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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2026-05-26 02:21 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-05-26 17:21 +0200 |
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Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 02:21 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 08:46 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-26 09:49 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:47 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:25 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-26 09:53 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:38 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:35 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-26 22:09 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 16:17 -0700
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-27 00:02 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-27 00:11 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-28 10:32 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 08:41 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-27 11:04 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:31 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 09:18 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:42 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 15:01 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 21:34 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 11:07 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 12:55 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 12:14 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 13:36 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 13:26 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:36 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 17:24 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:37 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:36 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 22:34 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 04:29 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:09 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 23:29 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-05-31 21:45 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:15 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 18:53 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-02 01:46 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 03:01 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:12 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:16 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:09 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 21:26 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:48 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:35 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 17:25 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 03:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:34 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 16:06 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 20:20 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:27 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:30 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 19:24 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 20:04 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:25 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:15 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:36 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 02:19 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:34 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-04 08:18 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:48 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:36 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 17:58 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 14:56 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 22:07 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 22:18 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 03:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:29 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 07:06 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 04:11 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 17:17 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:10 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:16 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:46 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 00:13 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-05 03:12 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 04:26 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-06 03:10 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:41 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:52 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 20:03 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:16 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 11:47 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:20 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:59 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 23:38 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 06:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 03:05 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:36 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 02:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 20:12 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:11 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 03:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 01:47 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 02:58 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 11:11 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 22:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 22:32 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 02:33 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:57 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:31 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-29 04:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:34 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:36 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 00:38 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 05:09 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 03:10 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 07:14 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 00:49 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-01 04:57 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 03:20 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 19:45 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 18:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:27 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 10:49 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 13:16 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:00 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:43 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:35 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 18:25 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 21:36 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:06 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:32 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:43 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 13:05 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:14 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:31 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:43 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 19:28 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 20:10 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:27 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:13 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-03 18:58 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:46 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 19:00 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-02 17:44 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 17:54 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 16:57 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 21:02 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:41 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:13 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:47 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 01:01 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 21:18 