 11:04 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:31 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 09:18 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:42 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 15:01 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 21:34 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 11:07 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 12:55 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 12:14 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 13:36 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 13:26 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:36 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 17:24 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:37 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:36 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 22:34 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 04:29 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:09 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 23:29 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-05-31 21:45 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:15 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 18:53 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-02 01:46 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 03:01 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:12 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:16 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:09 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 21:26 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:48 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:35 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 17:25 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 03:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:34 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 16:06 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 20:20 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:27 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:30 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 19:24 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 20:04 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:25 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:15 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:36 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 02:19 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:34 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-04 08:18 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:48 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:36 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 17:58 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 14:56 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 22:07 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 22:18 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 03:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:29 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 07:06 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 04:11 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 17:17 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:10 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:16 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:46 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 00:13 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-05 03:12 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:25 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 19:54 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:37 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 19:18 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:42 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 04:26 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-06 03:10 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:41 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:52 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 20:03 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:16 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 11:47 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:20 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:59 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 19:27 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:50 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 23:38 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 06:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 03:05 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:52 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:33 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:19 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 10:50 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:45 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 19:29 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:19 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:02 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 03:14 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:25 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-11 03:09 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:03 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:09 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:08 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 02:30 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-12 18:52 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 19:00 +0000
Public toilets (Re: Redundancy/Survival) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-06-10 06:02 -0700
Re: Public toilets (Re: Redundancy/Survival) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-10 19:55 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 00:13 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:10 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:36 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 02:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 20:12 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:11 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 03:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 01:47 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 02:58 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 11:11 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 22:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 22:32 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 02:33 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:57 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:31 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-09 21:58 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-10 19:39 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 02:59 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:38 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:09 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 02:34 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:01 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 00:33 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-29 04:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:34 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:36 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 00:38 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 05:09 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 03:10 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 07:14 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 00:49 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-01 04:57 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 03:20 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 19:45 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 18:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:27 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 10:49 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 13:16 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:00 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:43 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:35 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 18:25 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 21:36 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:06 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:32 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:43 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 13:05 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:14 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:31 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:43 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 19:28 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 20:10 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:27 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:13 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-03 18:58 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:46 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 19:00 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-02 17:44 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 17:54 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 16:57 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 21:02 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:41 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:13 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:47 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 01:01 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 21:18 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:02 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:44 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:48 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:53 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:49 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 01:03 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 10:07 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:57 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 16:31 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 12:08 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 11:34 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 22:31 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:56 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:56 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:40 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 19:25 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-07 20:37 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 00:57 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:23 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:45 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:36 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 03:30 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:37 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:14 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:45 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 02:16 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 18:59 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:14 +0200
