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  Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-25 03:09 -0400
    Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-05-25 09:27 +0200
      Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-25 11:41 +0200
        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-25 23:45 -0400
    Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-25 18:29 +0000
      Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 00:17 -0400
        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 08:13 +0200
          Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 02:36 -0400
            Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 08:57 +0200
              Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 03:53 -0400
                Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-26 16:36 +0000
                Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 20:24 +0200
                  Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-26 21:55 +0000
                    Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-27 08:22 +0200
                      Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-27 02:48 -0400
                        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-27 10:59 +0200
                          Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:22 -0400
                            Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:30 +0200
                              Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 15:00 +0100
                                Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-28 17:28 +0200
                                  Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 16:36 +0100
                                    Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-28 18:02 +0000
                                      Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 21:50 -0400
                                        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 04:53 +0000
                                          Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-29 07:33 +0200
                                            Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:59 -0400
                                              Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-29 10:25 +0100
                                                Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 00:18 -0400
                                                  Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-31 12:49 +0200
                                            Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:49 +0000
                                          Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 02:41 -0400
                                Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 18:47 +0200
                                  Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 22:03 -0400
                      Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-27 07:23 +0000
                        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-27 11:01 +0200
                          Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:27 -0400
                            Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:32 +0200
                              Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 21:14 -0400
                        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:21 -0400
              Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-26 07:53 +0000
                Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:32 -0400
                  Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-26 16:40 +0000
                    Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 22:33 -0400
                      Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-27 03:38 +0000
                        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-27 00:27 -0400
                          Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-27 07:16 +0000
                            Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 02:08 -0400
                      Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-27 09:13 +0000
                        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:44 -0400
                          Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-28 17:40 +0000
                            Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 22:50 -0400
            Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-26 07:35 +0000
              Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:41 -0400
                Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-26 16:25 +0000
        Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-26 07:32 +0000

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#87235

On 28/05/2026 16:28, Marc Haber wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 28/05/2026 12:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>    HAMs ? They pre-date any of the modern politics.
>>>
>>> Around here we regulate everything.
>>
>> That's why we left the EU
> 
> You left the EU because your politicians lied to you. Or did they
> actually find the 320 million pounds per day and pour it into the NHS
> instead?
> 
They found a lot more actually, and put it ontpo the NHS

But yiu are right. Politicians lied to us. Those in the EU and 
supporting the EU said we would cease to exist.

Now it looks more like the EU will cease to exist.

-- 
"If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the 
news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

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#87239

On Thu, 28 May 2026 16:36:06 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Now it looks more like the EU will cease to exist.

I doubt it will have the lifespan of the Holy Roman Empire. 

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#87250

On 5/28/26 14:02, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2026 16:36:06 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Now it looks more like the EU will cease to exist.
> 
> I doubt it will have the lifespan of the Holy Roman Empire.


   Implosions are happening already - it's been ongoing
   for a couple decades at least. I think mostly the
   "leaders" get together to decide how to best HIDE it.

   Oddly, the end of the old Cold War was also the defeat
   of Europe. "Oh, nothing to worry about anymore ! Let's
   blow all our money on green bullshit and Free Money !
   Get all our stuff from Wonderful China !".

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#87257

On Thu, 28 May 2026 21:50:15 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> On 5/28/26 14:02, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 May 2026 16:36:06 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> Now it looks more like the EU will cease to exist.
>> 
>> I doubt it will have the lifespan of the Holy Roman Empire.
> 
> 
>    Implosions are happening already - it's been ongoing for a couple
>    decades at least. I think mostly the "leaders" get together to decide
>    how to best HIDE it.
> 
>    Oddly, the end of the old Cold War was also the defeat of Europe.
>    "Oh, nothing to worry about anymore ! Let's blow all our money on
>    green bullshit and Free Money ! Get all our stuff from Wonderful
>    China !".

Germany increased the self inflicted pain. 'We can't buy cheap gas and oil 
from those evil Russians because we support the most corrupt country on 
the European continent. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEcAIhs2I_4

There's a lot of history but the 21st century Germany sure as hell isn't 
the 20th century version. If you want to be the manufacturing powerhouse 
of Europe you don't shut off the power for some green fantasy.

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#87259

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>There's a lot of history but the 21st century Germany sure as hell isn't 
>the 20th century version. If you want to be the manufacturing powerhouse 
>of Europe you don't shut off the power for some green fantasy.

You should change your news source.

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#87262

On 5/29/26 01:33, Marc Haber wrote:
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> There's a lot of history but the 21st century Germany sure as hell isn't
>> the 20th century version. If you want to be the manufacturing powerhouse
>> of Europe you don't shut off the power for some green fantasy.
> 
> You should change your news source.

   Nah, he should KEEP his sources.

   YOU need to change ... quite a lot.

   The Reds ARE now winning the Cold War.
   Thought it was over ? NO !