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:02 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:44 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:48 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:53 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:49 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 01:03 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 10:07 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:57 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 16:31 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 12:08 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 11:34 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 22:31 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:56 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:56 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:40 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:13 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 15:03 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 22:27 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 22:45 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 04:42 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 02:01 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:10 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 22:29 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:52 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 19:18 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 21:28 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-05 03:14 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:25 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 07:20 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 04:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-05 12:33 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-05 11:55 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-05 22:01 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 22:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:53 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 12:01 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:08 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 00:23 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:52 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:43 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:49 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:30 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:55 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:51 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:56 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 02:11 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 02:17 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 03:50 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 01:07 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:47 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 17:36 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:33 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:25 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 02:12 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:03 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:06 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:46 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:09 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:02 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:31 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 01:36 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:26 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 17:31 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:49 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:37 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-30 09:09 +1000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:17 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-31 07:33 +1000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 00:14 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 12:09 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 00:51 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:28 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-31 12:58 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-27 20:51 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 14:02 -0700
Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-28 08:54 +1000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-28 05:04 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:54 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-28 09:15 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:29 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:45 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-29 02:50 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:17 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 04:25 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:20 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-30 14:16 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-30 04:00 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 23:41 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 14:09 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:51 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-28 17:08 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 22:14 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 04:41 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:53 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:32 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:19 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:52 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:46 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 00:27 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 03:26 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 21:30 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:13 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 03:03 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:12 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:08 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:33 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:45 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:08 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:55 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:39 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 13:21 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:57 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 22:39 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 14:10 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-28 09:05 +1000
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 08:19 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:52 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 09:20 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 20:34 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-05-28 21:07 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:40 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 19:12 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:28 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 12:15 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:19 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:30 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:29 +0100
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 16:49 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:18 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-02 17:38 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 15:48 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:39 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 17:55 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:03 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 12:22 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:36 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:39 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:48 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 01:21 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 02:08 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:41 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:23 +0000
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 23:00 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-26 09:44 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:45 -0400
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:38 +0200
Re: Redundancy/Survival "Worst Case" <fritz@spamexpire-202605.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-05-26 17:21 +0200