[OT] DVB-T offerings (was: Re: Redundancy/Survival) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 09:29 +0100
[OT] DVB nomenclature (was: Re: Redundancy/Survival) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:40 +0100
Re: [OT] DVB nomenclature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 18:56 +0200
Re: [OT] DVB nomenclature Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-10 18:36 +0100
Re: [OT] DVB nomenclature (was: Re: Redundancy/Survival) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 20:16 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:30 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 15:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:46 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 22:22 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 04:08 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:13 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:08 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:28 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:10 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:41 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:42 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 03:42 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 01:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:38 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 16:50 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:42 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 16:02 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:17 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-09 04:12 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:13 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 15:03 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 22:27 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 22:45 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 04:42 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 02:01 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:10 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 22:29 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:52 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 19:18 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 21:28 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-05 03:14 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:25 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 07:20 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 04:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-05 12:33 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-05 11:55 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-05 22:01 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 22:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:53 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 12:01 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:08 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 00:44 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-07 23:06 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 04:36 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:43 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:08 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:29 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 22:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:34 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 00:23 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:52 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:43 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:49 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:30 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:55 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:51 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:56 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 02:11 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 02:17 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 03:50 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 01:07 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:47 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 17:36 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:33 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:25 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 02:12 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:03 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:06 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:46 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:09 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:49 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:02 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:31 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 01:36 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:26 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 17:31 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:49 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:37 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-30 09:09 +1000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:17 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-31 07:33 +1000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 00:14 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 12:09 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 00:51 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:28 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-31 12:58 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-09 21:56 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-27 20:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 14:02 -0700
Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-28 08:54 +1000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-28 05:04 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:54 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-28 09:15 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:29 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:45 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-29 02:50 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:17 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 04:25 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:20 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-30 14:16 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-30 04:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 23:41 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 14:09 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:51 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-28 17:08 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 22:14 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 04:41 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:53 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:32 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:19 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:52 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:46 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 00:27 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 03:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 21:30 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:13 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 03:03 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:12 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:08 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:33 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:45 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:08 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:55 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:39 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 13:21 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:57 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 22:39 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 14:10 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-28 09:05 +1000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 08:19 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:52 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 09:20 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 20:34 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-05-28 21:07 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 19:12 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:28 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 12:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:19 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:30 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:29 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 16:49 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:18 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-02 17:38 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 15:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:39 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 17:55 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:03 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 12:22 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:36 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:39 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:48 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 01:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 02:08 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:41 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:23 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 23:00 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-26 09:44 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:45 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:38 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Worst Case" <fritz@spamexpire-202605.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-05-26 17:21 +0200