   The 'future' for the EU/UK ... SLAVERY
   of the worst kind.

   You've cut off yer balls and put a noose
   around yer neck. How pitiful. How totally
   disappointing. No more spirit.

   Oh well, Euros GET what they VOTE for - even
   if it's absolute self destruction ......

   Do NOT expect the USA to bail you out this time.

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#87275

c186282 wrote:

>    Nah, he should KEEP his sources.
> 
>    YOU need to change ... quite a lot.
> 
>    The Reds ARE now winning the Cold War.
>    Thought it was over ? NO !
> 
>    The 'future' for the EU/UK ... SLAVERY
>    of the worst kind.
> 
>    You've cut off yer balls and put a noose
>    around yer neck. How pitiful. How totally
>    disappointing. No more spirit.
> 
>    Oh well, Euros GET what they VOTE for - even
>    if it's absolute self destruction ......
> 
>    Do NOT expect the USA to bail you out this time.

I can't help wondering how long it will be
UNTIL YOU'RE WRITING IN ALL CAPS?

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#87299

On 5/29/26 05:25, Andy Burns wrote:
> c186282 wrote:
> 
>>    Nah, he should KEEP his sources.
>>
>>    YOU need to change ... quite a lot.
>>
>>    The Reds ARE now winning the Cold War.
>>    Thought it was over ? NO !
>>
>>    The 'future' for the EU/UK ... SLAVERY
>>    of the worst kind.
>>
>>    You've cut off yer balls and put a noose
>>    around yer neck. How pitiful. How totally
>>    disappointing. No more spirit.
>>
>>    Oh well, Euros GET what they VOTE for - even
>>    if it's absolute self destruction ......
>>
>>    Do NOT expect the USA to bail you out this time.
> 
> I can't help wondering how long it will be
> UNTIL YOU'RE WRITING IN ALL CAPS?


   I CAN WRITE IN ALL CAPS IF I DAMNED WELL *WANT* TO !

   Otherwise, use of caps is a way to interject the
   sound/nuance of actually speaking into text. Some
   use italics instead, but everybody needs HTML to
   make that work right.

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#87313

On 2026-05-31 06:18, c186282 wrote:
>    I CAN WRITE IN ALL CAPS IF I DAMNED WELL *WANT* TO !

If you do, I stop reading.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87271

On Fri, 29 May 2026 07:33:29 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>There's a lot of history but the 21st century Germany sure as hell isn't
>>the 20th century version. If you want to be the manufacturing powerhouse
>>of Europe you don't shut off the power for some green fantasy.
> 
> You should change your news source.

To align with your views? I think not.

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#87269

On 5/29/26 00:53, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2026 21:50:15 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 5/28/26 14:02, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 May 2026 16:36:06 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now it looks more like the EU will cease to exist.
>>>
>>> I doubt it will have the lifespan of the Holy Roman Empire.
>>
>>
>>     Implosions are happening already - it's been ongoing for a couple
>>     decades at least. I think mostly the "leaders" get together to decide
>>     how to best HIDE it.
>>
>>     Oddly, the end of the old Cold War was also the defeat of Europe.
>>     "Oh, nothing to worry about anymore ! Let's blow all our money on
>>     green bullshit and Free Money ! Get all our stuff from Wonderful
>>     China !".
> 
> Germany increased the self inflicted pain. 'We can't buy cheap gas and oil
> from those evil Russians because we support the most corrupt country on
> the European continent.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEcAIhs2I_4
> 
> There's a lot of history but the 21st century Germany sure as hell isn't
> the 20th century version. If you want to be the manufacturing powerhouse
> of Europe you don't shut off the power for some green fantasy.

   Well, they DID.

   And also kinda handed most manufacturing
   over to China.

   It'll all work out well - right ???

   LOOKS like the AFD will soon take over - for good
   reasons. It's NOT perfect. However it does seem to
   have the More Sane vision.

   Germans VOTED for the 'socialists', LOVED the
   "free money"/"green" propaganda. They got EXACTLY
   what they voted for - DISASTER ... SLAVERY.

   Plato WAS kind of right about "democracy" alas.
   Churchill said it was the WORST possible fix,
   except for all the others. Neither of these views
   are exactly POSITIVE.

   NOW we're seeing it in Real Time.

   BETTER ?

   Sorry, even the AIs have been trained on
   petabytes of Human Stuff - they're just US,
   by alternate means. No Nirvana there.

   Well, we'd better come up with actual "better",
   and Real Soon Now.

   MAY be already Too Late.

   Read up on how to build a dung hut, while the
   net still works. How DO you plant/harvest
   grains, prep and store meats, dig a basic
   water well without power tools ???????

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#87236

On 2026-05-28 16:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/05/2026 12:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>   HAMs ? They pre-date any of the modern politics.
>>
>> Around here we regulate everything.
> 
> That's why we left the EU

And the UK government doesn't regulate left right and center? Common...