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 11:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <63a5fmxucn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87401 |
On 2026-06-03 04:29, InterLinked wrote: > On 6/2/2026 10:10 PM, Rich wrote: >> InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote: >>> and both are now a significant cost that consumers are now expected >>> to bear. >> >> Also true. They supply the original battery, but you get to pay to >> replace it when it wears out over time. And both wear out over time. >> The lead acid from being kept charged, the D cells from self discharge. > > Worse! They don't even supply the original battery! I had to buy my own > as well as the unit. And most people don't even bother and then are > surprised when their phone doesn't work when the power goes out. > > At one point the battery was low on my original battery and the ONT did > start beeping every 15 minutes, which was annoying. A Verizon tech > happened to be visiting for something else and he got a kick out of > seeing some vintage telephones around the home, so I got lucky and he > gave me a free replacement battery from the truck. Not sure if that was > any skin off his nose... but might have to fake a service call the next > time it runs low and see if I can pull the same trick! Here the normal thing is to connect traditional phones to the ONT. They maintain the fantasy that everything was as it were (and charge the same prices). Actually, if you ask them, it is not possible to connect real VoIP phones. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-04 19:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10vsj2n$k3v6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87418 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-06-03 04:29, InterLinked wrote: >> On 6/2/2026 10:10 PM, Rich wrote: >>> InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote: >>>> and both are now a significant cost that consumers are now expected >>>> to bear. >>> >>> Also true. They supply the original battery, but you get to pay to >>> replace it when it wears out over time. And both wear out over time. >>> The lead acid from being kept charged, the D cells from self discharge. >> >> Worse! They don't even supply the original battery! I had to buy my own >> as well as the unit. And most people don't even bother and then are >> surprised when their phone doesn't work when the power goes out. >> >> At one point the battery was low on my original battery and the ONT did >> start beeping every 15 minutes, which was annoying. A Verizon tech >> happened to be visiting for something else and he got a kick out of >> seeing some vintage telephones around the home, so I got lucky and he >> gave me a free replacement battery from the truck. Not sure if that was >> any skin off his nose... but might have to fake a service call the next >> time it runs low and see if I can pull the same trick! > > Here the normal thing is to connect traditional phones to the ONT. They > maintain the fantasy that everything was as it were (and charge the same > prices). Actually, if you ask them, it is not possible to connect real > VoIP phones. Same here with Verizon FIOS. My ONT has an ethernet port, a coax port for cable TV, and either a modular jack or screw down terminals for POTS wiring (or it might have both the modular jack and the screw down terminals). If I had their phone service, the ONT would act as the "central office" and provide the 48v standby, 60v RMS AC ring signal, and handle the D/A and A/D conversion from old analog POTS to however Verizon carries digitized voice phone data over FIOS when that feature is enabled. Effectively, the ONT is /acting like/ one of those POTS to VOIP adapters, just using whatever protocol Verizon uses behind the scenes to carry the data. That protocol might just be VOIP, it might be something else, needless to say, they do not tell customers what it is nor provide us any normal access into that part of the system.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-04 21:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <f709fmxarr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87515 |
On 2026-06-04 21:18, Rich wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2026-06-03 04:29, InterLinked wrote: >>> On 6/2/2026 10:10 PM, Rich wrote: >>>> InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote: >>>>> and both are now a significant cost that consumers are now expected >>>>> to bear. >>>> >>>> Also true. They supply the original battery, but you get to pay to >>>> replace it when it wears out over time. And both wear out over time. >>>> The lead acid from being kept charged, the D cells from self discharge. >>> >>> Worse! They don't even supply the original battery! I had to buy my own >>> as well as the unit. And most people don't even bother and then are >>> surprised when their phone doesn't work when the power goes out. >>> >>> At one point the battery was low on my original battery and the ONT did >>> start beeping every 15 minutes, which was annoying. A Verizon tech >>> happened to be visiting for something else and he got a kick out of >>> seeing some vintage telephones around the home, so I got lucky and he >>> gave me a free replacement battery from the truck. Not sure if that was >>> any skin off his nose... but might have to fake a service call the next >>> time it runs low and see if I can pull the same trick! >> >> Here the normal thing is to connect traditional phones to the ONT. They >> maintain the fantasy that everything was as it were (and charge the same >> prices). Actually, if you ask them, it is not possible to connect real >> VoIP phones. > > Same here with Verizon FIOS. My ONT has an ethernet port, a coax port > for cable TV, and either a modular jack or screw down terminals for > POTS wiring (or it might have both the modular jack and the screw down > terminals). > > If I had their phone service, the ONT would act as the "central office" > and provide the 48v standby, 60v RMS AC ring signal, and handle the D/A > and A/D conversion from old analog POTS to however Verizon carries > digitized voice phone data over FIOS when that feature is enabled. > > Effectively, the ONT is /acting like/ one of those POTS to VOIP > adapters, just using whatever protocol Verizon uses behind the scenes > to carry the data. That protocol might just be VOIP, it might be > something else, needless to say, they do not tell customers what it is > nor provide us any normal access into that part of the system. In my case, it is actually VoIP and you can connect to it on your computer. The details have been reverse engineered. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <IYZTR.138996$Grwb.101821@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #87401 |
On 2026-06-03, InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote:
> On 6/2/2026 10:10 PM, Rich wrote:
>
>> InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> and both are now a significant cost that consumers are now expected
>>> to bear.
>>
>> Also true. They supply the original battery, but you get to pay to
>> replace it when it wears out over time. And both wear out over time.
>> The lead acid from being kept charged, the D cells from self discharge.
>
> Worse! They don't even supply the original battery! I had to buy my own
> as well as the unit. And most people don't even bother and then are
> surprised when their phone doesn't work when the power goes out.
I bought some batteries, but they weren't
included - so I had to buy them again.
-- Stephen Wright
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 03:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1124fop.m89.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #87450 |
On 2026-06-03, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-06-03, InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote:
>
>> On 6/2/2026 10:10 PM, Rich wrote:
>>
>>> InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> and both are now a significant cost that consumers are now expected
>>>> to bear.
>>>
>>> Also true. They supply the original battery, but you get to pay to
>>> replace it when it wears out over time. And both wear out over time.
>>> The lead acid from being kept charged, the D cells from self discharge.
>>
>> Worse! They don't even supply the original battery! I had to buy my own
>> as well as the unit. And most people don't even bother and then are
>> surprised when their phone doesn't work when the power goes out.
>
> I bought some batteries, but they weren't
> included - so I had to buy them again.