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-08 23:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <I_qcncFV2ZWFG7r3nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87687 |
On 6/8/26 03:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-06-08 02:52, Rich wrote: >> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 23:38:25 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> I go to the food store maybe every ten days to >>>> get a few items (now VERY expensive - but half of that is my fav, >>>> cashew nuts). It's always "10 items or less". Walk right by "self" >>>> and go to the 10-items lane instead. Get to say "Hi !", get to >>>> watch >>>> each item individually scanned by the employee. Get to say >>>> "THANKS !" >>>> and get a little smile. MUCH better. >>> >>> Most of the stores in town don't have a 'n items or less' aisle anymore. >> >> You know, now that you mention it, my local grocery no longer has a "N >> or less items" line as well. >> >> I hadn't noticed the omission yet, but it is no longer there. > > My big supermarket here, Carrefour, has converted the fast lane (baskets > only, no carts) to self checkout lane. 6 machines and one overseer. > Works fine. No, not REALLY. You WILL be claimed/charged/inconvenienced/blacklisted as a "shop-lifter" pretty soon. It'll COST YOU and don't expect to get much back. With face-ID the instant you arrive the store dick will be shadowing you, SURE you are sticking things into yer pockets. All they have to do is SAY you were, the cops will be on their side. Retailers are Big Money, you're NOT. Increasing lawsuits related are why WalMart and some others are REMOVING those 'self' lanes now. MORE lawsuits ! MANY more ! Meanwhile I'll use the 'under-10' or 'over-10' human tended lanes. Want humans, and cams, to see I'm being honest. Don't wear coats/similar in there either even if it's butt-freezin' cold. Yea, it's a kind of war now.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 10:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <om0lfmxelh.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87714 |
On 2026-06-09 05:19, c186282 wrote: > On 6/8/26 03:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-06-08 02:52, Rich wrote: >>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 23:38:25 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>> >>>>> I go to the food store maybe every ten days to >>>>> get a few items (now VERY expensive - but half of that is my fav, >>>>> cashew nuts). It's always "10 items or less". Walk right by "self" >>>>> and go to the 10-items lane instead. Get to say "Hi !", get to >>>>> watch >>>>> each item individually scanned by the employee. Get to say >>>>> "THANKS !" >>>>> and get a little smile. MUCH better. >>>> >>>> Most of the stores in town don't have a 'n items or less' aisle >>>> anymore. >>> >>> You know, now that you mention it, my local grocery no longer has a "N >>> or less items" line as well. >>> >>> I hadn't noticed the omission yet, but it is no longer there. >> >> My big supermarket here, Carrefour, has converted the fast lane >> (baskets only, no carts) to self checkout lane. 6 machines and one >> overseer. Works fine. > > No, not REALLY. > > You WILL be claimed/charged/inconvenienced/blacklisted > as a "shop-lifter" pretty soon. It'll COST YOU and don't > expect to get much back. With face-ID the instant you > arrive the store dick will be shadowing you, SURE you > are sticking things into yer pockets. All they have to > do is SAY you were, the cops will be on their side. > Retailers are Big Money, you're NOT. That's out in the colonies, not here :-P No, they can not use face-id on the public, it is against the GPDR. One place tried and they got a hefty fine. > > Increasing lawsuits related are why WalMart and some > others are REMOVING those 'self' lanes now. > > MORE lawsuits ! MANY more ! > > Meanwhile I'll use the 'under-10' or 'over-10' human > tended lanes. Want humans, and cams, to see I'm being > honest. Don't wear coats/similar in there either even > if it's butt-freezin' cold. > > Yea, it's a kind of war now. I often carry a bag into the supermarket with an insulated bag for frozen or cold products, and inside, a block of ice in a sealed plastic container. When I exit, I sometimes show it so that they know the bag already contains something heavy when empty. Most employees say something like "ah, don't bother". After several times being told "don't care", I stopped showing it unasked. Except a particular supermarket where they ask. It is a cooperative. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 11:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1108qsb$3sqtf$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87732 |
On 2026-06-09, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-06-09 05:19, c186282 wrote: >> On 6/8/26 03:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2026-06-08 02:52, Rich wrote: >>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 23:38:25 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I go to the food store maybe every ten days to >>>>>> get a few items (now VERY expensive - but half of that is my fav, >>>>>> cashew nuts). It's always "10 items or less". Walk right by "self" >>>>>> and go to the 10-items lane instead. Get to say "Hi !", get >>>>>> to watch >>>>>> each item individually scanned by the employee. Get to say >>>>>> "THANKS !" >>>>>> and get a little smile. MUCH better. >>>>> >>>>> Most of the stores in town don't have a 'n items or less' aisle >>>>> anymore. >>>> >>>> You know, now that you mention it, my local grocery no longer has a "N >>>> or less items" line as well. >>>> >>>> I hadn't noticed the omission yet, but it is no longer there. >>> >>> My big supermarket here, Carrefour, has converted the fast lane >>> (baskets only, no carts) to self checkout lane. 6 machines and one >>> overseer. Works fine. >> >> No, not REALLY. >> >> You WILL be claimed/charged/inconvenienced/blacklisted >> as a "shop-lifter" pretty soon. It'll COST YOU and don't >> expect to get much back. With face-ID the instant you >> arrive the store dick will be shadowing you, SURE you >> are sticking things into yer pockets. All they have to >> do is SAY you were, the cops will be on their side. >> Retailers are Big Money, you're NOT. > > That's out in the colonies, not here :-P > > No, they can not use face-id on the public, it is against the > GPDR. One place tried and they got a hefty fine. > >> >> Increasing lawsuits related are why WalMart and some >> others are REMOVING those 'self' lanes now. >> >> MORE lawsuits ! MANY more ! >> >> Meanwhile I'll use the 'under-10' or 'over-10' human >> tended lanes. Want humans, and cams, to see I'm being >> honest. Don't wear coats/similar in there either even >> if it's butt-freezin' cold. >> >> Yea, it's a kind of war now. > > I often carry a bag into the supermarket with an insulated bag for > frozen or cold products, and inside, a block of ice in a sealed > plastic container. When I exit, I sometimes show it so that they know > the bag already contains something heavy when empty. Most employees > say something like "ah, don't bother". After several times being told > "don't care", I stopped showing it unasked. > > Except a particular supermarket where they ask. It is a cooperative. A lot of places where I shop don't do that nowadays, although a decade or two ago some might have done that, but I will draw the line at whether they request it from everyone or just from specific containers. If they ask me about bags when people are around with purses and backpacks and aren't asked, or if they ask about my backpack when people with purses/handbags (maybe there's a better word for this...) don't get asked, you can imagine that's not something to be lightly accepted. I guess the push to reuse bags might also have changed habits in stores where staff used to inquire about their contents. There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into a supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from other shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they somehow expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go shop for something else, while the reality is that someone who's shopping for a few items on the way home might have their handbag/backpack/... and also a bag from the previous place they made business at. (I've, funnily, got more inquiries because of books, as some lending libraries have used tags that also trigger store alarms :-) ) -- Nuno Silva