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87251

On 5/28/26 12:47, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-05-28 16:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 28/05/2026 12:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>   HAMs ? They pre-date any of the modern politics.
>>>
>>> Around here we regulate everything.
>>
>> That's why we left the EU
> 
> And the UK government doesn't regulate left right and center? Common...

   Heh heh ... the UK stopped being the EUs butt-boy, but
   it didn't really change the evil philosophies that are
   rotting the EU. It's just the Same Old Shit, simply
   under an alternate authority.

   But at least you can still buy a pint, rather than
   a half or full liter :-)

   UK income potential is now FAR below UK national
   spending plans the pols don't DARE curtail. It can't
   work - and isn't. Germany has allowed China to
   fatally undercut its own industries. France - harder
   to tell - I think they're better bullshitters so
   it's hard to get a good picture. The rest, more or
   less on the same downward track ... but UK/DK/FR
   are the biggies.

   So ... the Reds DID win the Cold War. Europe now
   gets to see what being conquered feels like.

   They won't like it.

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#87183

On Wed, 27 May 2026 08:22:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> “Amateur radio stations and equipment may be used to transmit
> communications on behalf of third parties only in the event of an
> emergency or disaster.”

That's an important justification in the US. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_Radio_Emergency_Service

ARES is a formal group but it's assumed hams will pass emergency traffic. 

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#87188

On 2026-05-27 09:23, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2026 08:22:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> “Amateur radio stations and equipment may be used to transmit
>> communications on behalf of third parties only in the event of an
>> emergency or disaster.”
> 
> That's an important justification in the US.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_Radio_Emergency_Service
> 
> ARES is a formal group but it's assumed hams will pass emergency traffic.

And ARRL. Amateur Radio Relay League.

I remember saying that HAMs can not do emergency message relaying in 
emergencies unless they are trained during normal days.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87216

On 5/27/26 05:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-05-27 09:23, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 May 2026 08:22:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> “Amateur radio stations and equipment may be used to transmit
>>> communications on behalf of third parties only in the event of an
>>> emergency or disaster.”
>>
>> That's an important justification in the US.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_Radio_Emergency_Service
>>
>> ARES is a formal group but it's assumed hams will pass emergency traffic.
> 
> And ARRL. Amateur Radio Relay League.

   Have their gigantic thick book on the shelf  :-)

   Every trick from spark-gap to PLLs and digital.

> I remember saying that HAMs can not do emergency message relaying in 
> emergencies unless they are trained during normal days.

   Well, they do anyway - to GOOD effect.

   Have NEVER heard of one being penalized for
   emergency operations. Any agency prick that
   ever tries should be tarred and feathered
   and run out of town.

   We've had "HAMs" since the late 1910s - no
   matter what you called them. As soon as the
   triode was invented .......

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#87228

On 2026-05-28 09:27, c186282 wrote:
> On 5/27/26 05:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-05-27 09:23, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 May 2026 08:22:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> “Amateur radio stations and equipment may be used to transmit
>>>> communications on behalf of third parties only in the event of an
>>>> emergency or disaster.”
>>>
>>> That's an important justification in the US.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_Radio_Emergency_Service
>>>
>>> ARES is a formal group but it's assumed hams will pass emergency 
>>> traffic.
>>
>> And ARRL. Amateur Radio Relay League.
> 
>    Have their gigantic thick book on the shelf  :-)
> 
>    Every trick from spark-gap to PLLs and digital.
> 
>> I remember saying that HAMs can not do emergency message relaying in 
>> emergencies unless they are trained during normal days.
> 
>    Well, they do anyway - to GOOD effect.
> 
>    Have NEVER heard of one being penalized for
>    emergency operations. Any agency prick that
>    ever tries should be tarred and feathered
>    and run out of town.
> 
>    We've had "HAMs" since the late 1910s - no
>    matter what you called them. As soon as the
>    triode was invented .......



The point was than in Spain it is prohibited to relay third party 
messages, unless it is an emergency.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87246

On 5/28/26 07:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-05-28 09:27, c186282 wrote:
>> On 5/27/26 05:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-05-27 09:23, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 27 May 2026 08:22:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> “Amateur radio stations and equipment may be used to transmit
>>>>> communications on behalf of third parties only in the event of an
>>>>> emergency or disaster.”
>>>>
>>>> That's an important justification in the US.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_Radio_Emergency_Service
>>>>
>>>> ARES is a formal group but it's assumed hams will pass emergency 
>>>> traffic.
>>>
>>> And ARRL. Amateur Radio Relay League.
>>
>>    Have their gigantic thick book on the shelf  :-)
>>
>>    Every trick from spark-gap to PLLs and digital.
>>
>>> I remember saying that HAMs can not do emergency message relaying in 
>>> emergencies unless they are trained during normal days.
>>
>>    Well, they do anyway - to GOOD effect.
>>
>>    Have NEVER heard of one being penalized for
>>    emergency operations. Any agency prick that
>>    ever tries should be tarred and feathered
>>    and run out of town.
>>
>>    We've had "HAMs" since the late 1910s - no
>>    matter what you called them. As soon as the
>>    triode was invented .......
> 
> 
> 
> The point was than in Spain it is prohibited to relay third party 
> messages, unless it is an emergency.