> -- Stephen Wright
Then, there's a photo in circulation of a large glass jar labeled
Dead Batteries -- No Charge
--
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 00:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lNCcneABefAx0r_3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87525 |
On 6/4/26 23:14, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2026-06-03, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >> On 2026-06-03, InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote: >> >>> On 6/2/2026 10:10 PM, Rich wrote: >>> >>>> InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> and both are now a significant cost that consumers are now expected >>>>> to bear. >>>> >>>> Also true. They supply the original battery, but you get to pay to >>>> replace it when it wears out over time. And both wear out over time. >>>> The lead acid from being kept charged, the D cells from self discharge. >>> >>> Worse! They don't even supply the original battery! I had to buy my own >>> as well as the unit. And most people don't even bother and then are >>> surprised when their phone doesn't work when the power goes out. >> >> I bought some batteries, but they weren't >> included - so I had to buy them again. >> -- Stephen Wright > > Then, there's a photo in circulation of a large glass jar labeled > > Dead Batteries -- No Charge Heh Heh Heh ... Steven Wright did some good stuff :-) Mentioned one of his little bits at the dentists office awhile back - about him being annoyed with the tech always complaining - so he ate an entire box of Oreo cookies just before coming in. For SOME reason my tech didn't seem all that amused :-) Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such .... At minimum, tape 'em together and use them as weights for whatever. Hey, weights CAN be useful. Have a partial little bag of quick concrete mix ... sometimes make little 'bricks' out of it as bases for things. COULD buy real bricks at the store I suppose, but they're usually too big or small.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 07:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n8fbmiFl49dU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87531 |
On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in > the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such .... When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were good for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two screw terminals.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 04:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bKmcnaCEqMMyGL_3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87543 |
On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in >> the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such .... > > When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were good > for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were > even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two > screw terminals. Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!! :-) You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store. There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 12:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g8lafmxpdm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87545 |
On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote: > On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw >>> 'em in >>> the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such .... >> >> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were >> good >> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were >> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two >> screw terminals. > > Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!! :-) > > You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store. > > There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors > but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend > used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater. I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus of carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. About 65 Amps. Blinding white light! I think I have a sample as memsake. (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?) -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 11:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n8fo87Fotr8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87549 |
"Carlos E.R." wrote: > I think I have a sample as memsake. > (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?) keepsake, or memento.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dlFUR.38655$SHu9.16505@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #87549 |
On 2026-06-05, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote: > >> You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store. >> >> There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors >> but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend >> used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater. > > I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus of > carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. About 65 > Amps. Blinding white light! > > I think I have a sample as memsake. > > (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?) Around here the equivalent word is "keepsake". -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 22:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vhmbfmxq79.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87557 |
On 2026-06-05 21:21, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-06-05, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote: >> >>> You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store. >>> >>> There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors >>> but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend >>> used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater. >> >> I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus of >> carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. About 65 >> Amps. Blinding white light! >> >> I think I have a sample as memsake. >> >> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?) > > Around here the equivalent word is "keepsake". I must have mixed it up. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 22:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1eCcnWjfKdNOH773nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87549 |
On 6/5/26 06:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote: >> On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw >>>> 'em in >>>> the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such .... >>> >>> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were >>> good >>> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were >>> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had >>> two >>> screw terminals. >> >> Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!! :-) >> >> You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store. >> >> There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors >> but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend >> used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater. > > I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus of > carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. About 65 > Amps. Blinding white light! > > I think I have a sample as memsake. > > (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?) "Memsake" - sounds Japanese :-) Anyway, exactly the item. The thin copper kept oxygen from getting to anything but the working ends. It'd slowly vaporize once the REALLY hot bit progressed along. It was a dirty projection booth. But few were really there to watch the movie. Ah : https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/B0CZQZSY7H/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JFxjn5HyTd-WqpfBkk9aE5geO5ZyIwsklySCEhYt97bk2CyL5c8RULOSHI02VqgxMyC9uzGEyi9ieMm-3cipxM8iCXTbzGfP7Ret14GG8P4v4Skl8F6Nxfr-4ilEvx9C9J3djfmYN9j2PMeaU9tbYEnnuG3PBbBfIiIPOswQFZs0W4Sxs9P6WecX7JcTWyLyalmSTozbZkfU_TI26LxlYZBuJSsT_d7N4HCOEBQoxMATjZ3635cWVT7QzHhuXiMsDaQuw3TxGpBf7Qz8xUNJexASOLd-bKre2LxHiZ_s4ug.bAr4bg-jVSEc2ZuUjEAKDo_G4iy_Bv2OI7Ks59V28gk&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+carbon+rod&qid=1780710711&sr=8-6 Also another kind with a more square profile. My Dad briefly had a job as a projectionist in the early 30s - arc lamps and often NITRATE film. There's a reason those old projection booths were built like a pill-box.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-06 05:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n8hqu7F1g5uU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87562 |
On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 22:15:46 -0400, c186282 wrote: > "Memsake" - sounds Japanese Or memsahib.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-06 12:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1p7dfmxig7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87562 |
{Note Followups-To} ==== means ====> do not post on comp.os.linux.misc
On 2026-06-06 04:15, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/5/26 06:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw
>>>>> 'em in
>>>>> the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and
>>>>> such ....