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 19:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <84vlfmxdps.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87739 |
On 2026-06-09 12:45, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-06-09, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2026-06-09 05:19, c186282 wrote: >>> On 6/8/26 03:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-06-08 02:52, Rich wrote: >>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 23:38:25 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I go to the food store maybe every ten days to >>>>>>> get a few items (now VERY expensive - but half of that is my fav, >>>>>>> cashew nuts). It's always "10 items or less". Walk right by "self" >>>>>>> and go to the 10-items lane instead. Get to say "Hi !", get >>>>>>> to watch >>>>>>> each item individually scanned by the employee. Get to say >>>>>>> "THANKS !" >>>>>>> and get a little smile. MUCH better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most of the stores in town don't have a 'n items or less' aisle >>>>>> anymore. >>>>> >>>>> You know, now that you mention it, my local grocery no longer has a "N >>>>> or less items" line as well. >>>>> >>>>> I hadn't noticed the omission yet, but it is no longer there. >>>> >>>> My big supermarket here, Carrefour, has converted the fast lane >>>> (baskets only, no carts) to self checkout lane. 6 machines and one >>>> overseer. Works fine. >>> >>> No, not REALLY. >>> >>> You WILL be claimed/charged/inconvenienced/blacklisted >>> as a "shop-lifter" pretty soon. It'll COST YOU and don't >>> expect to get much back. With face-ID the instant you >>> arrive the store dick will be shadowing you, SURE you >>> are sticking things into yer pockets. All they have to >>> do is SAY you were, the cops will be on their side. >>> Retailers are Big Money, you're NOT. >> >> That's out in the colonies, not here :-P >> >> No, they can not use face-id on the public, it is against the >> GPDR. One place tried and they got a hefty fine. >> >>> >>> Increasing lawsuits related are why WalMart and some >>> others are REMOVING those 'self' lanes now. >>> >>> MORE lawsuits ! MANY more ! >>> >>> Meanwhile I'll use the 'under-10' or 'over-10' human >>> tended lanes. Want humans, and cams, to see I'm being >>> honest. Don't wear coats/similar in there either even >>> if it's butt-freezin' cold. >>> >>> Yea, it's a kind of war now. >> >> I often carry a bag into the supermarket with an insulated bag for >> frozen or cold products, and inside, a block of ice in a sealed >> plastic container. When I exit, I sometimes show it so that they know >> the bag already contains something heavy when empty. Most employees >> say something like "ah, don't bother". After several times being told >> "don't care", I stopped showing it unasked. >> >> Except a particular supermarket where they ask. It is a cooperative. > > A lot of places where I shop don't do that nowadays, although a > decade or two ago some might have done that, but I will draw the line at > whether they request it from everyone or just from specific > containers. > > If they ask me about bags when people are around with purses and > backpacks and aren't asked, or if they ask about my backpack when people > with purses/handbags (maybe there's a better word for this...) don't get > asked, you can imagine that's not something to be lightly accepted. > > I guess the push to reuse bags might also have changed habits in stores > where staff used to inquire about their contents. Indeed, it is a clearly reused shop bag. They had to change ways of acting when they asked us to use them. I don't make a fuss, if they want to see it, I show it it. > There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into a > supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from other > shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they somehow > expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go shop for > something else, while the reality is that someone who's shopping for a > few items on the way home might have their handbag/backpack/... and also > a bag from the previous place they made business at. And then they should have lockers available for everybody. > > > (I've, funnily, got more inquiries because of books, as some lending > libraries have used tags that also trigger store alarms :-) ) Ah! I had no idea about that. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 02:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1OKdnZ3WId0jnLT3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87742 |
On 6/9/26 13:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-06-09 12:45, Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2026-06-09, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> On 2026-06-09 05:19, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 6/8/26 03:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2026-06-08 02:52, Rich wrote: >>>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 23:38:25 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I go to the food store maybe every ten days to >>>>>>>> get a few items (now VERY expensive - but half of that is >>>>>>>> my fav, >>>>>>>> cashew nuts). It's always "10 items or less". Walk right by >>>>>>>> "self" >>>>>>>> and go to the 10-items lane instead. Get to say "Hi !", get >>>>>>>> to watch >>>>>>>> each item individually scanned by the employee. Get to say >>>>>>>> "THANKS !" >>>>>>>> and get a little smile. MUCH better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most of the stores in town don't have a 'n items or less' aisle >>>>>>> anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> You know, now that you mention it, my local grocery no longer has >>>>>> a "N >>>>>> or less items" line as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hadn't noticed the omission yet, but it is no longer there. >>>>> >>>>> My big supermarket here, Carrefour, has converted the fast lane >>>>> (baskets only, no carts) to self checkout lane. 6 machines and one >>>>> overseer. Works fine. >>>> >>>> No, not REALLY. >>>> >>>> You WILL be claimed/charged/inconvenienced/blacklisted >>>> as a "shop-lifter" pretty soon. It'll COST YOU and don't >>>> expect to get much back. With face-ID the instant you >>>> arrive the store dick will be shadowing you, SURE you >>>> are sticking things into yer pockets. All they have to >>>> do is SAY you were, the cops will be on their side. >>>> Retailers are Big Money, you're NOT. >>> >>> That's out in the colonies, not here :-P >>> >>> No, they can not use face-id on the public, it is against the >>> GPDR. One place tried and they got a hefty fine. >>> >>>> >>>> Increasing lawsuits related are why WalMart and some >>>> others are REMOVING those 'self' lanes now. >>>> >>>> MORE lawsuits ! MANY more ! >>>> >>>> Meanwhile I'll use the 'under-10' or 'over-10' human >>>> tended lanes. Want humans, and cams, to see I'm being >>>> honest. Don't wear coats/similar in there either even >>>> if it's butt-freezin' cold. >>>> >>>> Yea, it's a kind of war now. >>> >>> I often carry a bag into the supermarket with an insulated bag for >>> frozen or cold products, and inside, a block of ice in a sealed >>> plastic container. When I exit, I sometimes show it so that they know >>> the bag already contains something heavy when empty. Most employees >>> say something like "ah, don't bother". After several times being told >>> "don't care", I stopped showing it unasked. >>> >>> Except a particular supermarket where they ask. It is a cooperative. >> >> A lot of places where I shop don't do that nowadays, although a >> decade or two ago some might have done that, but I will draw the line at >> whether they request it from everyone or just from specific >> containers. >> >> If they ask me about bags when people are around with purses and >> backpacks and aren't asked, or if they ask about my backpack when people >> with purses/handbags (maybe there's a better word for this...) don't get >> asked, you can imagine that's not something to be lightly accepted. >> >> I guess the push to reuse bags might also have changed habits in stores >> where staff used to inquire about their contents. > > Indeed, it is a clearly reused shop bag. They had to change ways of > acting when they asked us to use them. > > I don't make a fuss, if they want to see it, I show it it. If they don't like yer face they'll SWEAR you stole it. Still have the paper receipt ??? :-)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 11:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vplnfmx1pa.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87781 |