   Are you sure Franco is dead ? Somebody had better
   go check  :-)

   Or .. uh oh ... have the AI people created a Digital
   Franco re-incarnation ?  !!!

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#87214

On 5/27/26 03:23, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2026 08:22:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> “Amateur radio stations and equipment may be used to transmit
>> communications on behalf of third parties only in the event of an
>> emergency or disaster.”
> 
> That's an important justification in the US.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_Radio_Emergency_Service
> 
> ARES is a formal group but it's assumed hams will pass emergency traffic.

   And they do ... tirelessly. Good bunch.

   The recent disaster in Jamaica ... only
   the HAMs survived. Even if they had to
   fab a basic long-wire antenna they DID
   keep sending important info in and out of
   the devastation zone.

   Similar disasters in the USA ... esp that
   one nasty hurricane that went all the way
   north into the Carolinas/Virginia/Tenn.
   Again they were the coordination hubs ...
   all the other comms were destroyed.

   StarLink MIGHT supplant them ... though I think
   it will be more 'suppliment'. Century-old comm
   tech is ROBUST, simple and effective when the
   shit hits the proverbial rotary oscillator.

   Ah ... Pi-0/2/W ... finally did get my adapter
   cables and was able to set it up. Note the "big
   drill" technique on the pretty metal case DID
   improve the signal strength by about 10% ...
   easy and worth it (esp with only 2.4ghz). Got
   SSH and VNC installed, so don't need a KB or
   screen anymore.

   Note : invest in a few "step drills".

   Did install an "ArduCam". Half-BROKE the damned
   cable anchor on the PI ... I don't have little
   4'9" Japanese pixie girl fingers. Secured the
   remaining half and then clipped a bit of sheet
   packaging plastic and jammed that into the
   uncompressed half.

   SORT-of works ... all the camera specs come up, but
   so far can't connect well enough for an image. Keeps
   screaming how it's doing a 'reset'. Do have a REAL Pi
   cam on order - but I don't think it does IR. Will keep
   experimenting. USB web cams are much more civilized.
   Don't REALLY need a cam for the thing, but figured
   I'd give it a decent try.

   'Standardization' has never been a good thing with PI.
   Seems every model has totally different connectors.
   Hey ! PI ! GET IT TOGETHER ! Pi-6/7/8 should have
   exactly the same connectors as the Pi5.

   The 0/2/W is decidedly not 'peppy' - though advertised
   as 5 times as peppy as the original version. More or
   less like an old PI-1, maybe PI-2. Even thus they DO
   still have good uses.

   "ArduCams" ... note they make TOO MANY models under
   that name. It's NOT at all apparent what module-driver
   to use and put into the boot config.txt file.

   I *do* want IR sensitive ... don't CARE about the weird
   daytime colors ... kinda cool really  :-) It's amazing
   how much 'the industry' tries to PREVENT you from seeing
   IR ... several m12 cam lenses I've had to smash the
   filter out of, destroyed one ArduCam trying to remove
   the damned filter off the chip sensor. Note 600 series
   HP webcams CAN be adapted for an M12 lens (there are
   little box things you can file a bit and glue down on
   the board, but it destroys autofocus, the original lens
   has to be smashed). Have two such adapted. The later
   models have the filter unremovable ON the chip.

   ANYway ... the usual day-2-day trials - half software,
   half hardware. Keeps life interesting.

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On Tue, 26 May 2026 08:57:08 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I wonder what that SDR is.

Software defined radio.

https://www.rtl-sdr.com/about-rtl-sdr/

I've got a dongle and have used it to get ADS-B aircraft position reports. 
There's a database so you can relate the aircraft ID to Eastern flight 404 
and so forth. It will also pick up commercial FM, GPS, and a lot of other 
stuff.

https://wiki.gnuradio.org/index.php/Main_Page

GNU Radio has a lot of moving parts and isn't the easiest thing to set up 
but it works. Most people use the dongle as a receiver but transmitters 
are also available.

https://greatscottgadgets.com/hackrf/pro/

The original was discontinued and the Pro isn't available yet so they 
might have Osborned themselves.

You can also mess around with the LO on the dongle and might get something 
that sort of works and is completely illegal. I'd rather keep my license 
and stay legit.

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