>>>>
>>>> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They
>>>> were good
>>>> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones
>>>> were
>>>> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they
>>>> had two
>>>> screw terminals.
>>>
>>> Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!! :-)
>>>
>>> You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.
>>>
>>> There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
>>> but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
>>> used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.
>>
>> I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus
>> of carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper.
>> About 65 Amps. Blinding white light!
>>
>> I think I have a sample as memsake.
>>
>> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)
>
>
> "Memsake" - sounds Japanese :-)
>
> Anyway, exactly the item. The thin copper kept oxygen
> from getting to anything but the working ends. It'd
> slowly vaporize once the REALLY hot bit progressed
> along.
>
> It was a dirty projection booth.
We had an exhaust tube going up the roof.
>
> But few were really there to watch the movie.
>
> Ah :
>
> https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/
> B0CZQZSY7H/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JFxjn5HyTd-
> WqpfBkk9aE5geO5ZyIwsklySCEhYt97bk2CyL5c8RULOSHI02VqgxMyC9uzGEyi9ieMm-3cipxM8iCXTbzGfP7Ret14GG8P4v4Skl8F6Nxfr-4ilEvx9C9J3djfmYN9j2PMeaU9tbYEnnuG3PBbBfIiIPOswQFZs0W4Sxs9P6WecX7JcTWyLyalmSTozbZkfU_TI26LxlYZBuJSsT_d7N4HCOEBQoxMATjZ3635cWVT7QzHhuXiMsDaQuw3TxGpBf7Qz8xUNJexASOLd-bKre2LxHiZ_s4ug.bAr4bg-jVSEc2ZuUjEAKDo_G4iy_Bv2OI7Ks59V28gk&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+carbon+rod&qid=1780710711&sr=8-6
Amazing! They still sell them.
Ah, trick. With Amazon links, you can delete everyhing after the /dp/number.
https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/
B0CZQZSY7H
Then, you can also remove the name:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/ B0CZQZSY7H
The rest, is tracking information about you.
>
> Also another kind with a more square profile.
>
> My Dad briefly had a job as a projectionist in the
> early 30s - arc lamps and often NITRATE film. There's
> a reason those old projection booths were built like
> a pill-box.
>
Those could catch instant fire.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-07 05:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <cfycnaNCx9S3qLj3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87600 |
On 6/6/26 06:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
> {Note Followups-To} ==== means ====> do not post on comp.os.linux.misc
>
> On 2026-06-06 04:15, c186282 wrote:
>> On 6/5/26 06:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw
>>>>>> 'em in
>>>>>> the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and
>>>>>> such ....
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They
>>>>> were good
>>>>> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones
>>>>> were
>>>>> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they
>>>>> had two
>>>>> screw terminals.
>>>>
>>>> Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!! :-)
>>>>
>>>> You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.
>>>>
>>>> There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
>>>> but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
>>>> used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.
>>>
>>> I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus
>>> of carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper.
>>> About 65 Amps. Blinding white light!
>>>
>>> I think I have a sample as memsake.
>>>
>>> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)
>>
>>
>> "Memsake" - sounds Japanese :-)
>>
>> Anyway, exactly the item. The thin copper kept oxygen
>> from getting to anything but the working ends. It'd
>> slowly vaporize once the REALLY hot bit progressed
>> along.
>>
>> It was a dirty projection booth.
>
> We had an exhaust tube going up the roof.
>
>>
>> But few were really there to watch the movie.