On 2026-06-10 08:19, c186282 wrote: > On 6/9/26 13:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-06-09 12:45, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> On 2026-06-09, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> On 2026-06-09 05:19, c186282 wrote: >>>>> On 6/8/26 03:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2026-06-08 02:52, Rich wrote: >>>>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 23:38:25 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I go to the food store maybe every ten days to >>>>>>>>> get a few items (now VERY expensive - but half of that is >>>>>>>>> my fav, >>>>>>>>> cashew nuts). It's always "10 items or less". Walk right >>>>>>>>> by "self" >>>>>>>>> and go to the 10-items lane instead. Get to say "Hi !", get >>>>>>>>> to watch >>>>>>>>> each item individually scanned by the employee. Get to say >>>>>>>>> "THANKS !" >>>>>>>>> and get a little smile. MUCH better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most of the stores in town don't have a 'n items or less' aisle >>>>>>>> anymore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You know, now that you mention it, my local grocery no longer has >>>>>>> a "N >>>>>>> or less items" line as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hadn't noticed the omission yet, but it is no longer there. >>>>>> >>>>>> My big supermarket here, Carrefour, has converted the fast lane >>>>>> (baskets only, no carts) to self checkout lane. 6 machines and one >>>>>> overseer. Works fine. >>>>> >>>>> No, not REALLY. >>>>> >>>>> You WILL be claimed/charged/inconvenienced/blacklisted >>>>> as a "shop-lifter" pretty soon. It'll COST YOU and don't >>>>> expect to get much back. With face-ID the instant you >>>>> arrive the store dick will be shadowing you, SURE you >>>>> are sticking things into yer pockets. All they have to >>>>> do is SAY you were, the cops will be on their side. >>>>> Retailers are Big Money, you're NOT. >>>> >>>> That's out in the colonies, not here :-P >>>> >>>> No, they can not use face-id on the public, it is against the >>>> GPDR. One place tried and they got a hefty fine. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Increasing lawsuits related are why WalMart and some >>>>> others are REMOVING those 'self' lanes now. >>>>> >>>>> MORE lawsuits ! MANY more ! >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile I'll use the 'under-10' or 'over-10' human >>>>> tended lanes. Want humans, and cams, to see I'm being >>>>> honest. Don't wear coats/similar in there either even >>>>> if it's butt-freezin' cold. >>>>> >>>>> Yea, it's a kind of war now. >>>> >>>> I often carry a bag into the supermarket with an insulated bag for >>>> frozen or cold products, and inside, a block of ice in a sealed >>>> plastic container. When I exit, I sometimes show it so that they know >>>> the bag already contains something heavy when empty. Most employees >>>> say something like "ah, don't bother". After several times being told >>>> "don't care", I stopped showing it unasked. >>>> >>>> Except a particular supermarket where they ask. It is a cooperative. >>> >>> A lot of places where I shop don't do that nowadays, although a >>> decade or two ago some might have done that, but I will draw the line at >>> whether they request it from everyone or just from specific >>> containers. >>> >>> If they ask me about bags when people are around with purses and >>> backpacks and aren't asked, or if they ask about my backpack when people >>> with purses/handbags (maybe there's a better word for this...) don't get >>> asked, you can imagine that's not something to be lightly accepted. >>> >>> I guess the push to reuse bags might also have changed habits in stores >>> where staff used to inquire about their contents. >> >> Indeed, it is a clearly reused shop bag. They had to change ways of >> acting when they asked us to use them. >> >> I don't make a fuss, if they want to see it, I show it it. > > If they don't like yer face they'll SWEAR you > stole it. Only in the colonies :-P > > Still have the paper receipt ??? :-) Some places have it electronic. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <f_YVR.65228$GKib.46690@fx12.iad> |
| In reply to | #87739 |
On 2026-06-09, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: > There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into a > supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from other > shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they somehow > expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go shop for > something else, while the reality is that someone who's shopping for a > few items on the way home might have their handbag/backpack/... and also > a bag from the previous place they made business at. In cases like that I make sure I have the receipt from the previous shop handy and ready to display. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | No artificial \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | intelligence was X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | used in the creation / \ if you read it the right way. | of this post.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 03:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <p0-dnQXPWuRlk7T3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87749 |
On 6/9/26 14:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-06-09, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into a >> supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from other >> shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they somehow >> expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go shop for >> something else, while the reality is that someone who's shopping for a >> few items on the way home might have their handbag/backpack/... and also >> a bag from the previous place they made business at. > > In cases like that I make sure I have the receipt from the previous shop > handy and ready to display. I have giant bags/boxes of receipts, some back into the 80s. FINDING a PARTICULAR one though ... :-) Keep planning to sort through all those - never seem to get around to it. That'd take a week, or two, or three, or six ...... My heirs can just dump 'em all. Won't matter to ME anymore ! They're gonna REALLY love my house ... 70+ years of CRAP, mine, ours, plus all the shit from long-gone relatives and friends and people who came by for a few days and and and .................... BIG trucks will be required ! Need one of those original 12" video-disk players ? GOT one. Still works, I think. Probably a ZX-81 under The Heap too amongst LOTS of 'tech stuff'.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 19:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n8ts1nF104sU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87784 |
On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 03:14:45 -0400, c186282 wrote: > On 6/9/26 14:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2026-06-09, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into >>> a supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from >>> other shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they >>> somehow expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go >>> shop for something else, while the reality is that someone who's >>> shopping for a few items on the way home might have their >>> handbag/backpack/... and also a bag from the previous place they made >>> business at. >> >> In cases like that I make sure I have the receipt from the previous >> shop handy and ready to display. > > I have giant bags/boxes of receipts, some back into the 80s. FINDING > a PARTICULAR one though ... Receipts from retail purchases have a very short life with me. 'Do you want the receipt for that sack of Friskies?' Like the cats are going to bitch about food and I'd want to return it.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 03:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xFpWR.87147$PP1.78922@fx39.iad> |
| In reply to | #87815 |
On 2026-06-10, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 03:14:45 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> On 6/9/26 14:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2026-06-09, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into >>>> a supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from >>>> other shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they >>>> somehow expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go >>>> shop for something else, while the reality is that someone who's >>>> shopping for a few items on the way home might have their >>>> handbag/backpack/... and also a bag from the previous place they made >>>> business at. >>> >>> In cases like that I make sure I have the receipt from the previous >>> shop handy and ready to display. >> >> I have giant bags/boxes of receipts, some back into the 80s. FINDING >> a PARTICULAR one though ... > > Receipts from retail purchases have a very short life with me. 'Do you > want the receipt for that sack of Friskies?' Like the cats are going to > bitch about food and I'd want to return it. I just stuff them in my wallet, and clean them out every few days. They make great note paper. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | No artificial \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | intelligence was X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | used in the creation / \ if you read it the right way. | of this post.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 11:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <o8aqfmx65e.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87828 |
On 2026-06-11 05:09, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-06-10, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 03:14:45 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> On 6/9/26 14:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> On 2026-06-09, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into >>>>> a supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from >>>>> other shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they >>>>> somehow expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go >>>>> shop for something else, while the reality is that someone who's >>>>> shopping for a few items on the way home might have their >>>>> handbag/backpack/... and also a bag from the previous place they made >>>>> business at. >>>> >>>> In cases like that I make sure I have the receipt from the previous >>>> shop handy and ready to display. >>> >>> I have giant bags/boxes of receipts, some back into the 80s. FINDING >>> a PARTICULAR one though ... >> >> Receipts from retail purchases have a very short life with me. 'Do you >> want the receipt for that sack of Friskies?' Like the cats are going to >> bitch about food and I'd want to return it. > > I just stuff them in my wallet, and clean them out every few days. > They make great note paper. Huh, no, they don't. They often are special paper for thermal printers, and often ballpens slip on it. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 01:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <I-GcnYE-B91k37f3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87815 |
On 6/10/26 15:25, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 03:14:45 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> On 6/9/26 14:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> On 2026-06-09, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into >>>> a supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from >>>> other shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they >>>> somehow expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go >>>> shop for something else, while the reality is that someone who's >>>> shopping for a few items on the way home might have their >>>> handbag/backpack/... and also a bag from the previous place they made >>>> business at. >>> >>> In cases like that I make sure I have the receipt from the previous >>> shop handy and ready to display. >> >> I have giant bags/boxes of receipts, some back into the 80s. FINDING >> a PARTICULAR one though ... > > Receipts from retail purchases have a very short life with me. 'Do you > want the receipt for that sack of Friskies?' Like the cats are going to > bitch about food and I'd want to return it. For the shit I buy from 7-11 ... really don't need to keep 'em very long ... but I just automatically jam them into a stack and thus they REMAIN. Think of them as documentation for where I've been and when Just In Case. For more 'capital' purchases and some other items, DO keep 'em for a decade or more. Also have paperwork for stuff dead relatives bought. Anyway, kinda decided, will NEVER really thin them out. WAY too much work. Once I'm dead Somebody Else can toss them en-masse. Not My Problem anymore. "Well Mr. RBowman, can you account for where you were on June 17th 2003 at 2PM ??? Why NOT sir ??? WE assert you're hiding doing Evil Things then !!! PROVE your innocence or we will proceed with the State's conclusions !" Yea, it IS getting That Bad.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 11:08 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <qgaqfmx9me.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87835 |
On 2026-06-11 07:09, c186282 wrote: > On 6/10/26 15:25, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 03:14:45 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> On 6/9/26 14:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> On 2026-06-09, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into >>>>> a supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from >>>>> other shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they >>>>> somehow expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go >>>>> shop for something else, while the reality is that someone who's >>>>> shopping for a few items on the way home might have their >>>>> handbag/backpack/... and also a bag from the previous place they made >>>>> business at. >>>> >>>> In cases like that I make sure I have the receipt from the previous >>>> shop handy and ready to display. >>> >>> I have giant bags/boxes of receipts, some back into the 80s. FINDING >>> a PARTICULAR one though ... >> >> Receipts from retail purchases have a very short life with me. 'Do you >> want the receipt for that sack of Friskies?' Like the cats are going to >> bitch about food and I'd want to return it. > > For the shit I buy from 7-11 ... really don't need to > keep 'em very long ... but I just automatically jam > them into a stack and thus they REMAIN. Think of them > as documentation for where I've been and when Just In Case. > For more 'capital' purchases and some other items, DO keep > 'em for a decade or more. Reminds me. I normally write down the gasoline I buy into a calc sheet in my phone (thus using Google Calc). I also write down the number of kilometres and the litres used according to the car computer. But now google says it can not sync the last changes and has lost a month of entries. Now I want to find those paper slips! > > Also have paperwork for stuff dead relatives bought. > > Anyway, kinda decided, will NEVER really thin them out. > WAY too much work. Once I'm dead Somebody Else can toss > them en-masse. Not My Problem anymore. > > "Well Mr. RBowman, can you account for where you were > on June 17th 2003 at 2PM ??? Why NOT sir ??? WE assert > you're hiding doing Evil Things then !!! PROVE your > innocence or we will proceed with the State's conclusions !" > > Yea, it IS getting That Bad. The USA is crumbling. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-12 02:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1NqdnX7-U74ROrb3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87854 |
On 6/11/26 05:08, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-06-11 07:09, c186282 wrote: >> On 6/10/26 15:25, rbowman wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 03:14:45 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/9/26 14:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>> On 2026-06-09, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into >>>>>> a supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from >>>>>> other shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where >>>>>> they >>>>>> somehow expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go >>>>>> shop for something else, while the reality is that someone who's >>>>>> shopping for a few items on the way home might have their >>>>>> handbag/backpack/... and also a bag from the previous place they made >>>>>> business at. >>>>> >>>>> In cases like that I make sure I have the receipt from the previous >>>>> shop handy and ready to display. >>>> >>>> I have giant bags/boxes of receipts, some back into the 80s. >>>> FINDING >>>> a PARTICULAR one though ... >>> >>> Receipts from retail purchases have a very short life with me. 'Do you >>> want the receipt for that sack of Friskies?' Like the cats are going to >>> bitch about food and I'd want to return it. >> >> For the shit I buy from 7-11 ... really don't need to >> keep 'em very long ... but I just automatically jam >> them into a stack and thus they REMAIN. Think of them >> as documentation for where I've been and when Just In Case. >> For more 'capital' purchases and some other items, DO keep >> 'em for a decade or more. > > Reminds me. > > I normally write down the gasoline I buy into a calc sheet in my phone > (thus using Google Calc). I also write down the number of kilometres and > the litres used according to the car computer. > > But now google says it can not sync the last changes and has lost a > month of entries. Now I want to find those paper slips! > > > >> >> Also have paperwork for stuff dead relatives bought. >> >> Anyway, kinda decided, will NEVER really thin them out. >> WAY too much work. Once I'm dead Somebody Else can toss >> them en-masse. Not My Problem anymore. >> >> "Well Mr. RBowman, can you account for where you were >> on June 17th 2003 at 2PM ??? Why NOT sir ??? WE assert >> you're hiding doing Evil Things then !!! PROVE your >> innocence or we will proceed with the State's conclusions !" >> >> Yea, it IS getting That Bad. > > The USA is crumbling. Kinda, yea. The concept of "honesty" seems to have gone away. Stores now lose SO much to shoplifting and cheats that they're strongly into, and promoting, major totalitarian/authoritarian methods. Unwatched state GOVTs, Minnesota most prominently, have approved stealing many many BILLIONS. Complain and you'll be burnt at the stake as SOME kind of "-ist". It went from "stealing is wrong" to "stealing is easy" to "I just *deserve* giant bags of free stuff". Yea, Marxo-Leftism mostly. "Stick it to The Man !" So, USA, further 'left' or 'right' take-over ? It will be one or the other. 'Right' can be bad, but 'left' would be worse.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-12 18:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uzYWR.33756$0X2.15095@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #87881 |
On 2026-06-12, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > So, USA, further 'left' or 'right' take-over ? It > will be one or the other. 'Right' can be bad, but > 'left' would be worse. They all meet somewhere around on the dark side. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | No artificial \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | intelligence was X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | used in the creation / \ if you read it the right way. | of this post.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 19:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n8r65lFbsbqU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87739 |
On Tue, 09 Jun 2026 11:45:31 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > There's also a matter that a world where you're expected to walk into a > supermarket with nothing, no personal items and no products from other > shops, might also be a world with a car-centric view, where they somehow > expect people don't need to have stuff on them when they go shop for > something else, while the reality is that someone who's shopping for a > few items on the way home might have their handbag/backpack/... and also > a bag from the previous place they made business at. I've never been questioned but where I often shop there is a grocery store, Harbor Freight, and Staples and I've sometimes made purchases before going into the grocery store when I walked over from work. I have the receipts but it's pretty obvious the grocery store doesn't sell open end wrench sets next to the avocados. There are a couple of areas in town with high concentrations of homeless that are pickier. The biggest annoyance is the restrooms require a code that is printed on your receipt. It reminds me of a book I read long ago, 'Black Like Me'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me "In New Orleans, a black counterman at a small restaurant chatted with Griffin about the difficulties of finding a place to go to the bathroom, as facilities were segregated and blacks were prohibited from many. He turned a question about a Catholic church into a joke about "spending much of your time praying for a place to piss".