>>
>> Ah :
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/
>> dp/ B0CZQZSY7H/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JFxjn5HyTd-
>> WqpfBkk9aE5geO5ZyIwsklySCEhYt97bk2CyL5c8RULOSHI02VqgxMyC9uzGEyi9ieMm-3cipxM8iCXTbzGfP7Ret14GG8P4v4Skl8F6Nxfr-4ilEvx9C9J3djfmYN9j2PMeaU9tbYEnnuG3PBbBfIiIPOswQFZs0W4Sxs9P6WecX7JcTWyLyalmSTozbZkfU_TI26LxlYZBuJSsT_d7N4HCOEBQoxMATjZ3635cWVT7QzHhuXiMsDaQuw3TxGpBf7Qz8xUNJexASOLd-bKre2LxHiZ_s4ug.bAr4bg-jVSEc2ZuUjEAKDo_G4iy_Bv2OI7Ks59V28gk&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+carbon+rod&qid=1780710711&sr=8-6
>
> Amazing! They still sell them.
>
> Ah, trick. With Amazon links, you can delete everyhing after the /dp/
> number.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/
> B0CZQZSY7H
>
> Then, you can also remove the name:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/ B0CZQZSY7H
>
> The rest, is tracking information about you.
True.
But so much editing is More Work than it's
usually worth.
>> Also another kind with a more square profile.
>>
>> My Dad briefly had a job as a projectionist in the
>> early 30s - arc lamps and often NITRATE film. There's
>> a reason those old projection booths were built like
>> a pill-box.
>>
>
> Those could catch instant fire.
Nitrate film could be a massive DISASTER.
If it lit ... RUN RUN RUN ! It'd burn down
the whole building.
The projectionist was SUPPOSED to slam shut
the STEEL door on exiting. Didn't always
happen ....
Nitrate persisted well into the '30s ...
not so much as new film, but as pre-feature
old fill-in films.
Arc lamps did NOT help the equation. Just a
few seconds of the film jamming and ......
Hmmm ... saw some old Italian movie not too
long ago. Everyone at the theater. The film
jammed for a few seconds - Oh The Horror !
And such surely happened more than once.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <flFUR.38657$SHu9.3135@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #87543 |
On 2026-06-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in >> the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such .... Around here recycling depots take them. I wouldn't want to use them as weights or whatever - lots of nasty chemicals start oozing out... > When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were good > for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were > even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two > screw terminals. No. 6 cells. My early electrical experiments started when I stole the pair that powered our doorbell. I might still have one of those carbon rods around somewhere. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-06 00:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n8h7kiF1g5uU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87559 |
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 19:21:47 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > No. 6 cells. My early electrical experiments started when I stole the > pair that powered our doorbell. I might still have one of those carbon > rods around somewhere. That's it, thanks. I could picture it but not put a name to it. I'm pushing the boundaries of memory but I think they were EverReadys with the cat logo. I've started watching the 'Unforgettable' series. I'm not her -- thank the Gods.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-06 18:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <x%ZUR.9652$8Em1.6959@fx42.iad> |
| In reply to | #87561 |
On 2026-06-06, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 19:21:47 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> No. 6 cells. My early electrical experiments started when I stole the >> pair that powered our doorbell. I might still have one of those carbon >> rods around somewhere. > > That's it, thanks. I could picture it but not put a name to it. I'm > pushing the boundaries of memory but I think they were EverReadys with the > cat logo. Yes! -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-06 00:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1eCcnWXfKdPjOL73nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87559 |
o On 6/5/26 15:21, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-06-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in >>> the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such .... > > Around here recycling depots take them. I wouldn't want to > use them as weights or whatever - lots of nasty chemicals start > oozing out... Depends. Mostly now I pay a little extra for the one-shot lithium batteries. Last a bit longer in service, last almost forever in storage, don't leak anything. Older acid/alk batts ... once saw a flashlight AT the hardware store that came with DuraCells. They were leaking inside the factory pack ! Bunny batts are better in this respect. >> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were good >> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were >> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two >> screw terminals. > > No. 6 cells. My early electrical experiments started when I stole > the pair that powered our doorbell. I might still have one of > those carbon rods around somewhere. Amazon does sell 'em - try "welding carbon rod" search. Apparently still used for "gouging". You'll want a good step-down transformer and PROTECTION if you wanna make big bright light.
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