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 06:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Public toilets (Re: Redundancy/Survival) |
| Message-ID | <110bn9e$oipb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87753 |
On 2026-06-09 12:00, rbowman wrote:
...
> There are a couple of areas in town with high concentrations of
> homeless that are pickier. The biggest annoyance is the restrooms
> require a code that is printed on your receipt. It reminds me of a
> book I read long ago, 'Black Like Me'.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me
>
> "In New Orleans, a black counterman at a small restaurant chatted
> with Griffin about the difficulties of finding a place to go to the
> bathroom, as facilities were segregated and blacks were prohibited
> from many. He turned a question about a Catholic church into a joke
> about "spending much of your time praying for a place to piss".
At my age [76], this is a serious issue. If only they printed the code
on the receipts ...
Here in the land of coldhearted billionaires, we have enough homeless
people that most coffee shops and restaurant post signs in their windows
saying "no public restrooms". The public parks lock their toilets at
night. And the private park [2] where we walk our dogs (because it is
mostly free of ryegrass - "foxtails" [1]) keep their outhouses locked
unless there is a "special event". Only the buildings with the flush
toilets by the soccer fields and the baseball fields are open most
days - a 10 minute walk away from the meadow areas where I usually walk.
[1] My beagle snorted up a foxtail one morning this spring. By the time
it got extracted, we had run up 1400 dollars in vet bills.
[2] This is a 70 acre area, an old city dump nicely landscaped, which
the city turned over to a foundation to maintain. It is indeed
very well kept. They charge $145 per year per dog for dogs to
be allowed there, but allow well-behaved dogs to be off-leash.
With that you get free parking. On week-ends everyone else
pays $7/vehicle. They have 2 soccer/rugby/lacrosse/football
fields and 3 baseball/softball fields for youth sports, and
a small amfitheater and two party meadows that can be rented
for weddings. They recently got a $1M private grant to upgrade
the baseball fields, conditioned on them raising $200K from park
users.
--
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 19:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Public toilets (Re: Redundancy/Survival) |
| Message-ID | <sijWR.242745$_yL9.43869@fx47.iad> |
| In reply to | #87807 |
On 2026-06-10, Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote: > Here in the land of coldhearted billionaires, we have enough homeless > people that most coffee shops and restaurant post signs in their windows > saying "no public restrooms". The public parks lock their toilets at > night. And the private park [2] where we walk our dogs (because it is > mostly free of ryegrass - "foxtails" [1]) keep their outhouses locked > unless there is a "special event". Only the buildings with the flush > toilets by the soccer fields and the baseball fields are open most > days - a 10 minute walk away from the meadow areas where I usually walk. We have that here in Vancouver, which has its share of coldhearted billionaires. On the other hand, I once worked in an office tower downtown where you needed to get a key from the security guard to use the washroom on the mezzanine. I tried using the (not unlocked) washroom on the main floor once, but never again - it was as bad as the ones in the sleaziest skid-row hotels. This was, however, just after the city fathers, in their infinite wisdom, closed the liquor store that was in the bad part of town. They must have thought that this would cause all the drunks to magically disappear. And they did - by moving to the area around the next closest liquor store, which was across the street from the tower in which I was working. At least the old liquor store was around the corner from the cop shop so things were kept more or less under control. But the forces pushing gentrification seldom approach these things logically. Nowadays, if you can get into a washroom in those areas, you'll find that many are lit with black light. This is an attempt to discourage junkies, who can't see their veins in UV light. I know, the lack of readily-accessible washrooms is a pain. But if there's a simple solution to also keeping them clean and safe, I haven't heard it yet. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | No artificial \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | intelligence was X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | used in the creation / \ if you read it the right way. | of this post.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 00:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1OKdnWHXId39ebX3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87732 |
On 6/9/26 04:50, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-06-09 05:19, c186282 wrote: >> On 6/8/26 03:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2026-06-08 02:52, Rich wrote: >>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 23:38:25 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I go to the food store maybe every ten days to >>>>>> get a few items (now VERY expensive - but half of that is my fav, >>>>>> cashew nuts). It's always "10 items or less". Walk right by >>>>>> "self" >>>>>> and go to the 10-items lane instead. Get to say "Hi !", get to >>>>>> watch >>>>>> each item individually scanned by the employee. Get to say >>>>>> "THANKS !" >>>>>> and get a little smile. MUCH better. >>>>> >>>>> Most of the stores in town don't have a 'n items or less' aisle >>>>> anymore. >>>> >>>> You know, now that you mention it, my local grocery no longer has a "N >>>> or less items" line as well. >>>> >>>> I hadn't noticed the omission yet, but it is no longer there. >>> >>> My big supermarket here, Carrefour, has converted the fast lane >>> (baskets only, no carts) to self checkout lane. 6 machines and one >>> overseer. Works fine. >> >> No, not REALLY. >> >> You WILL be claimed/charged/inconvenienced/blacklisted >> as a "shop-lifter" pretty soon. It'll COST YOU and don't >> expect to get much back. With face-ID the instant you >> arrive the store dick will be shadowing you, SURE you >> are sticking things into yer pockets. All they have to >> do is SAY you were, the cops will be on their side. >> Retailers are Big Money, you're NOT. > > That's out in the colonies, not here :-P > > No, they can not use face-id on the public, it is against the GPDR. One > place tried and they got a hefty fine. USA you can use face-ID on any one any time. The State MAY sometimes be somewhat restricted but commercial entities can do as they please. Our 'Bill Of Rights' applies to citizen-vs-State, not citizen-vs-citizen. >> Increasing lawsuits related are why WalMart and some >> others are REMOVING those 'self' lanes now. >> >> MORE lawsuits ! MANY more ! >> >> Meanwhile I'll use the 'under-10' or 'over-10' human >> tended lanes. Want humans, and cams, to see I'm being >> honest. Don't wear coats/similar in there either even >> if it's butt-freezin' cold. >> >> Yea, it's a kind of war now. > > I often carry a bag into the supermarket with an insulated bag for > frozen or cold products, and inside, a block of ice in a sealed plastic > container. When I exit, I sometimes show it so that they know the bag > already contains something heavy when empty. Most employees say > something like "ah, don't bother". After several times being told "don't > care", I stopped showing it unasked. Ah, so you ARE concerned about false accusations ... ! > Except a particular supermarket where they ask. It is a cooperative. Until they become sick of 'cooperative' ... It's not just USA ... in the past decades citizens are seen as the most sinister villains - which MAY be correct too often now - with the State seen almost as a high holy 'protector'. "Civility" has gone away, maybe by Plan it sometimes appears. A few recent news-making crimes in USA - now there are people, not SURE who they work for, screaming on the news that we need far MORE surveillance. The world of Orwell didn't have to be imposed. The All-Seeing Eye is no longer divine, but has a corporate logo printed on. This is NOT good. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin Well - We Are There. GUESS how this plays out.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 11:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <p8mnfmxt3c.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87775 |
On 2026-06-10 06:13, c186282 wrote: > On 6/9/26 04:50, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-06-09 05:19, c186282 wrote: >>> On 6/8/26 03:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-06-08 02:52, Rich wrote: >>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 23:38:25 -0400, c186282 wrote: ... >>>> My big supermarket here, Carrefour, has converted the fast lane >>>> (baskets only, no carts) to self checkout lane. 6 machines and one >>>> overseer. Works fine. >>> >>> No, not REALLY. >>> >>> You WILL be claimed/charged/inconvenienced/blacklisted >>> as a "shop-lifter" pretty soon. It'll COST YOU and don't >>> expect to get much back. With face-ID the instant you >>> arrive the store dick will be shadowing you, SURE you >>> are sticking things into yer pockets. All they have to >>> do is SAY you were, the cops will be on their side. >>> Retailers are Big Money, you're NOT. >> >> That's out in the colonies, not here :-P >> >> No, they can not use face-id on the public, it is against the GPDR. >> One place tried and they got a hefty fine. > > > > USA you can use face-ID on any one any time. The > State MAY sometimes be somewhat restricted but > commercial entities can do as they please. Our > 'Bill Of Rights' applies to citizen-vs-State, > not citizen-vs-citizen. > > >>> Increasing lawsuits related are why WalMart and some >>> others are REMOVING those 'self' lanes now. >>> >>> MORE lawsuits ! MANY more ! >>> >>> Meanwhile I'll use the 'under-10' or 'over-10' human >>> tended lanes. Want humans, and cams, to see I'm being >>> honest. Don't wear coats/similar in there either even >>> if it's butt-freezin' cold. >>> >>> Yea, it's a kind of war now. >> >> I often carry a bag into the supermarket with an insulated bag for >> frozen or cold products, and inside, a block of ice in a sealed >> plastic container. When I exit, I sometimes show it so that they know >> the bag already contains something heavy when empty. Most employees >> say something like "ah, don't bother". After several times being told >> "don't care", I stopped showing it unasked. > > Ah, so you ARE concerned about false accusations ... ! They don't accuse, just ask politely. :-) I prefer they ask and see, that they having a suspicion and put me on a list of suspects or something. > >> Except a particular supermarket where they ask. It is a cooperative. > > Until they become sick of 'cooperative' ... Cooperative is a type of enterprise. The owners are a cooperative of workers. They have partners and workers, all working. > > It's not just USA ... in the past decades citizens > are seen as the most sinister villains - which MAY > be correct too often now - with the State seen almost > as a high holy 'protector'. "Civility" has gone away, > maybe by Plan it sometimes appears. > > A few recent news-making crimes in USA - now there > are people, not SURE who they work for, screaming > on the news that we need far MORE surveillance. > > The world of Orwell didn't have to be imposed. > The All-Seeing Eye is no longer divine, but has > a corporate logo printed on. > > This is NOT good. > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase > a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor > Safety." - Benjamin Franklin > > Well - We Are There. GUESS how this plays out. Hum. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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